2025 MSU Season Thread

[SuperMario]

Yeah only Michigan and Auburn. Nothing with USC paying players and families. Forget about OsU paying players and trying to retell the story only about gold pants and tattoos. DiGeronimo had nothing to do with paying kids at all. Only two programs have ever crossed the line. Tattoos and good pants like like saying Bernie Madoff only made bad investments. Scream loudest and it must be true.

[Mdot21]

hey I for one applaud Tugger. like the great Bear Bryant once said....

if ya ain't cheating ya ain't tryin'

[medinabuckeye1]

Yeah only Michigan and Auburn. Nothing with USC paying players and families. Forget about OsU paying players and trying to retell the story only about gold pants and tattoos. DiGeronimo had nothing to do with paying kids at all. Only two programs have ever crossed the line. Tattoos and good pants like like saying Bernie Madoff only made bad investments. Scream loudest and it must be true.

The whataboutism is strong with this one but it falls apart upon even a cursory glance. You were on the highest of high horses over tatgate. What our coach did was wrong and The Ohio State University had the integrity to fire a National Championship winning coach for it. There was contrition and acknowledgement of wrongdoing.

The problem with Michigan is that there is no institutional integrity and no contrition from the fans, instead we get this:

hey I for one applaud Tugger. like the great Bear Bryant once said....

if ya ain't cheating ya ain't tryin'

That is the difference. I have to applaud @Mdot21 because at least he is honest enough to admit it. The rest of you can't seem to acknowledge that Stallions was far worse than everything involved in tatgate. It is literally the worst cheating scandal in the modern history of college football and the response from the institution and the fanbase makes it worse.

[SuperMario]

I wasn’t on a high horse. I was appalled at the amount of noses in the air, smug responses of people trying to claim it was as simple as gold pants and tattoos when there was layers and layers deeper to the story. Don’t worry, it’s whataboutism. It’s about OSU and their fans having so much integrity and Michigan and all their fans are low character dirtbags supporting a terrible program with no moral code so their fans must have one either. 

And it all goes back to a simple fact. A university and football program don’t define a fans character and those that claim it does have a flaw in theirs.

[medinabuckeye1]

It’s about OSU and their fans having so much integrity and Michigan and all their fans are low character dirtbags supporting a terrible program with no moral code so their fans must have one either.

Was it that hard to admit this?

[FearlessF]

IMHO, conferences policing their own is never going to be a viable option because they compete with each other and the minute the SEC drops a punishment that is (and it will be) perceived as lenient on a cheater school like Auburn, the B1G will be under immense pressure to be similarly lenient with their own cheater school (Michigan).  Conferences policing their own will inevitably become a race to be the most lenient.  It isn't a viable option. 

fine, that's my point.  The Big Ten Conference is a scumbag -  a money grubbing scumbag
same as the old SWC, the Big 8, the Big 12, the SEC and all the rest.

the big TV money wiped out integrity