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Topic: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread

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SuperMario

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #252 on: August 06, 2024, 02:09:16 PM »

As I see it, @Honestbuckeye is the tOSU pessimist, @MrNubbz is the tOSU optimist, and I'm in the middle.  On the three factors listed:

lol... that's a perfect summation of the three buckeyes listed. 

From the list, I think #2 is the most glaring. I know OSU has other WR talent and they have a loaded roster, but you can't simply replace the most talented receiver of the last decade. I'm also not convinced Ryan Day can win when it matters

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #253 on: August 06, 2024, 05:40:09 PM »
lol... that's a perfect summation of the three buckeyes listed.

From the list, I think #2 is the most glaring. I know OSU has other WR talent and they have a loaded roster, but you can't simply replace the most talented receiver of the last decade. I'm also not convinced Ryan Day can win when it matters
kind of agree. 

Emeka Egbuka has been a great #2 WR. We still don't know if he's truly a #1 imo. I tend to think....not. I think he's obviously really good and a future NFL player- but I don't see top 15 1st round talent like a Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, JSN, or Marv level player when I look at him. Maybe he can get there this season with more opportunities- but he's going into his SR year and by then every one of those guys was already a proven #1 high level draft pick. The young guys in the OSU stable are highly rated and very talented but they still have got to prove it on the field. And odds are even if they are all that and a bag of chips- they likely will not be Marv this year and the odds they are ever that good ain't good. Marvin Harrison Jr is the best college receiver we have seen in a very long time. He's Larry Fitzgerald, Charles Rogers, Calvin Johnson level talent imo. He's a prototype, exactly how you'd build a WR in a lab and he's going to take over the NFL as a rookie.

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #254 on: August 06, 2024, 07:16:20 PM »
well now that Jeem is gone Pete Finebaum over at ESPN has found his new punching bag: Ryan Day, and I'm all here for it.
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #255 on: August 06, 2024, 07:29:57 PM »
lol... that's a perfect summation of the three buckeyes listed.

From the list, I think #2 is the most glaring. I know OSU has other WR talent and they have a loaded roster, but you can't simply replace the most talented receiver of the last decade.
They'll miss Marvin for sure IMO Carnell Tate was under utilized last season kid is 6'3" soph. Kind of reminds me of Nico Collins/tarik Black with the Weasel 5-6 yrs back. That was a solid outfit along with DPJ
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #256 on: August 08, 2024, 05:21:08 PM »
REGULAR SEASON

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Akron
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Marshall
9/21TBD


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9/28TBD


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Iowa
10/5TBD


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Oregon
10/12TBD


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10/26TBD


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11/2TBD


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My take on the schedule:
Despite losing three straight to the cheating Wolverines and that being THE GAME, I think that the key here is the four-game stretch October 5 through November 2 consisting of:

  • vs Iowa on October 5
  • at Oregon on October 12
  • Week off on October 19
  • vs Nebraska on October 26
  • at Penn State on November 2
I do not believe that Iowa and Nebraska will be quite at Ohio State's level and those are home games so the Buckeyes *SHOULD* win those but I see them as teams that are good enough to knock off Ohio State if the Buckeyes get caught peeking ahead or are otherwise not on top of their game.  

The road trips to Oregon and Penn State look to be extremely tough games in extremely hostile road environments.   Specifically with regard to Oregon, here are all of Ohio State's results in Pacific Coast state road games in my lifetime:
  • 52-34 win at Cal on 9/14/2013.  Even this wasn't all that impressive considering that tOSU started that season 12-0 while Cal went 1-11
  • 35-3 loss at USC on 9/13/2008.  That USC team was a powerhouse so there isn't much shame in losing but getting run off the field was embarrassing.  
  • 33-14 win at Washington on 9/15/2007.  Nice to get a win but tOSU was 11-2 and WA was 4-9 so this isn't all that impressive either.  
  • 13-6 loss at UCLA on 9/22/2001.  Not a good showing in Tressel's inaugural season.  
  • 25-16 loss at Washington on 9/10/1994.  Ohio State was a better team (9-4 vs 7-4) but lost anyway.  
  • 40-7 loss at Washington on 9/13/1986.  Ohio State was MUCH better than their dismal showing in Seattle.  
  • 24-19 win at Stanford on 9/26/1981.  Another unimpressive win.  Ohio State went 9-3 that year while Stanford went 4-7, the Buckeyes should have mauled the Cardinal not barely escaped.  
  • 17-13 win at UCLA on 9/29/1979.  This is a very unimpressive win considering that UCLA was sub .500 that year while tOSU was one play from the NC.  
  • 41-20 win at UCLA on 10/4/1975.  Finally an impressive looking win except it really wasn't.  The 20 points that UCLA scored on tOSU's defense that day was the second most given up by the Buckeyes in a two year stretch of 1974-1975.  The only time in those two years that the Buckeyes gave up more than 20 was when they lost 23-10 to these very same Bruins in the Rose Bowl at the end of the 1975 season, Ugh!  

By my count there have been nine tOSU road games in CA/OR/WA in my lifetime and the Buckeyes are 5-4 with four decidedly unimpressive wins over vastly inferior opponents, one win that was great but that it came before losing to the same team on the same field later, and four losses including getting absolutely run off the field twice and losing to definitively inferior opponents the other two times.  That doesn't portend well for the trip to Autzen on October 12.  

Penn State is a bit of a conundrum.  The Buckeyes have more-or-less dominated the series since the Lions joined the League but that is mostly a product of being a near-perfect 14-2 at home with losses only in the 2011 catastrophe in in 2008.  In Happy Valley the series has been MUCH closer with the Buckeyes holding only a 9-6 advantage and even the average scores are nearly equal.  The Nittany Lions are always "up" for this game at their place and there have been several Buckeye losses to inferior teams and close wins in years where, based on records, you would expect the Buckeyes to obliterate the Lions.  

Aside from these four games and THE GAME, the Buckeyes would have to really screw up to lose a game.  The OOC is an embarrassment and the rest of the league opponents are projected to be bottom-feeders.  Thus, this four game stretch is the key and:
  • 4-0:  The Michigan game likely becomes an exhibition as the Buckeyes will have already clinched a spot in the B1GCG.  
  • 3-1:  The Michigan game matters but the Buckeyes are in the playoff either way, THE GAME simply determines whether it is as a first round traveler, as a first round host, or as a team sitting out the first round with a bye.  
  • 2-2:  The Michigan game becomes intensely important because the Buckeyes might not be able to make the B1GCG even with a win and they certainly can't with a loss.  
  • 1-3:  The Michigan game is a chance to redeem the season and *MAYBE* get back into the B1GCG and CFP mix.  
  • 0-4:  The wheels have come off and the Michigan game serves only as a chance at redemption in a season that will be viewed as a failure regardless.  


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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #257 on: August 08, 2024, 05:32:54 PM »
I hate that we have no idead until a couple of weeks ahead when and on what network a game is going to be played

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #258 on: August 08, 2024, 10:10:47 PM »
keep your head on a swivel
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #259 on: August 15, 2024, 01:06:25 PM »
Ryan Day Names Will Howard Ohio State’s Starting Quarterback for 2024 Season

Ryan Day officially anointed the Kansas State transfer as Ohio State’s starting quarterback to begin the 2024 season at his press conference on Thursday, two weeks after the first day of preseason camp.

Day's declaration wraps up a months-long quarterback battle between Howard, redshirt sophomore Devin Brown and the other three scholarship quarterbacks on Ohio State’s roster.

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #260 on: August 20, 2024, 11:19:38 AM »
insane to me that Ryan Day has the 9th best betting odds to be fired yet James Franklin doesn't even make the list...


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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #261 on: August 20, 2024, 01:05:42 PM »
Wow.
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #262 on: August 20, 2024, 01:19:18 PM »
insane to me that Ryan Day has the 9th best betting odds to be fired yet James Franklin doesn't even make the list...


https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/1825546978119541056
That is silly.  easy Money.    The best active winning % in CFB, and who has assembled a strong team.  Those odds should be 500-1.   Lots of hyperbole, but not much to it.

College Football Coaches Winning Percentage Rankings 1-134: Who Wins? - College Football News | College Football Predictions, Analysis and Updates


1 Ryan Day, Ohio State 87.5%

Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 5.5

2 Kirby Smart, Georgia 85.5%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 8

3 Jon Sumrall, Tulane 85.2%

Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 2

4 Curt Cignetti, Indiana 82.6%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 2

5 Dan Lanning, Oregon 81.5%

Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 2

T6 Lincoln Riley, USC 80.4%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 7

T6 Kalen DeBoer, Alabama 80.4%
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8 Dabo Swinney, Clemson 79.8%
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #263 on: August 20, 2024, 03:27:06 PM »
That is silly.  easy Money.    The best active winning % in CFB, and who has assembled a strong team.  Those odds should be 500-1.  Lots of hyperbole, but not much to it.

College Football Coaches Winning Percentage Rankings 1-134: Who Wins? - College Football News | College Football Predictions, Analysis and Updates


1 Ryan Day, Ohio State 87.5%

Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 5.5

2 Kirby Smart, Georgia 85.5%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 8

3 Jon Sumrall, Tulane 85.2%

Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 2

4 Curt Cignetti, Indiana 82.6%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 2

5 Dan Lanning, Oregon 81.5%

Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 2

T6 Lincoln Riley, USC 80.4%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 7

T6 Kalen DeBoer, Alabama 80.4%
Seasons as an FBS Head Coach: 4

8 Dabo Swinney, Clemson 79.8%
yeah I might actually put money on that. 

no way Day is getting fired before Billy Napier or Mario Cristobal. 

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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #264 on: August 20, 2024, 06:03:08 PM »
Day might get fired, but it will be after the season

some unlucky saps aren't gonna make it to the end
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Re: 2024 Ohio State Off-Season Thread
« Reply #265 on: August 22, 2024, 11:13:42 AM »
Urbs putting more pressure on Day. Have heard Urban say stuff like this a few times now regarding this team. Tressel has as well. Urbs had better rosters than this. So did Day. It's the best, most complete roster going in 2024 and they should be favored along with Georgia for the Natty....but c'mon Urbs. Oh and Georgia's 2021 roster might've been the best of best just based on the defensive 2 deep alone. Never seen that many players drafted that highly from a single defense. And the best guy on the fucking defense was the undersized ILB who went in the 3rd round. 



 

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