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Topic: Did the Committee get it right, if not, how so?

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utee94

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Re: Did the Committee get it right, if not, how so?
« Reply #84 on: December 10, 2025, 04:18:42 PM »
it's possible we could go undefeated next yr. i mean i doubt it, but it's possible.

a lot of things are possible. the committee has told us what they reward. schedule the terps.

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« Reply #85 on: December 10, 2025, 04:19:10 PM »
Eh, I doubt it.  If Texas had played Akron instead of Ohio State, the Horns would have gotten in this year, with wins over 2 CFP top 10 teams and 3 CFP top 14 teams total. 

But in general, yeah, the new scheduling philosophy will  most likely be to schedule low-level P4 teams as the "marquee" opponent, then a couple of bodybag/cupcake/scrubs.  Then the 9-game SEC schedule. In most years Texas with only 2 losses against that schedule is going to get in.
There’s a lot of faith that a committee wouldn’t say “you didn’t try at all, you’re getting dinged.” I’m guessing it would at least be a thing. 

Now the alternative is to just go ahead and schedule someone reasonable (call TCU?), and then you get your win you can crow about. 

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« Reply #86 on: December 10, 2025, 04:22:59 PM »
Sure but that's nothing more than the risk/reward calculation.  Right now we know that Texas scheduled a loss that kept them out of the playoff.  That's already happened.  So going forward, it will no longer happen.  Remove the enormous, known, and already detrimental risk, and also the slight chance of being rewarded.

And we all know you're being nothing more than an argumentative pot-stirrer right now because you've stated a million times "never schedule a loss."  Going forward I expect Texas to follow that prescribed course of action.

I mean, Miami and Oklahoma are probably in because of good non-conference opponents. 

Yeah, you have to actually beat the the other team,  but if you have a Texas playoff team, most years, you win games against all but like 5-7 other teams. It’s regrettable yall got one of those teams (and took a bad loss along the way)

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« Reply #87 on: December 10, 2025, 04:25:43 PM »
There’s a lot of faith that a committee wouldn’t say “you didn’t try at all, you’re getting dinged.” I’m guessing it would at least be a thing.
I'm guessing it wouldn't.  The OOC schedules for Indiana and Ole Miss weren't held against them.

I mean, Miami and Oklahoma are probably in because of good non-conference opponents.

Yeah, you have to actually beat the the other team,  but if you have a Texas playoff team, most years, you win games against all but like 5-7 other teams. It’s regrettable yall got one of those teams (and took a bad loss along the way)
Scheduling a loss is what cost Texas.  Sounds like it's not going to happen again.  For better or for worse.

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« Reply #88 on: December 10, 2025, 04:32:31 PM »
Oh and just for the record, I'm one of the two "the committee got it right" votes because although they could have made other choices, the choices they made, were no better nor worse than the various alternatives, in my opinion.

I would have liked to see Texas make it in, but the 3 losses were always going to be a major problem.  And every other team that was on the bubble and didn't get in, had plenty of warts as well.


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« Reply #89 on: December 10, 2025, 04:33:03 PM »
I'll just say... it's highly unlikely.  It's possible but so unrealistic it's not worthy of examination.  If you'd like to keep discussing it though, feel free, Mr. Never Schedule A Loss.
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« Reply #90 on: December 10, 2025, 04:35:09 PM »
That was Hayden Fry's line
that's where Wild Bill Snyder learned it
and where I stole it
Snyder scheduled Oregon OOC. 


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« Reply #91 on: December 10, 2025, 04:35:36 PM »
I'm guessing it wouldn't.  The OOC schedules for Indiana and Ole Miss weren't held against them.
That is all part of the risk/reward.  It didn't get held against IU because they went undefeated but I DO think that Indiana's weak (and it was pathetic) OOC would hurt them if they had gone 11-1 and it DEFINITELY would have hurt them if they had gone 10-2.  

Before the CCG this year, Indiana played only two teams that ended up ranked (#5 Oregon, #23 Iowa).  If they had lost that game they would have missed the B1GCG and finished 11-1/8-1.  Would the committee have excluded them?  I don't know but it is certainly possible.  11-1 is great but if your best win is is against an 8-4 team I'd have a hard time putting you in.  

Ole Miss is a slightly different situation.  They had one ranked win in conference and an OOC game against a playoff team.  Yeah, that playoff team was Tulane and everybody knows they don't really belong but that still gave them two wins over ranked opponents and no bad losses.  

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« Reply #92 on: December 10, 2025, 04:37:41 PM »
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« Reply #93 on: December 10, 2025, 04:38:23 PM »
I'm guessing it wouldn't.  The OOC schedules for Indiana and Ole Miss weren't held against them.
Scheduling a loss is what cost Texas.  Sounds like it's not going to happen again.  For better or for worse.

Those teams lost one game combined. Different kettle of fish.

What cost Texas was losing games. They put themselves in better position to do that with one scheduling choice, but there are plenty of good alternatives beyond begging for Akron.

Shoot, a 10-2 SEC team that actually had a bad P5 win got left out this year. 

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« Reply #94 on: December 10, 2025, 04:41:47 PM »
When?
My bad, it was a fiesta bowl. the K-State end zone threw me off. 

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« Reply #95 on: December 10, 2025, 04:42:48 PM »
My bad, it was a fiesta bowl. the K-State end zone threw me off.
That's what I thought.
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« Reply #96 on: December 10, 2025, 04:45:29 PM »
Those teams lost one game combined. Different kettle of fish.

What cost Texas was losing games. They put themselves in better position to do that with one scheduling choice, but there are plenty of good alternatives beyond begging for Akron.

Shoot, a 10-2 SEC team that actually had a bad P5 win got left out this year.
For the record, I'm not "begging for Akron."  I'm not in favor of any changes to scheduling practices at all, I'm just noting that replacing Ohio State with a highy unpalatable alternative, still gets Texas into the CFP this year.  Which means that scheduling a top marquee team like Ohio State, made the difference this year.

Regardless, if Texas does go forward with changing the scheduling practices as a result of this, it'll still have to be a P4 team, it wouldn't be Akron or the like.

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« Reply #97 on: December 10, 2025, 04:47:04 PM »
It's amazing that the same announcer called both instances of the 1 point safety. 


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