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Topic: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center

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utee94

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2025, 08:22:45 AM »
One thing I’d like to ask is what did everybody think of Kamala as a candidate? 

Me personally, I think the democrats fumbled the election horribly. I’m not even sure the people who voted for her liked her much.

Bill Mahr remarked to one of his guests after the election.  They were basically explaining that Kamala didn’t have enough time to get to know her etc and he quipped that they had plenty of time, people just didn’t like her.

I'm not sure this matters much.  A lot of people that voted for Trump don't like him very much, either.

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2025, 08:26:50 AM »
One thing I’d like to ask is what did everybody think of Kamala as a candidate? 

Me personally, I think the democrats fumbled the election horribly. I’m not even sure the people who voted for her liked her much.

Bill Mahr remarked to one of his guests after the election.  They were basically explaining that Kamala didn’t have enough time to get to know her etc and he quipped that they had plenty of time, people just didn’t like her.
I can only speak for me. 

She was the scariest potential person in my adult life.  She is a horrible communicator ( word salads).  Her lack of understanding of even basic concepts was hard to even believe, and she proved it over and over.  And lastly, and probably the biggest thing for me, was her well established positions on certain issues ( the whole bail thing, promising/ encouraging more riots, bold faced lies about Biden’s lucidity- the border failure, the list goes on and on).  I hated being put in that position at voting time.  The other choice was extremely unpleasant as well.  My 2 cents
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2025, 08:44:42 AM »
I can only speak for me. 

She was the scariest potential person in my adult life.  She is a horrible communicator ( word salads).  Her lack of understanding of even basic concepts was hard to even believe, and she proved it over and over.  And lastly, and probably the biggest thing for me, was her well established positions on certain issues ( the whole bail thing, promising/ encouraging more riots, bold faced lies about Biden’s lucidity- the border failure, the list goes on and on).  I hated being put in that position at voting time.  The other choice was extremely unpleasant as well.  My 2 cents
Refresh my memory, what was the bail thing?

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2025, 09:09:50 AM »
Refresh my memory, what was the bail thing?
She backed the MFF and encouraged people to donate to it, after the George Floyd riots.
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2025, 09:24:57 AM »
I'm not sure this matters much.  A lot of people that voted for Trump don't like him very much, either.

It only matters if you also have no plan, or concrete policy positions.

Just…“here I am” won’t cut it. 

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2025, 09:28:54 AM »
It only matters if you also have no plan, or concrete policy positions.

Just…here I am won’t cut it. 
I mean, we're still talking about people who voted for her, that was the premise for the discussion, and I don't think her dislikability mattered to those people any more than Trump's dislikability mattered to people who ultimately voted for him.  Those people were either voting for overall platform, or simply based on identity politics.

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2025, 09:34:05 AM »
I can only speak for me. 

She was the scariest potential person in my adult life.  She is a horrible communicator ( word salads).  Her lack of understanding of even basic concepts was hard to even believe, and she proved it over and over.  And lastly, and probably the biggest thing for me, was her well established positions on certain issues ( the whole bail thing, promising/ encouraging more riots, bold faced lies about Biden’s lucidity- the border failure, the list goes on and on).  I hated being put in that position at voting time.  The other choice was extremely unpleasant as well.  My 2 cents
that would be Hillary.  She was evil.
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2025, 09:45:00 AM »
I mean, we're still talking about people who voted for her, that was the premise for the discussion, and I don't think her dislikability mattered to those people any more than Trump's dislikability mattered to people who ultimately voted for him.  Those people were either voting for overall platform, or simply based on identity politics.


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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2025, 09:46:11 AM »
that would be Hillary.  She was evil.

I would vote for Hilary twice before I would vote for Kamala.  

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2025, 09:52:44 AM »
what was your fear of Kamala?
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2025, 09:54:59 AM »
what was your fear of Kamala?
No border, WWIII.
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2025, 10:05:13 AM »
what was your fear of Kamala?

90 IQ.   A pliable moron.  

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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2025, 10:13:13 AM »
And figurehead.
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Re: Academic discussion (we'll try) of politics shift away from center
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2025, 10:19:02 AM »
I feel Hillary could & would do more harm
but, that's just a guess
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