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Topic: #4 Texas (2-0) at #9 Michigan (1-1) Post Game

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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2024, 12:34:46 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 09:56:48 AM
As I've stated, I think it's going to be a close game.  Michigan's defense is going to keep them in it and Texas' defense is good but inconsistent.  If I were the Wolverines I'd just run straight at Texas and make the Horns stop it.
that and their defense making the game ugly for Texas' offense is the only chance they have sprinkled in with excellent special teams play by Michigan. 

don't think the Michigan OL will be up to the task in week 2. and for them to run wild on Texas I think they'd need to have Alex Orji getting more than 5 or 6 snaps total like he did vs Fresno State. They'd need to really play him and run him at least 15 times and read option/RPO the shit out of Texas. Not sure they are going to play him all that much. 
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2024, 12:38:21 PM »
I love it.  Horns-down is still a sign of respect for Texas.  It means we're in your head living rent-free.

Bring it on! :)
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2024, 12:43:00 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 03, 2024, 12:34:46 PM
that and their defense making the game ugly for Texas' offense is the only chance they have sprinkled in with excellent special teams play by Michigan.

don't think the Michigan OL will be up to the task in week 2. and for them to run wild on Texas I think they'd need to have Alex Orji getting more than 5 or 6 snaps total like he did vs Fresno State. They'd need to really play him and run him at least 15 times and read option/RPO the shit out of Texas. Not sure they are going to play him all that much.
That's just it-- I think Michigan is going to be successful enough at making it ugly, to stay in the game.  Ultimately I think Texas should win, but it's going to be close and is one of those games that could go either way.

I do like that the Horns' QB and OL already have experience going on the road playing a big-time Top 10 team in their own home in a hostile environment, and coming away with a win.  That game in Tuscaloosa last year should provide some experience and confidence, which might end up being the difference in the game.
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2024, 12:52:53 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 03, 2024, 12:34:46 PM
that and their defense making the game ugly for Texas' offense is the only chance they have sprinkled in with excellent special teams play by Michigan.

don't think the Michigan OL will be up to the task in week 2. and for them to run wild on Texas I think they'd need to have Alex Orji getting more than 5 or 6 snaps total like he did vs Fresno State. They'd need to really play him and run him at least 15 times and read option/RPO the shit out of Texas. Not sure they are going to play him all that much.
My only hope is that Michigan was playing possum in week one, although that doesn't explain the very poor accuracy at the qb position.  I personally think this is a 14-17 point Texas victory, unless Michigan D creates some big turnovers. Texas looks very polished. Wolverines offensively look the opposite. 
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2024, 01:01:43 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 12:38:21 PM
I love it.  Horns-down is still a sign of respect for Texas.  It means we're in your head living rent-free.

Bring it on! :)

Things that bad down their in the infernal regions that you'd wanna live in a head rent free or otherwise?
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2024, 01:06:21 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on September 03, 2024, 01:01:43 PM
Things that bad down their in the infernal regions that you'd wanna live in a head rent free or otherwise?
Depends on how well the A/C works...
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2024, 01:29:59 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 12:38:21 PM
I love it.  Horns-down is still a sign of respect for Texas.  It means we're in your head living rent-free.

Bring it on! :)

Ya, been worried about this game for nearly 9 months.  But in the greater scheme of things its not as important as the conference games.  After Sunday night playing USC in two and a half weeks is occupying more space in my head.
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2024, 01:34:20 PM »
Quote from: Temp430 on September 03, 2024, 01:29:59 PM
Ya, been worried about this game for nearly 9 months.  But in the greater scheme of things its not as important as the conference games.  After Sunday night playing USC in two and a half weeks is occupying more space in my head.
I was actually replying to a twitter meme that Mdot posted and then deleted.

I don't really think too many Michigan fans are overly concerned with Texas specifically.  It's a big game for both teams, it should be a lot of fun for the fans.  As you say, it's irrelevant with respect to winning your conference championship.  
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2024, 01:37:09 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 01:34:20 PM
I was actually replying to a twitter meme that Mdot posted and then deleted.

I don't really think too many Michigan fans are overly concerned with Texas specifically.  It's a big game for both teams, it should be a lot of fun for the fans.  As you say, it's irrelevant with respect to winning your conference championship. 
But...we'd still like to beat your burnt orange ass.
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2024, 01:55:34 PM »
every game is very important if the goal is the playoff

true, you don't have to be undefeated or even one loss to get in but, seeding is important and a 3rd loss could keep you out.

and non-con games are important to the committee at the end of the season - relative strength of conferences

between the SEC and the B1G - one conference might get 4 teams in, the other might only get 3 teams
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2024, 02:03:40 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 03, 2024, 01:55:34 PM
every game is very important if the goal is the playoff

true, you don't have to be undefeated or even one loss to get in but, seeding is important and a 3rd loss could keep you out.

and non-con games are important to the committee at the end of the season - relative strength of conferences

between the SEC and the B1G - one conference might get 4 teams in, the other might only get 3 teams
Sure but the point is, with 1 loss to another top team, your own top team isn't completely out of the national championship hunt.  Not even close.

And if it's a non-conference loss, your chances at winning your conferences aren't affected at all.

But of course I want Texas to whip the snot out of Michigan.  Obviously.  I heard from fans that attended the '05 Rose Bowl that the Michigan fans out-arroganced the Texas fans, and I find that to be completely unacceptable.
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2024, 02:22:17 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 02:03:40 PM
Sure but the point is, with 1 loss to another top team, your own top team isn't completely out of the national championship hunt.  Not even close.

And it it's a non-conference loss, your chances at winning your conferences aren't affected at all.

But of course I want Texas to whip the snot out of Michigan.  Obviously.  I heard from fans that attended the '05 Rose Bowl that the Michigan fans out-arroganced the Texas fans, and I find that to be completely unacceptable.
that was one of the greatest games I've ever seen. Michigan was up 31-21 in the 4th QTR and then Vince Young just went fucking Superman on Michigan's D in that 4th QTR and they couldn't stop him for shit and Texas wins on a last second FG by 1 point with no time left on the clock. And then the very next year Vince Young did it again for the Natty vs USC. Man what an unbelievable player he was. 
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2024, 02:42:18 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 12:43:00 PM
That's just it-- I think Michigan is going to be successful enough at making it ugly, to stay in the game.  Ultimately I think Texas should win, but it's going to be close and is one of those games that could go either way.

I do like that the Horns' QB and OL already have experience going on the road playing a big-time Top 10 team in their own home in a hostile environment, and coming away with a win.  That game in Tuscaloosa last year should provide some experience and confidence, which might end up being the difference in the game.
that's a huge deal that can't be overlooked. the QB/OL are experienced, veteran, excellent. that kind of atmosphere isn't going to rattle them at all- they went into the lions den last year vs Bama and knocked them out. 

Michigan's defense needs to play it's A+ game if they want to have a shot. Derrick Moore, Josaiah Stewart, Jaishawn Barhman, Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, and Will Johnson all have to come to play. 
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Re: #4 Texas (1-0) at #9 Michigan (1-0) Game Week
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2024, 02:43:20 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on September 03, 2024, 02:03:40 PM
Sure but the point is, with 1 loss to another top team, your own top team isn't completely out of the national championship hunt.  Not even close.

And if it's a non-conference loss, your chances at winning your conferences aren't affected at all.

But of course I want Texas to whip the snot out of Michigan.  Obviously.  I heard from fans that attended the '05 Rose Bowl that the Michigan fans out-arroganced the Texas fans, and I find that to be completely unacceptable.
On the arrogance front, only Notre Dame fans are in the same area as Michigan.

On the impact of the game . . .
It definitely isn't what it would have been just one year ago in the 4-team CFP and it isn't even close to what it would have been prior to that.

Side note, slightly off topic:
In years past part of me would have wanted Michigan to lose just because they are Michigan but my more practical/pragmatic side would have wanted Michigan to win to help clear a path for Ohio State to the NC. I think that those second-order considerations are more-or-less irrelevant now. Ie, I think that fans of tOSU and Oklahoma can freely cheer for their rival to lose without any real concern that their rivals winning would actually be better for their own team.

Back to the game's impact:
Clearly it has no impact on the league title races and a loss here wouldn't eliminate either team from the at-large race. In this new era I think we need to think more in terms of relative chances and the path being narrowed.

For the winner:
Winning this will provide an immediate boost in the rankings. It also helps with seeding. Further, it provides some safety net in the event of future losses. The winner here is probably in with three losses at 9-3 or 10-3.

For the loser:
The loss herevis far from fatal but it narrowes the path substantially. The loser probably needs to either win the rest of their regular season games or win their CCG.
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