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Topic: ~2024 MLB Thread~

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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #602 on: June 01, 2024, 08:42:17 AM »
George Brett and Rod Carew pose before a game, May 1, 1980

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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #603 on: June 01, 2024, 08:47:36 AM »
Carew is probably the best pure hitter of my lifetime of watching baseball (which ended 4 years ago).
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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #604 on: June 01, 2024, 08:51:27 AM »
I'd agree and also tip my cap to Tony Gwynn
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« Reply #605 on: June 01, 2024, 08:56:07 AM »
Yep, he's up there.

Frank Thomas too. Prolific walker, hit to all fields, hit for power.
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« Reply #606 on: June 01, 2024, 08:56:59 AM »
the Big Hurt
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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #607 on: June 01, 2024, 09:27:15 AM »
Carew is probably the best pure hitter of my lifetime of watching baseball (which ended 4 years ago).
Yrs ago I read "The Umpire Strikes Back" By Ron Luciano(RIP),an entertaining guy telling tales from his yrs as an UMP - gotta read it - classic.Prolly the 2nd funniest book I've ever read after "FATSO" by Art Donovan.Any way Ron regales that if Carew didn't swing he'd call it a ball
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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #608 on: June 01, 2024, 09:29:36 AM »
Yrs ago I read "The Umpire Strikes Back" By Ron Luciano(RIP),an entertaining guy telling tales from his yrs as an UMP - gotta read it - classic.Prolly the 2nd funniest book I've ever read after "FATSO" by Art Donovan.Any way Ron regales that if Carew didn't swing he'd call it a ball







can't hit 300 with the bat on your shoulder
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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #609 on: June 01, 2024, 09:42:34 AM »
Or when Ryan was pitching "that sounded high"
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« Reply #610 on: June 01, 2024, 09:50:08 AM »
when Ryan was pitching you didn't want to hear any chin music, but you knew there would be plenty of high heat
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« Reply #611 on: June 05, 2024, 04:55:07 PM »

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« Reply #612 on: June 05, 2024, 05:35:24 PM »
The Carew-Gwynn pairing reminded me of this article.  Idk if the link will work, but I'll share some of the info here.
Families of Hitters

James found you could group hitters into their 2b-3b-HR ratios.  Not a discovery, per se, but a fun exercise which yields results that make some sense.

McGwire and Killebrew were the only 3-0-7 (30% 2b, 0% 3b, 70% HR) hitters.  Small family.

The best group is the 415 family (Bonds, Ruth, Griffey, Aaron, Mays, ARod, Ott, Foxx, Schmidt).
Here you can see BA isn't part of this, just ratio of XBH.

So the reason I'm sharing this is that in my mind, Carew-Boggs-Gwynn are all basically the same kind of hitter....but are they?
Gwynn is 712
Boggs is 811
Carew - 721

So, all in the same neighborhood, but perhaps not as homogenous as I had thought.

My favorite players are 505s:  Frank Thomas and Ted Williams...along with Manny Ramirez, Bagwell, Chipper, and Sheffield.  Btw, Thomas and Williams both had 521 career HR.

Frank Thomas and Jeff Bagwell are the same in many ways (exact birth date, position, 1994 MVPs,...and 505s here.
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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #613 on: June 05, 2024, 05:43:33 PM »
first number is singles and doubles combined?
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Re: ~2024 MLB Thread~
« Reply #615 on: June 05, 2024, 10:22:06 PM »
Angels comfortably have the best city connect unis.  Only thing theyve done right, but at least they have that.

 

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