2023 NFL Thread

[OrangeAfroMan]

I disagree

if you're not going to play the run and tackle, you shouldn't be playing defense

Saying a CB is a good tackler would be a back-handed compliment, wouldn't it?  As in 'he's not great in coverage.'

It's like caring if your pitcher can hit.  WTF?

[FearlessF]

no, CBs that are good in run D are a good value to the defense.
and says nothing about his cover ability

and no, your pitcher hitting would be like caring if your corner can play offense
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I'm not a fan of football players that are soft, or don't give as much effort as their teammates, or think they are better than others and don't need to try as hard

Deion was a pussy

[MrNubbz]

That's no way to talk about someone who ran back interceptions,punts and kick offs for Jesus

[OrangeAfroMan]

Idk, I think I have to go with the "don't hustle" idea from a podcast I loved listening to.

It was a fantasy baseball podcast, and they'd lament when player after player, hustling to make a catch or beat out a throw would inevitably get hurt and be out 4-6 weeks.
1 out isn't worth a great player being out that long.  Neither is 1 hit.  
They were looking at it as selfish fantasy baseball owners, but in actuality, they're right.  
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So I apply that to Deion.  
If you have the best cover CB of all-time, I don't care if he isn't an enthusiastic tackler.  Even if he's a pussy and is afraid he'll get hurt tacking a 220 lb NFL RB, a) he may be correct, and b) that one play isn't worth him being injured for half the season.  
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Silly me.

[FearlessF]

you are silly and Deion was a pussy 

[ELA]

Idk, I think I have to go with the "don't hustle" idea from a podcast I loved listening to.

It was a fantasy baseball podcast, and they'd lament when player after player, hustling to make a catch or beat out a throw would inevitably get hurt and be out 4-6 weeks.
1 out isn't worth a great player being out that long.  Neither is 1 hit. 
They were looking at it as selfish fantasy baseball owners, but in actuality, they're right. 
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So I apply that to Deion. 
If you have the best cover CB of all-time, I don't care if he isn't an enthusiastic tackler.  Even if he's a pussy and is afraid he'll get hurt tacking a 220 lb NFL RB, a) he may be correct, and b) that one play isn't worth him being injured for half the season. 
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Silly me.

Ok, even given all that.  Going back to the original point, I'd still rather have a top 3 cover corner, who was also an elite tackler.  It's not like we are talking about comparing him to the Texans #2 corner, who might be an above average tackler.  We are talking about a HOF CB, who could have been a HOF safety

[FearlessF]

Antoine Winfield Sr.  played 14 years in the National Football League
Total tackles: 1,094
Sacks: 7.5
Interceptions: 27

[FearlessF]

Hey, the 49ers and cowboys agreed with deionized and he does have 2 sb rings.

Just not my jive

[FearlessF]

[Mdot21]

Ravens cave and pay Lamar the richest QB contract in history, topping Jalen Hurts' record setting deal by $5 million. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

What are the odds he changes his game to avoid injury and is far less effective?

[ELA]

https://twitter.com/Titans/status/1656827454118412289?t=53H3QyPTMKdsSPG_QkQI6A&s=19

[OrangeAfroMan]

Vegas 69ers anyone??

[FearlessF]