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Topic: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread

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Mdot21

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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #322 on: Today at 10:00:01 AM »
very curious to me how guys like Fickell & Frost can be so good one place and so F'ing bad at another place
there are levels to this ish. some guys are cut out for small ball. some aren't cut out for the pressure of helming a big dawg in a P4. 

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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #323 on: Today at 10:00:51 AM »
King Barry ain't happy with Wisconsin fans...


https://twitter.com/ESPNMadison/status/1970272993835151553

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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #324 on: Today at 10:04:46 AM »
B1G > XII and >>> AAC.

Before THIS season, Fickell reminded media (and fans and players) that Wisconsin wasn't in the B1G West anymore.

All that happened in 2024 was this:



Come again, clown?
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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #325 on: Today at 12:02:41 PM »
Wisconsin doing throwbacks for the Miami (OH) game in a week.

They are throwing back to 1988 - the worst time in history to be a Wisconsin fan.

WTF?


https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/1958514427705143705
Yikes. This isn't feeling very funny anymore.

And some guy said this a while back:

Listened to Fickell’s press conference from Monday…the only tangible piece of news is the lack of team captains. They have a large group that he’s choosing from, which means they don’t have a small group of obvious leaders. I find that worrisome.

And another guy said this:

The first two games will be telling. If they struggle against Miami (OH) and MTSU, we'll know we can do other things on Saturday this season.

So Barry doesn't like the fans booing. On the one hand, I probably wouldn't do it. On the other, they bought tickets to those football games expecting to see a quality product. That is part of the deal. And McIntosh and Fickell aren't delivering on that. Does it suck for the players? You betcha. You know what else sucks? Paying to watch your tribe--a proud tribe--crumble into a laughing stock, and knowing that change needs to come from the top, but the leaders aren't making those changes. 

So yeah, the booing sucks, but it's the result of a team that is an embarrassment. Does that hurt the players' feelings? Yup. So does getting smoked at home by Maryland. It's up to the leaders to save this thing, and one way to save the players is to show they haven't been abandoned to their fate. They need something to hang onto and Fickell said in his press conference that he doesn't know what that is. Ok, leader, you don't know how to rally the troops, then we need a leader that does. McIntosh firing Fickell would show the players that he knows they aren't getting the leadership they deserve. That's something to rally around.

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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #327 on: Today at 12:28:37 PM »
good luck
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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #328 on: Today at 03:36:42 PM »
So Barry doesn't like the fans booing.

So yeah, the booing sucks, but it's the result of a team that is an embarrassment. Does that hurt the players' feelings? Yup. So does getting smoked at home by Maryland. It's up to the leaders to save this thing, and one way to save the players is to show they haven't been abandoned to their fate. They need something to hang onto and Fickell said in his press conference that he doesn't know what that is. Ok, leader, you don't know how to rally the troops, then we need a leader that does. McIntosh firing Fickell would show the players that he knows they aren't getting the leadership they deserve. That's something to rally around.
IMHO, fans booing are not really booing the players. They're booing the collective establishment, and it's usually booing the failure of the AD and coaching staff to put a better product on the field. Especially when they were chanting to fire Fickell. They want the best for the players, and realize the players are just trying to do their best. It's the leadership that is the real target of the boos. 

It's like being anti-war but supporting the troops. I can support the troops even if I think the dumbasses in DC are idiots for putting them in harm's way and don't even think the mission is worthwhile. When someone signs 4 years of their life away to put on a military uniform, they don't get to pick and choose where they go. That's why they call them "orders", not "suggestions". So I can support the actual guys on the ground even if I don't think they should be doing what they're asked to do.

So it's not incongruous to support the troops/players while calling for the politicians/coaches' heads. 

(Not intending to be political, but I think the analogy works.)

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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #329 on: Today at 03:42:21 PM »
Exactly.

Barry is out of line with his comments.
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Re: 2025 Wisconsin Season Thread
« Reply #330 on: Today at 03:44:59 PM »
IMHO, fans booing are not really booing the players. They're booing the collective establishment, and it's usually booing the failure of the AD and coaching staff to put a better product on the field. Especially when they were chanting to fire Fickell. They want the best for the players, and realize the players are just trying to do their best. It's the leadership that is the real target of the boos.

It's like being anti-war but supporting the troops. I can support the troops even if I think the dumbasses in DC are idiots for putting them in harm's way and don't even think the mission is worthwhile. When someone signs 4 years of their life away to put on a military uniform, they don't get to pick and choose where they go. That's why they call them "orders", not "suggestions". So I can support the actual guys on the ground even if I don't think they should be doing what they're asked to do.

So it's not incongruous to support the troops/players while calling for the politicians/coaches' heads.

(Not intending to be political, but I think the analogy works.)
don't think you are political with this- and the analogy is spot on imo.

those fans were booing the leadership and calling for said leadership to hit the road jack and don't look back, not the players. 

 

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