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Topic: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game

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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #196 on: September 09, 2024, 01:17:58 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 09, 2024, 01:16:20 PM
make the playoff???
for real, idk what he is smoking but this is an 8-4 or 7-5 type team. they got zero shot at the playoff with the QB's they have.
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #197 on: September 09, 2024, 01:18:54 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 09, 2024, 01:15:44 PM
What would you guess their record might be?  If they ran to 11-1 or 10-2, it would do UT a lot of good, if they needed it.

We still don't really know all that much about these teams.  Is Clemson a fairly good team?  Maybe.
I'd say Michigan is a 7-5 or 8-4 team. They literally don't have a QB. 

Luckily for them they don't have very many teams left on the schedule with the OL/QB of Texas. 
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #198 on: September 09, 2024, 01:20:07 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on September 09, 2024, 12:54:28 PM
I won't deny I have never been to a game in Austin, and sadly anywhere else for that matter.  So I'm only going by what I've heard through the years, so it may be baseless. 
I went to one Texas game. Loved it. They played a patsy but the stadium was nice, the people were friendly, and the scenery was terrific if you know what I mean.
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #199 on: September 09, 2024, 01:20:37 PM »
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #200 on: September 09, 2024, 01:20:40 PM »
Ever notice how the term "literally" is literally misused frequently?
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #201 on: September 09, 2024, 01:22:33 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 09, 2024, 01:15:44 PM
What would you guess their record might be?  If they ran to 11-1 or 10-2, it would do UT a lot of good, if they needed it.

We still don't really know all that much about these teams.  Is Clemson a fairly good team?  Maybe.

I don't believe they'll do quite that well.  Currently their toughest games appear to be USC, Washington, Oregon, and Ohio State.  I don't think they're going to lose all of them.  If they split 2-2 then their final record would be 9-3.  That's potentially a playoff team.

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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #202 on: September 09, 2024, 01:24:50 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 09, 2024, 01:20:37 PM
You have a QB coming.

Carter Smith 2025 Dual Threat Quarterback Michigan (rivals.com)

Carter Smith, Bishop Verot , Quarterback (247sports.com)
yeah but you don't want to be starting a true freshman QB. like ever. the one time Michigan started a true freshman QB that was actually any good was Chad Henne but he was also handing the ball off to Mike Hart (schools all-time leading rusher) and also had Jake Long (#1 overall pick) protecting him and was throwing to 3 NFL draft pick WR's in Braylon Edwards, Steve Breaston, and Jason Avant. 

so even if Smith is legit, you ideally don't want him to play until '26. I like the '26 kid from Florida they have committed better and the '24 kid they got Jadyn Davis. The good news is they just need one of them to hit. My question is how do you not have QB prospects like that in your '22 or '23 classes or get a dude in the portal this off-season? how does that happen? god awful planning/execution by the coaches. 
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #203 on: September 09, 2024, 01:26:01 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 09, 2024, 01:20:37 PM
You have a QB coming.

Carter Smith 2025 Dual Threat Quarterback Michigan (rivals.com)

Carter Smith, Bishop Verot , Quarterback (247sports.com)
The knock on the Michigan commit was that he hadn’t yet put together a solid performance against a strong statewide power during his prep career, but he changed that perception Friday night against a team ranked second statewide in the On3 Massey Ratings, only behind IMG Academy.

Smith completed 17-of-35 passes for 195 yards and two touchdowns, adding 151 rushing yards and three touchdowns on the ground. Five of his incompletions were on target, but his receivers were unable to come away with receptions.

“He’s the best player I’ve ever coached,” Rode said. “He’s a leader. He played his guts out. I’m glad he’s ours. I’m glad he’s on our side. I’m glad I don’t have to defend against him. We do enough of that in practice and he makes it difficult on the defense. He’s fun to watch.

You get into these games and you’re so locked in. Every so often I try and take a step back and just watch him play. Guys like him and quarterbacks like him don’t come around very often. He’s going to Michigan for a reason. It’s why he has the Lee County touchdown record that may never be broken.
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #204 on: September 09, 2024, 01:27:50 PM »
17-of-35 passes for 195 yards???
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #205 on: September 09, 2024, 01:30:51 PM »
hey no question the QB recruiting has gotten a lot better. 2024, 2025, and 2026 all landed top 100 players overall in the nation at QB. And you just need one of them to hit and you're set. Which is why you should be landing top flight QB's EVERY class. Like...Texas or Alabama or Ohio State does. Just get a 5* or top 100 overall kid every single class and eventually one of them will hit.

But that doesn't help THIS SEASON. How did they not land anyone in 2022 or 2023 or hit the portal in the off-season to bring in a Cam Ward is beyond me. Bad decision/planning/roster management by the coaches.
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #206 on: September 09, 2024, 01:35:57 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 09, 2024, 12:53:02 PM
I agree with keeping Orji off the field if he can't consistently complete routine open passes.  If he could, I'm sure he'd be starting due to his running ability.  If Orji can't pass the ball after a couple years in the system, it ain't happening and they're best off going with Warren.  Did you notice that Warren had the highest PFF grade for the team?
Best off with a guy that already has 3 picks and doesn't look the part? Again, How can they not at least give Orji some PT later in the Texas game to at least see what he looks like in a game circumstance rather than a practice situation. 

And if he truly can't pass the ball and they're still throwing him out there for multiple plays a game knowing he can only run, then they're dumber than I thought because you're just giving the defense your play.

Warren's PFF grade means nothing to me. Most of his stats are from points in the game where it wasn't relevant. First half - 8/11 for 49 yards and an INT in the first half. Can't read a defense.. Stares down 1 receiver the entire time. If he's the option, get ready for 4-5 losses
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #207 on: September 09, 2024, 01:36:41 PM »
I did not miss the rushing but, thought you were looking for an NFL talent QB

so 5 drops, let's say 4 are caught....... 21 of 35 is a bit better than 50%
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #208 on: September 09, 2024, 01:40:30 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 09, 2024, 01:36:41 PM
I did not miss the rushing but, thought you were looking for an NFL talent QB

so 5 drops, let's say 4 are caught....... 21 of 35 is a bit better than 50%
Venice is one of the best teams in Florida. Would be the best team in any other state not named Texas.
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Re: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game
« Reply #209 on: September 09, 2024, 01:46:03 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on September 09, 2024, 01:35:57 PM
Best off with a guy that already has 3 picks and doesn't look the part? Again, How can they not at least give Orji some PT later in the Texas game to at least see what he looks like in a game circumstance rather than a practice situation.

And if he truly can't pass the ball and they're still throwing him out there for multiple plays a game knowing he can only run, then they're dumber than I thought because you're just giving the defense your play.

Warren's PFF grade means nothing to me. Most of his stats are from points in the game where it wasn't relevant. First half - 8/11 for 49 yards and an INT in the first half. Can't read a defense.. Stares down 1 receiver the entire time. If he's the option, get ready for 4-5 losses
agree 100%.

And I'll add a situation with Orji infuriated me early on the game when Michigan was establishing some success driving and potentially could've taken some momentum back and tied the game 7-7, believe it was a 3rd and 2 in the red zone and Orji ran out and Sark called a time out because it caught him off guard. Moore sends Orji right back out in the SAME EXACT formation to run the SAME EXACT play that Sark called a t.o. to get ready for and it gets stuffed and goes nowhere and they have to kick a FG. Little things like that- really chap my ass.  That is just fucking dumb coaching by Moore. Moore and staff got out-coached and out-classed by Sark and staff.

If you aren't going to give Orji entire series and large chunks of playing time and actually let him throw then what is the point? Just trotting him out there for 1 play here or 1 play there to run the football is going to get stuffed more than it's not because the defense is just going to know what's coming every single time you run that gimmick bullshit. 

Oh and Davis Warren sucks. 
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