2025-2026 B1G Basketball Thread

[bayareabadger]

Zona was really good? 
who did they beat outside the Big 12 & the dance?

They ended the regular season top-3 in a bunch of resume metrics and predictives. They were real good.

The issue was they were just such a power inside team and didn't shoot that much. And if they ran into a team that could slow their burley guys inside, they were short a counterpunch. 

[medinabuckeye1]

This seems like a pretty emotional argument. It's the NIT, man. No one takes NIT results seriously.

This has gotta be the weirdest thing to cape for. Like, cape for a smaller field, but thirsting for the honor of the 11th-place team in the SEC, lord how far we've done fallen.

It isn't emotional at all it is all about the data.  Playing good teams is tough.  That is reality.  Pretending that clubbing baby seals proves something is emotional.  

I don't like Auburn and I get the whole 11th place SEC team thing.  My objection is the double standard.  If Ohio State's best win was a 2 point home win over Akron the Buckeyes would be 7-25 and nobody would ask why they missed the NCAAT.  

How about we select based on accomplishments, would that be ok?  

[medinabuckeye1]

Since we’re still discussing 17-16 Auburn missing the Tournament, the main point you’ve driven for nearly a month now is that the Committee neglected Strength of Schedules. That’s not at all the case. The committee heavily weighed SoS, but it wasn’t the sole selection factor; your emphasis on SoS angles for SoS to be the ONLY factor that should be considered. If that’s the case, there’s no point in a committee. Just let computers select and seed the teams based on a running SoS calculation.

No, SoS shouldn't be the only factor and I never said that it should.  For example, according to KenPom Mississippi State had the #28 SoS and went below .500 against it.  They ranked #102 in KenPom's rankings and I don't think anybody would argue for their inclusion in the field.  

That said, it should be obvious to everyone that Mississippi State's 13 wins against the #28 SoS is more impressive than Morgan State's 14 wins against the #363 SoS.  

[medinabuckeye1]

They ended the regular season top-3 in a bunch of resume metrics and predictives. They were real good.

The issue was they were just such a power inside team and didn't shoot that much. And if they ran into a team that could slow their burley guys inside, they were short a counterpunch.

In a large tournament being a one trick pony is almost never going to be successful because you will inevitably run into a team that has an answer for your one trick.  

[medinabuckeye1]

FWIW:

Michigan is the 43rd #1 seed to make it to the National Championship Game since the 85 expansion.  

UCONN is the 13th #2 seed to make it.  

The previous 40 NCs were won by:

• 26 #1 seeds
• 5 #2 seeds
• 4 #3 seeds
• 2 #4 seeds
• 1 #6 seed
• 1 #7 seed
• 1 #8 seed

So we will either see our 27th #1 seed or our 6th #2 seed win it tonight.  

[bayareabadger]

It isn't emotional at all it is all about the data.  Playing good teams is tough.  That is reality.  Pretending that clubbing baby seals proves something is emotional. 

I don't like Auburn and I get the whole 11th place SEC team thing.  My objection is the double standard.  If Ohio State's best win was a 2 point home win over Akron the Buckeyes would be 7-25 and nobody would ask why they missed the NCAAT. 

How about we select based on accomplishments, would that be ok? 

Tell me about the seal data. How old are these seals? What kind of clubs are they using?

we’re talking about data, right? Not one’s particular burning disdains.

(there’s a whole bunch of ways to present this in a context that makes sense and is very agreeable, and almost none of them involve White knighting for Auburn. Puffing up the tigers just weakens your point)

[bayareabadger]

In a large tournament being a one trick pony is almost never going to be successful because you will inevitably run into a team that has an answer for your one trick. 

Sometimes you might not, but overpowering people with only one guy taller than 6-foot-8 might be an issue. 

Though Michigan is historically large. Perhaps in another year, the tricks are enough.