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Topic: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #322 on: November 05, 2022, 11:20:03 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 02, 2022, 08:50:46 PM
Sounds like MSU and Bo Edmondson have decided to part ways, which was seemingly a long time in making.  He was apparently sitting out this fall with anxiety issues, and was leaning towards staying home.

But the odd part is that MSU is refocusing on flipping Dante Moore?
Some smoke from the UM folks that they think a flip to MSU is now a strong possibility 
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #323 on: November 07, 2022, 10:02:57 AM »
I don't think Scherer knows s*** about s***, but FWIW.  Seems to be tied to Lanning having interest in the Auburn job

Michigan State Crystal Ball for 5-star QB
VIP BySEAN SCHERER 35 minutes ago

Just placed Crystal Ball for Michigan State on a five-star prospect, Dante Moore, a senior quarterback from Detroit (Mich.) Martin Luther King.

Per a source, Moore's relationship with Mel Tucker has strengthened over the last few weeks. I'm hearing Tucker and his coaching staff have put themselves in the running to flip the 6-foot-2.5, 210-pound Moore from Oregon to Michigan State. The five-star signal caller Moore has been committed to Oregon since July 8. A separate source added Tucker is determined to keep Moore in-state and play for the Spartans.

247Sports ranks Moore as the nation's No. 2 overall prospect in the class of 2023.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #324 on: November 07, 2022, 10:10:46 AM »
Quote from: ELA on November 05, 2022, 11:20:03 PM
Some smoke from the UM folks that they think a flip to MSU is now a strong possibility
haven't seen that. I have seen that there are rumors Oregon HC and OC may be looking at other jobs though, which would make sense as to why Moore might be exploring other options.

Sounds like Michigan is close to landing 5* QB in 2024 Jadyn Davis. I'd rather have Dante Moore because '23 class seems to me to be a more pressing need for a big-time QB but beggars can't be choosers. 

The real prize is 2025 5* QB Bryce Underwood. He's going to be the #1 player in the 2025 class and one of the best QB prospects to hit the scene in a loooooong time. His natural god given ability puts Dante Moore's or CJ Carr's to shame. And those guys can play, they're talented. I think taking a 5* QB in the class before him in 2024 is only going to hurt Michigan's chances.

Just from a physical standpoint Bryce Underwood looked like a college player at 14 years old. His arm strength is A+, better than CJ Carr or Moore who are both older than him. He's a legit 6'3ish and 210 pounds and I don't even think he's 16 yet. He's running 4.4-4.5 in the 40 and as a freshman last year he threw for 39 TD vs 4 INT and lead Belleville to a 13-1 record and the MHSAA Division I state championship. Looks like he's got them primed for a repeat in his sophomore year. He's just a freakish talent. Going to be really pissed if Harbaugh can't keep him home. Especially with that dickbag Crowell out of the way now.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #325 on: November 07, 2022, 08:27:07 PM »
Apparently Moore's parents like that MSU has a black head coach
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #326 on: November 07, 2022, 08:47:50 PM »
Quote from: ELA on November 07, 2022, 08:27:07 PM
Apparently Moore's parents like that MSU has a black head coach
I heard the Dad is a big Michigan fan, even has Michigan tats. I will say it's probably a bad idea to pick a school just because the head coach is black. My guess is MSU boosters are putting together a huge NIL package for Moore and if he signs with MSU it'll be that + he's got a pretty easy path to becoming the starting QB at MSU. 
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #327 on: November 07, 2022, 10:03:47 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 07, 2022, 08:47:50 PM
I heard the Dad is a big Michigan fan, even has Michigan tats. I will say it's probably a bad idea to pick a school just because the head coach is black. My guess is MSU boosters are putting together a huge NIL package for Moore and if he signs with MSU it'll be that + he's got a pretty easy path to becoming the starting QB at MSU.
I'm not going to judge what factors are important to a kid and his family.  But Bret Bielema has an Iowa tattoo, and Jim Harbaugh said UM academics are a joke, so, people chamge

Also, he wore an MSU shirt when his son committed

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #328 on: November 08, 2022, 07:39:39 AM »
Badgers finally got a 2023 QB last night.

Someone has to run the Scout team I guess??




They only had FIVE offers out this year until they offered this kid.

One of those 6 offers was Dante Moore. Yeah, OK...

QB recruiting needs to change. Cast a wider net.

UW has 82 offers out for 2024.

Michigan has 204.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #329 on: November 08, 2022, 09:19:52 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 08, 2022, 07:39:39 AM
Badgers finally got a 2023 QB last night.

Someone has to run the Scout team I guess??




They only had FIVE offers out this year until they offered this kid.

One of those 6 offers was Dante Moore. Yeah, OK...

QB recruiting needs to change. Cast a wider net.

UW has 82 offers out for 2024.

Michigan has 204.
I'm of the opinion teams should be taking 1-2 QB's ever year- even the "lowly" 3* variety. You just never know with that position. Plenty of 5* bust stories at QB, and plenty of 3* success stories. Shoot, pretty sure Baker Mayfield was a 2* walk-on and Johnny Manziel was a 3* after thought. Just need to stack QB's every year and hope for the best. Michigan took a 3* in 2020, 5* JJ in 2021, two 3*'s in 2022, and right now they don't have a QB for 2023 but they need to find one imo, and in 2024 looks like they've went all in on 5* Jadyn Davis and that he's close to committing. It's the most important position in the game- just need to keep stacking them every year and hope one pans out.
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #330 on: November 08, 2022, 09:50:41 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on November 08, 2022, 09:19:52 AM
I'm of the opinion teams should be taking 1-2 QB's ever year- even the "lowly" 3* variety. You just never know with that position. Plenty of 5* bust stories at QB, and plenty of 3* success stories. Shoot, pretty sure Baker Mayfield was a 2* walk-on and Johnny Manziel was a 3* after thought. Just need to stack QB's every year and hope for the best. Michigan took a 3* in 2020, 5* JJ in 2021, two 3*'s in 2022, and right now they don't have a QB for 2023 but they need to find one imo, and in 2024 looks like they've went all in on 5* Jadyn Davis and that he's close to committing. It's the most important position in the game- just need to keep stacking them every year and hope one pans out.
PC got into a habit of only taking one per season, and then in 2020 he didn't take ANY.

Depth right now is Mertz and Burkett (True Fr they would like to 'shirt).

Snap takers are Chase Wolf and a walk on, for the next three games.

Now with this commitment I think they should take one more - either a late bloomer or hit the portal.

Hello Cade...
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #331 on: November 08, 2022, 09:55:31 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 08, 2022, 09:50:41 AM
PC got into a habit of only taking one per season, and then in 2020 he didn't take ANY.

Depth right now is Mertz and Burkett (True Fr they would like to 'shirt).

Snap takers are Chase Wolf and a walk on, for the next three games.

Now with this commitment I think they should take one more - either a late bloomer or hit the portal.

Hello Cade...
Cade is definitely going to leave. Wish he'd stay and be an awesome back-up, but he's good enough to play somewhere. I think he'd fit into the culture at Wisconsin seamlessly. As long as he doesn't transfer for Notre Dame or Michigan State or Ohio State, I'll always root for the kid.
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« Reply #332 on: November 08, 2022, 12:14:16 PM »
A little insight into how Wisconsin recruits, and why they don't just fling offers all over the place. From Rivals:


"From the conversations that I had with Coach Engram, they really dug in deep," Hubbard said. "And not just the tape and watching him throw the ball. Coach Engram wanted some names of teachers and some other people in the building outside of athletics who could talk about Cole. I've been coaching for about 25 years and that's the first time that I had a coach ask those types of questions.


"That just shows that they wanted to take their time. It was slow going for Cole and I told him to be patient and let the process play out, and it paid off for him with that offer. Wisconsin did a great job of digging into Cole and what he's all about."
Monday, LaCrue announced his commitment to Wisconsin. He ultimately chose UW over scholarships from Tulane and Colorado.

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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #333 on: November 08, 2022, 12:19:09 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 08, 2022, 12:14:16 PM
A little insight into how Wisconsin recruits, and why they don't just fling offers all over the place. From Rivals:


"From the conversations that I had with Coach Engram, they really dug in deep," Hubbard said. "And not just the tape and watching him throw the ball. Coach Engram wanted some names of teachers and some other people in the building outside of athletics who could talk about Cole. I've been coaching for about 25 years and that's the first time that I had a coach ask those types of questions.


"That just shows that they wanted to take their time. It was slow going for Cole and I told him to be patient and let the process play out, and it paid off for him with that offer. Wisconsin did a great job of digging into Cole and what he's all about."
Monday, LaCrue announced his commitment to Wisconsin. He ultimately chose UW over scholarships from Tulane and Colorado.


I like that approach. Simply recruiting talent with no regards to the kids character, ends up biting teams in the rear end. I am hoping that Coach Day does something similar at tOSU. 

I'm not sure how true it is, but Woody Hayes was similar in wanting to know what kind of kid he was recruiting. I had heard a former player state that when Woody showed up to his home, he told the kid to leave as he wanted to talk with his parents about what kind of person that potential recruit was.
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« Reply #334 on: November 08, 2022, 05:10:41 PM »
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Re: 2023 Recruiting or How I learned to stop worrying & love the portal
« Reply #335 on: November 11, 2022, 10:38:04 AM »
Miami bleeding 'croots. Miami's highest rated QB commit in years- 2023 4* QB Jaden Rashada from California (#57 overall, #7 QB) flips to Florida. Reportedly Miami boosters had lined up a huge NIL package to land him out of Cali. Looks like Miami sucking ass made him change his mind lol.

Miami had a couple high profile Florida 'croots visit for the Duke game and openly clown Miami on Twitter during and after the game in which Miami got BLOWN out in a half empty NFL stadium by freaking Duke. Josh Gattis is a bad OC, Mario Cristobal is a mediocre coach, and Miami is dead and I don't think they're ever coming back.

Landscape has changed too much. Miami used to get kids from Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties that other schools wouldn't take because of off-field issues. They aren't really doing that now- they've stepped up their admissions standards significantly since the 80s and 90s. And the top kids from South FL used to pretty much only go to Miami if they had the offer or FSU or Florida. Now they go just about everywhere- LSU, Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan, USC, ND- you name it- they almost go other places before they go to Miami.
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