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betarhoalphadelta

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2025 NFL Thread
« on: March 13, 2025, 12:03:53 PM »


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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2025, 12:05:00 PM »
It's 2025 and the Giants still suck, probably even worse than the Cowboys.


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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2025, 12:34:01 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2025, 08:34:49 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2025, 10:27:36 AM »
It's 2025 and the Giants still suck, probably even worse than the Cowboys.
 
Edit – from the previous thread: Oh yeah, sign me up for some of that new ownership in Dallas too, please!

New ownership might be necessary if you’re the Cowboys, Giants, or Jets, but owners aren’t the ultimate on-field fix for an organization. The benefits of top Head Coaching, Quarterbacking, and GM-ing go much further in the W/L column. I think everybody agrees, however, maybe we won’t agree as to why.

When we say good owners, the value that I believe goes most unrecognized is knowing what you do and don’t have in your organization. Robert Kraft realized what he had with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and stayed out of the way.

Conversely, an owner that recognizes what the organization lacks is best to hire key individuals limited to the GM and HC that see the organization through; this is the start of good ownership. I’ve heard the “new” Panthers owner (since 2018), David Tepper, praised in his earlier ownership years for his aggressive involvement in coaching hires and drafting players. But just about everything David Tepper has forced with football operations has been a disaster. From draft busts (Bryce Young) and rotten coaching hires (Matt Rhule) to unforgiveable trades (Christian McCaffrey).

The best owners realize the coaches know more about Xs & Os, the GM is better at scouting talent, the team doctors are to be trusted with the injury reports, and that they’re best to set up those they recognize with those top skill sets for success.

I’ve seen it throughout my working years where those at or near the top rose to holding high levels due to their success at a single skill set. Yet this narrow path of success has eased them into believing success at one thing translates to the same success at anything else they step foot in. Has anybody bothered telling David Tepper that his successes with Wealth Management don’t equally carry over to the NFL Draft?

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Re: 2025 NFL Thread
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2025, 10:38:39 AM »
New ownership might be necessary if you’re the Cowboys, Giants, Jets or Browns but owners aren’t the ultimate on-field fix for an organization. The benefits of top Head 
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2025, 12:06:32 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2025, 12:40:07 PM »
The NFL has have-nots, just like college football does.  I'm not sure why, but the Jets seem to get a pass when the Browns don't.  What have the Jets done since SB III?  
Nothing.  No SB appearances.  22 years since their last DIVISION title (a 9-7 season, amazingly).
Is it because they're NY?  Pffft.

But the Jets, Browns, Cardinals, Bengals, Saints, and Lions are 2nd-class citizens.  The Lions have shown life recently, which is unprecedented.  But also the Bears and all the newer teams, like the Jags, Panthers, along with the Chargers, just don't matter.  They battle for draft slots from week 1.

The Bears are basically the Minnesota Golden Gophers....a one-time helmet that is irrelevant now.  The Jets are...Ole Miss.  The Browns are Vanderbilt.  Is there a difference between them?  Sure.  But neither is a "have" franchise.  

I honestly view the Jets below the Browns, Cardinals, and Chargers.  They're 2nd-class citizens in their own home stadium, and always have been.  They once had FOUR 1st round draft picks, none of which was a bad pick, and it still didn't pay off.  You could put an all-start team in Jets uniforms, and they'd go 8-8 (or 9-8 or whatever).  It's a broken franchise.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2025, 12:42:17 PM »
Bears matriarch just died. Hopefully things will change.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2025, 01:08:08 PM »
Jets and Bears large markets = $$$ = potential

The Jets are in the AFC East - easier path since the Patriots suck
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2025, 09:33:01 PM »
Jets and Bears large markets = $$$ = potential

The Jets are in the AFC East - easier path since the Patriots suck
How can the argument for market size be made for success in the NFL??????  Green Bay, Pittsburgh, KC are in the top 4 franchises the past 30 years (outside of NE), while the Giants, Jets, and Rams are in the bottom half of the league. 
All available evidence goes against market size mattering.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2025, 10:45:49 AM »
potential
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2025, 10:57:42 AM »
  The Browns are Vanderbilt.
Not really,off the field Vanderbilt is stocked with astute,discerning,gifted Staff and Students. And Cleveland's got Jimmy Haslem
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