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Topic: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #224 on: December 01, 2019, 11:46:18 AM »
Tennessee isn't the best 7-5 team in the SEC. Also, we are people that are good at finding the thing that irks us.
Right, Tennessee isn't the best anything.  Maybe the best team wearing daisy-orange, but that's it.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #225 on: December 01, 2019, 11:47:52 AM »
Makes more sense for Utah. They not only have a block U on their helmet, but the school, team name, and state begin with a "U"

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #226 on: December 01, 2019, 11:51:18 AM »
I'd like to see Utah get in.  New blood.  Earned it - didn't just score 60 pts/gm on a quirk, they actually play defense and stuff.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #227 on: December 01, 2019, 06:36:32 PM »
Tennessee isn't the best 7-5 team in the SEC. Also, we are people that are good at finding the thing that irks us.
Heh!  True.
But we are also people who are very good at finding the things that confirm what we already believe.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #228 on: December 01, 2019, 06:59:10 PM »
Tom Osborne became the Huskers' HFC in 1973, the same year that Barry Switzer took the Sooners' helm.

In Osborne's first five seasons, he went 0-5 against Switzer.  He won the '78 game only to have to meet OU again in the Orange Bowl.  The Huskers lost that one and the next two.

So, after nine meetings between the two, Dr. Tom's record stood at 1-8.  From that point forward, he went 4-4 against Switzer, and went on to accomplish other great things as well.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #229 on: December 02, 2019, 07:54:58 AM »
The difference between Harbaugh and Osbourne is that there is no Bob Devaney in Harbaugh's corner.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #230 on: December 02, 2019, 10:45:16 AM »
and the 70's were MUCH different than the 2010's

although Tom has told the story many times.  He was told by a Regent after the 1976 Bluebonnet bowl, that if Osborne has lost that game, he would have been fired.

0-4 vs the Sooners at that time and 9-3-1 in 76 with the bowl victory


OFFICIAL RECAP of the 76 Bluebonnet
Two back-to-back third-quarter touchdowns moved Nebraska from a 24-14 deficit to a 27-24 victory over the Texas Tech Red Raiders in the 1976 Astro-Bluebonnet Bowl.

Those two TDs came on an 18-yard run by Rick Berns and a 23-yard Vince Ferragamo-to-Chuck Malito pass. The touchdown pass was set up by a partially blocked Texas Tech punt by Kent Smith and Ted Harvey.

With Nebraska ahead by 27-24 entering the fourth quarter, the game was far from over. Twice before in '76 - against Missouri and Oklahoma - the Huskers saw fourth-quarter leads vanish. But the third time was the charm for Nebraska.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #231 on: December 04, 2019, 02:03:01 PM »
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #232 on: December 04, 2019, 06:03:25 PM »
I'll ask again next season when Harbaugh is going to feel some heat from folks who count at UM.


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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #233 on: December 04, 2019, 06:45:27 PM »
Michigan with Harbaugh has a much higher floor than Michigan without Harbaugh.

With Harbaugh they are good for 8 to 10 wins per season, even when things seem to be going completely off the rails.

Without Harbaugh they can range anywhere from 3 to 11 wins per season, where they only crack the 8 win barrier periodically; mostly hoovering in that 5 to 7 win range.

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #234 on: December 04, 2019, 07:53:03 PM »
They had a whole, big convo on UM and its issues on the Ocho yesterday.  They were ridiculous, saying they hadn't had an outright NC in 70 years, one guy chimed in with 'they have the recent history of Wake Forest', etc.  It was absurd and obnoxious, etc - garbage TV. 
But a point was made that it's not UM, it's not Harbaugh, but the fans who are the problem.  They have delusional expectations.  I think that's fair.  




Michigan is a name program - a helmet, a blue-blood, all of that.  But it does have a lack of "color TV" elite success, does it not?  Now, I'm not going to sit here and belittle 1997 - that was a legit NC team.  I have no idea why anyone would consider it less-than.  But yeah, since before my dad was born, UM has 1 NC.  That's still paltry for a top-tier helmet program.  
So I looked up records for my lifetime - since 1980, and UM is 9th in winning %.  That's really good.  But there are problems with it, too.  OSU is 1st in that time frame.  Everyone above them and to 2 spots below them have multiple NCs since 1980, except for Georgia.  And if Michigan fans has the same expectations of UGA fans, there wouldn't be a big issue here.  But.....they don't.  Their mindset is - elite helmet - most wins - best fight song...but the peaks are missing.



Michigan and Georgia are similar programs, unless you're a college football historian.  You'd need a leather helmet collection to differentiate the two.  But their fanbases are light-years apart, and yes, even with UGA running Richt off, I stand by it.  

UM fans think they're an (here in 2019) Alabama or a USC or an Oklahoma...and they're really, objectively not.  You could argue whether or not they SHOULD be - but that's irrelevant.  I'm talking about what IS.

Anyway, here's the top 11 since I was born:
1 - OSU
2 - FSU
3 - Nebraska
4 - OU
5 - Miami
6 - Florida
7 - Georgia
8 - Alabama
9 - Michigan
10 - Penn St
11 - Clemson
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #235 on: December 05, 2019, 07:49:25 AM »
I used to know what the term "fan" was short for ...

That makes me crazy.

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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #236 on: December 05, 2019, 07:52:49 AM »

Anyway, here's the top 11 since I was born:
1 - OSU
2 - FSU
3 - Nebraska
4 - OU
5 - Miami
6 - Florida
7 - Georgia
8 - Alabama
9 - Michigan
10 - Penn St
11 - Clemson
Last conference championship:

1. 2018
2. 2014
3. 1999 (B12)
4. 2018
5. 2003 (BE)
6. 2008
7. 2017
8. 2018
9. 2004
10. 2016
11. 2018


I still find it humorous that the ACC still has FSU and Miami in separate divisions, so they can play in the CCG every year.
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Re: And My Name Is Harbaugh, Look On My Works and Despair (SOC 11/30/19)
« Reply #237 on: December 05, 2019, 07:54:18 AM »
Are you saying FSU and Miami are NOT in the CG this year as usual?  Huh.  Is the ACC still playing football?


 

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