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Topic: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #868 on: February 22, 2025, 10:14:24 AM »
Big MSU win. Saw the limits of zoning them up. A good passing team can punish that pretty good. (Also a few guys started hitting 3s).
Tre Holloman getting more PT as a result of Fears getting exposed by the zone against Indiana has been a very positive development.

Wolf and Goldin are a PITA, but they have to get SOMETHING from their backcourt, and they didn't last night.  Their starting PG was a -26 in +/-

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« Reply #869 on: February 22, 2025, 01:30:30 PM »
You can both see why Oregon is going to end up a 20-win team and why they lost five in a row at one point. 

They have pieces and aren't badly coached, but they lack a certain consistency. 

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« Reply #870 on: February 22, 2025, 02:24:59 PM »
You can both see why Oregon is going to end up a 20-win team and why they lost five in a row at one point.

They have pieces and aren't badly coached, but they lack a certain consistency.
Wisconsin blew a big lead as Oregon rallied and won in OT. Point stands. 

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« Reply #871 on: February 22, 2025, 02:37:50 PM »
Pathetic loss. I f'ing HATE Oregon.
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« Reply #872 on: February 22, 2025, 02:52:34 PM »
Weird game. Basically played perfectly fine for a healthy majority, then just started throwing up on the court. And even then, if they make two more plays, they’re fine.

Likely fumbled annd outside chance at a conference title, which is annoying.

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« Reply #873 on: February 22, 2025, 03:18:00 PM »
Weird game. Basically played perfectly fine for a healthy majority, then just started throwing up on the court. And even then, if they make two more plays, they’re fine.

Likely fumbled annd outside chance at a conference title, which is annoying.

Still play MSU, which will either make or end their chances most likely

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« Reply #874 on: February 22, 2025, 03:23:59 PM »
Still play MSU, which will either make or end their chances most likely
I think they're cooked.
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« Reply #875 on: February 22, 2025, 03:33:08 PM »
You can both see why Oregon is going to end up a 20-win team and why they lost five in a row at one point.

They have pieces and aren't badly coached, but they lack a certain consistency.
I was actually thinking when watching Dana Altman interviewed during the Iowa game earlier, what is his legacy?  I think he's substantially underrated.

He built Creighton out of nothing, and yes it sort of stagnated late in his tenure there, but they aren't where they are now without him.  Then he really stabilized an up and down Oregon team.  After taking a couple years to get it running, he's about to make his 10th NCAA tournament in 13 years, at a program that had made 10 NCAA tournaments ever, prior.  I know he was Oregon's like 6th choice (Izzo for one was called prior), but he's done a good job there.  He is #41 in the history of college basketball in career wins, ahead of Izzo

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« Reply #876 on: February 22, 2025, 04:03:16 PM »
I'd welcome Dana Altman at UNL
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« Reply #877 on: February 22, 2025, 05:03:06 PM »
I'm having lunch with a Dana on Monday.

She's a lady.
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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #878 on: February 22, 2025, 05:43:55 PM »
Tre Holloman getting more PT as a result of Fears getting exposed by the zone against Indiana has been a very positive development.

Wolf and Goldin are a PITA, but they have to get SOMETHING from their backcourt, and they didn't last night.  Their starting PG was a -26 in +/-
Was watching an MSU basketball YouTube breakdown of the last three games.  Obviously they turned a 16 point deficit into a 14 point win at Illinois.  But watching how Purdue and Michigan guarded the rolls in the first half vs. the second half, I think you are seeing MSU's depth creating an issue.  Both Kaufmann-Redd and Goldin were getting repeatedly killed in the second halves on some pretty simply action.

MSU might not have a single player on any of the three All-Big Ten teams, and that probably matters in a one score game in the final minute.  But being able to push games out to double digits by that final tv timeout is what MSU is going to have to lean on.  They are largely killing teams in those 2nd-4th segments of the 2nd half

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #879 on: February 22, 2025, 10:34:11 PM »
I think they're cooked.
For the conference title? Probably. It’s annoying, but not the end of the world. 

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #880 on: February 22, 2025, 11:00:10 PM »
For the conference title? Probably. It’s annoying, but not the end of the world.
Ive always put a lot of stock in regular season Big Ten titles.  With 18 teams, not sure how much I care anymore.

I still care, just not sure where.  BTT banners rank about like winning a Battle 4 Atlantis, and are only decreasing.  But regular season banners feel more and more schedule based, on one hand.  But on the other hand, schedules are arguably more balanced now than with 14.  You only have 3 double plays, schedule imbalance is more about who you get H/A vs. who you play.

Id be curious to see medinas tier breakdown of how many projected W/L you missed

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Re: 2024-2025 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #881 on: February 23, 2025, 09:38:06 AM »
Ive always put a lot of stock in regular season Big Ten titles.  With 18 teams, not sure how much I care anymore.

I still care, just not sure where.  BTT banners rank about like winning a Battle 4 Atlantis, and are only decreasing.  But regular season banners feel more and more schedule based, on one hand.  But on the other hand, schedules are arguably more balanced now than with 14.  You only have 3 double plays, schedule imbalance is more about who you get H/A vs. who you play.

Id be curious to see medinas tier breakdown of how many projected W/L you missed

I mean, I care and I would like to have one a lot, but I’ve seen a lot of seasons without one, so I’m not gonna freak out. 

But if this game decides that, I will be more irritated, 

 

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