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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on March 29, 2023, 12:57:58 PM
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AMERICAN
EAST
- Yankees
- Blue Jays
- Rays
- Orioles
- Red Sox
CENTRAL
- Guardians
- White Sox
- Twins
- Royals
- Tigers
WEST
- Astros
- Mariners
- Rangers
- Angels
- Athletics
NATIONAL
EAST
- Braves
- Mets
- Phillies
- Marlins
- Nationals
CENTRAL
- Cardinals
- Brewers
- Pirates
- Cubs
- Reds
WEST
- Padres
- Dodgers
- Giants
- Diamondbacks
- Rockies
WILDCARD ROUND
- Twins d. Guardians
- Blue Jays d. White Sox
- Padres d. Brewers
- Mets d. Dodgers
DIVISIONAL SERIES
- Astros d. Twins
- Yankees d. Blue Jays
- Mets d. Cardinals
- Braves d. Padres
CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
- Yankees d. Astros
- Braves d. Mets
WORLD SERIES
- Atlanta Braves d. New York Yankees
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I was right there with you until the champ series
then you kinda went off course
:)
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Sounds like a plan to me.
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I'm taking my first day off work this year for my personal holiday: Opening Day. Gonna grill up some hotdogs and watch some baseball.
Gonna sleep in.
Nathan's bun-length.
Mustard.
Diced onion.
Games start at 10am.
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My only prediction is that the Dodgers will not win the West this year.
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My desire is that the Mets fall on their face, as they often do. If the Yankees then Dodgers have been fat-wallet payroll sinners, what the Mets have done is akin to Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates' bank accounts sumo wrestling.
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I'll be attending the Diamondbacks home opener next week. Really enjoy sampling other city's opening day. Bummed to have missed Cactus League this yr.
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I'm taking my first day off work this year for my personal holiday: Opening Day. Gonna grill up some hotdogs and watch some baseball.
Gonna sleep in.
Nathan's bun-length.
Mustard.
Diced onion.
Games start at 10am.
Same, but also diced pickles
Also, I sort of feel like every home team deserves to win on Opening Day, but playing in Tampa, eh....
They showed a stat that the Tigers are 2nd only to the Astros in Opening Day record over the past decade. Astros are 9-1, Tigers are 8-2. Astros makes sense, Tigers, not so much. A decade captures 2 playoffs teams, and one solid team that would have made the 6 team playoff, but 7 pretty awful teams.
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The Braves are undefeated.
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Loving the pitch clock. Only have to suffer through about 2:15 of Tigers baseball
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Same, but also diced pickles
Also, I sort of feel like every home team deserves to win on Opening Day, but playing in Tampa, eh....
They showed a stat that the Tigers are 2nd only to the Astros in Opening Day record over the past decade. Astros are 9-1, Tigers are 8-2. Astros makes sense, Tigers, not so much. A decade captures 2 playoffs teams, and one solid team that would have made the 6 team playoff, but 7 pretty awful teams.
I show that the Astros are 10 and 0 opening day last 10 years
going for 11 in a row tonight
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Loving the pitch clock. Only have to suffer through about 2:15 of Tigers baseball
Are you saying mlb games will only be a little over 2 hours because of the pitch clock?
Ive not watched any pre season games this year
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I'm loving the pitch clock too. I was tired of regularly needing 4 hours to see 9 innings of baseball.
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I'm loving the pitch clock too. I was tired of regularly needing 4 hours to see 9 innings of baseball.
too early for me to decide but one thing I dont like is limiting pitcher to two pick off moves per batter
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Best sign in today's micro sample size is this. A 10-9 game was over in 3:10! Sign me up.
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too early for me to decide but one thing I dont like is limiting pitcher to two pick off moves per batter
We could find another Lou Brock
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Rickey likes these rules.
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Not pinch running for Maldonado there shows the managers being behind the rules changes early
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I show that the Astros are 10 and 0 opening day last 10 years
going for 11 in a row tonight
Oh well
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Great last couple of innings in HOU.
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It's time for Dodgers baseball!
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too early for me to decide but one thing I dont like is limiting pitcher to two pick off moves per batter
Yeah. I generally like rule changes which help maintain the original balance. I think the pitch clock and larger bases and shift limitations just put baseball back to how it was drawn up. But I think the throw over limit is just to prevent pitchers from using it to slow down the game. But stragically I don't think it was an issue. So if the pitcher has already thrown over twice, do you essentially just get a free pass?
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Yeah. I generally like rule changes which help maintain the original balance. I think the pitch clock and larger bases and shift limitations just put baseball back to how it was drawn up. But I think the throw over limit is just to prevent pitchers from using it to slow down the game. But stragically I don't think it was an issue. So if the pitcher has already thrown over twice, do you essentially just get a free pass?
Im thinking there will be very few times when a pitcher will actually throw over for the 2nd time
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Longer leads after 2 throws, more stolen bases. Then, over time, ideally, better pickoff moves, better catcher-throwers, and most importantly, diversity in the lineup.
No more lineups made up of 9 guys trying to hit dingers. Some fast guys in there that truly contribute meaningfully and will stick around. With those players, more doubles, more triples. More action.
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So MLB Network is showing Angels-As, as their national game, with Mariners-Guardians at their regional game, because they've apparently gone full NBA, showing a crappy team with big stars
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Angels already in mid-season form in terms of wasting Ohtani
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Mariners game in a tidy 214.
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Mariners game in a tidy 214.
And that game should have been the MLB Network national game, between two playoff contenders. Instead, I'm stuck watching the Angels squander another Ohtani start against the As, while a potential playoff preview between the Guardians and Mariners is relegated to regional coverage
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Be happy you have MLB Network. It's not on Youtube TV, because they're squabbling over money. And since MLB decided having games on different channels is stupid, I had to go out to a sports bar.
Zero baseball games on TV today for me. FFS.
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its all about ratings and advertising $$$
Angels = large market
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its all about ratings and advertising $$$
Angels = large market
MLBN carried both games, but they are only allowed to air the game in the local market a limited number of times, so they generally show one game "nationally" and put the other game in the local markets of the national game. So actually LA was the one place that got Mariners-Guardians
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the avg game time for opening day games was 28 minutes shorter then 2022 opening day games
is the 28 minutes worth all the effert spent on continually watching a 20 second timer
to me no way
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Yes
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to the majority of fans, yes
to the majority of baseball purists, maybe not
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I wouldn't be too sure of the latter.
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that's why the "maybe"
Tell Jake, "Happy Birthday"
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Yeah, I think I'm fairly purist, and most of the baseball personalities who I would say are purists, and they are all on board.
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Yeah, I think I'm fairly purist, and most of the baseball personalities who I would say are purists, and they are all on board.
I fear this is just the start
pretty soon it wont be baseball anymore
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Everyone stepping off and adjusting their batting gloves, sign sequence, and jock strap for a minute between a pitch being thrown wasn't baseball.
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Everyone stepping off and adjusting their batting gloves, sign sequence, and jock strap for a minute between a pitch being thrown wasn't baseball.
sure it is
calling a ball if the pitch isnt thrown in 20 sec is whats not baseball
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Count me in opposition to all this malarkey intended to infuse baseball with action. How will I ever be able to nap through a game?
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Everyone stepping off and adjusting their batting gloves, sign sequence, and jock strap for a minute between a pitch being thrown wasn't baseball.
LMAO
Thanks!!
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I've suggested simply doing away with the velcro on the gloves or just get rid of gloves.
Jock straps are important, gloves are for sissies
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I still have my mitt from when I was a kid. Had it for 30 years or so. First base mitt (not a glove). Almost bought a replacement, but couldn't do it and got it re-laced.
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Purists should like the pitch clock, and honestly, it should only be needed for a few years. Get them into the habit. That's all.
A 2 hr and 30 min game IS baseball, not a 4-hour Yankees-Red Sox crapper.
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I would have preferred they made batters adjust to the shift, but oh well. I love the limited throws to first rule, because of the natural consequences.
The HR-BB-K game isn't "real" baseball. Triples and going 1st-to-3rd, and plays at the plate are baseball.
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Angels already in mid-season form in terms of wasting Ohtani
Hearing Ohtani struck out 10 over 6 scoreless innings, only to blow the lead against the lowly A's once relievers took the mound, my first thought was a less elaborate version of this:
https://twitter.com/matttomic/status/1394498097254965249
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Ohtani is good, but he's no High Pockets Kelly!
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Hearing Ohtani struck out 10 over 6 scoreless innings, only to blow the lead against the lowly A's once relievers took the mound, my first thought was a less elaborate version of this:
https://twitter.com/matttomic/status/1394498097254965249
There's a reason Tungsten Arm O'doyle was trending as the Angels blew it. I don't think a comedic tweet has ever been quite so accurate as what the Angels perpetually do
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ya know... it's not l;ike the Angel's management hasn't tried to find 7 other decent players to put on the field with Ohtani & Trout
it's got more to do with the 7 other players finding a way to SUCK
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ya know... it's not l;ike the Angel's management hasn't tried to find 7 other decent players to put on the field with Ohtani & Trout
it's got more to do with the 7 other players finding a way to SUCK
They've hit on a couple hitters, but their defense sucks, and they can't find pitching.
And it's pretty lear that the Dodgers are willing to take a half step back because they are getting Ohtani next year. And a half step back is still enough to make the playoffs, and as long as you get in, you've got a shot. If the Dodgers win 91 games, finish 2nd in the West, and win a World Series, nobody would be shocked.
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except OAM
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except OAM
No, he'd expect it. Because the Dodgers wouldn't "deserve" it
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that's right
the "best" reg season team never stands a change in the post season tourney
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that's right
the "best" reg season team never stands a change in the post season tourney
except guess who
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except guess who
The 2020 Dodgers? The last team with the best regular season record to win the World Series
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cheaters
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The 2020 Dodgers? The last team with the best regular season record to win the World Series
the Astros had the 2nd best record last year and won the WS
to me that should count as the team that should win actually winning
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todays Astro game was 8 and a half innings and took 3 hours and 11 min to play
so I guess last year this would have been a 4 hour game
they had their 1st clock violation toiday
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won't be their last
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won't be their last
well actually it was on the sox but yes we will have our share
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that's right
the "best" reg season team never stands a change in the post season tourney
It's not that they don't stand a chance, it's just virtually the same chance as everyone else.
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You guys joke, but look what the Angels have done....in the easiest environment to just get into the playoffs, they've only done it once, in 2014 and got swept.
They've had 3 disastrous $100 million contracts. They're a red-headed stepchild. Just an utter lack of competence. If they'd just get into the playoffs every few years in some capacity, yes, anything could happen.
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they need some monkey mojo
(https://sportmascots.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Rally-Monkey-Los-Angeles-Angels-of-Anaheim.jpg)
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the Astros had the 2nd best record last year and won the WS
to me that should count as the team that should win actually winning
Speaking of cheaters.
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The Braves are undefeated.
:)
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Speaking of cheaters.
get those trash cans ready
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Nothing like opening the season with back to back road series at Tampa and Houston to get fans thinking *maybe*
Got outscored 21-3 over the weekend at Tampa
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Nothing like opening the season with back to back road series at Tampa and Houston to get fans thinking *maybe*
Got outscored 21-3 over the weekend at Tampa
I think you have a real good shot at winning the Houston series
The astros are not hitting and our pitching isnt all that great
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Riley Greene is a 22 year old rookie who both looks older and has a better beard than me
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On this date in 1973, Minnesota Twins legend Tony Oliva became the first DH to homer in a regular season American League game. After missing most of the 1972 season with a bad knee, Oliva had his career revitalized by the new DH rule.
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I remember those teams Carew,Tovar,Blyleven,Killebrew,Oliva,Kaat,Mitterwald good not great
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never gonna be great with Calvin Griffith as owner, but the club was gonna make $$$
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Chase Field isn't so bad with that roof open.
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I wound up going to the DBacks opener, too.
For the first time, I got the worst, nose-bleed foul pole seats.....and the view was much better than I had anticipated! Could still track the ball from there....very surprising.
Good to see LA win. Looks like Kershaw got rocked tonight, though.
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My 10U team does this for free
https://twitter.com/TomNichols02/status/1644843839323095042?t=uidIGzxe08Vz6suw3s41pA&s=19
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There have been seven MLB teams losing even though their pitching threw a no hitter
The Astros are one of those teams losing a no hitter in 1964 when they were the Colt 45s
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I remember those teams Carew,Tovar,Blyleven,Killebrew,Oliva,Kaat,Mitterwald good not great
Ray Scott and Harmon after Twins clinched AL pennant in DC 1965
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The Diamondbacks beat the Dodgers 5 times all year last year (5-14).
The Diamondbacks have beaten the Dodgers 5 times this year.
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The Braves and Reds had mirror first innings last night:
Double
Walk
Double play
Strike out.
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The Diamondbacks beat the Dodgers 5 times all year last year (5-14).
The Diamondbacks have beaten the Dodgers 5 times this year.
Hell the Tigers might win 5 games all year
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Throwback to when the Tigers had 3 pitchers named in MLBs top 50 prospects, called up all 3, and now all 3 seem to be done for the season
https://twitter.com/EvanPetzold/status/1645976671810363394?t=EU5tLgTuIB3jFdssT7XgFg&s=19
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Marlins finally get a player to hit for the cycle.
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Marlins finally get a player to hit for the cycle.
It's far too late for me to get on my soapbox as to why that shouldn't even be a thing
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The cycle is fine, it's an oddity and rare enough.....it's when a player forgoes a triple to stay at 2nd FOR the cycle.
That's nuts.
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Unless the game is in hand
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A player could miss third base on a HR intentionally to get his 2B ...
I wonder how often a missed cycle is lacking a single?
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A player could miss third base on a HR intentionally to get his 2B ...
If the defensive team was paying attention, this wouldn't be a 2B. It would be an out on appeal.
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I thought if you missed say 3B on a homer you'd get credit for a double, if appealed.
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Maybe in OBR, but in softball and HS baseball, the BR is out.
Determining which runs score also gets tricky, but not as much as if one of the runners on base had missed a base and the whole mess then becomes a timing play.
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I dimly recall where someone hit a walk off with a runner at second, and the batter touched first and celebrated. He got credit for a single, as I dimly recall. Maybe nobody appealed.
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Didn't something like that happen with the Harvey Haddix near 13 inning perfect game loss?
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I dimly recall where someone hit a walk off with a runner at second, and the batter touched first and celebrated. He got credit for a single, as I dimly recall. Maybe nobody appealed.
Yeah, if the BR doesn't touch all 4 bases, it ain't a homer.
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Se robin Ventura grand slam single.
Haddix had that outcome when Aaron walked off the field from first base after Joe Adcock homered ruining the perfect game.
Something much more complicated but similarly happened in two pivotal NL games in 1908. One of which known as Merkle's Boner.
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Considering all the relievers who blow a save, and then get the W when their team regains the lead in the bottom of the inning, this seems harsh
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/36173995/oakland-chad-smith-gets-win-scorer-applies-obscure-rule
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Considering all the relievers who blow a save, and then get the W when their team regains the lead in the bottom of the inning, this seems harsh
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/36173995/oakland-chad-smith-gets-win-scorer-applies-obscure-rule
I dont like it just cause the rules allow a judgement to be made on the winning pitcher
The rules should not permit judgement to be used here
They should change the rule
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I've always thought the two limitations should be...
- If you are in line for the L when you threw your last pitch (not tied), you don't get the W, for what subsequently happens; except...
- If you are in line for a save, and blow it, even if you leave tied, not behind, you can't get a W
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I've always thought the two limitations should be...
- If you are in line for the L when you threw your last pitch (not tied), you don't get the W, for what subsequently happens; except...
- If you are in line for a save, and blow it, even if you leave tied, not behind, you can't get a W
whatever the rule should not leave any room for judgement
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Often, a number of wins for a short reliever is a bad sign, they do have blown saves of course. If I see a closer who is say 4-7, I think he probably had BS's.
There are so many stats already ...
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Da Braves are filling up hospitals right now. Or DLs.
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Tigers swept Cleveland in a DH today. 5 in a row, to battle back to 7-9. Not asking for this team to get to the postseason. Just get me through the summer. It's been 7 years since the Tigers played meaningful baseball past Memorial Day. Even the 2021 team that finished with an ok record, dug themselves such a hole, that they had to play outstanding just to almost be .500, so they were never particularly interesting
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Oakland’s home attendance Vs the Cubs this past Monday was announced as 4,714.
For the Oakland As it’s like a different form and purpose of tanking than we’re used to. Instead of losing for the sake of a higher draft pick, the As ownership has ruined the gameday experience and driven off the fans to justify moving the team elsewhere – Las Vegas. On top of all that the As have a league worst W/L record of 3-15.
https://twitter.com/DannyVietti/status/1647229068797169664
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I saw a movie just like that.
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I saw a movie just like that.
The movie was better
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April 18, 1958: Before a crowd of 78,672 at the Coliseum, the Dodgers play their first game in Los Angeles and defeat the San Francisco Giants, 6-5:
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And in "moves by owners who certainly aren't cheap", the Diamondbacks DFAd Bumgarner, and will have to eat the remaining $34 million on his contract.
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Shohei Ohtani struck out the side on 12 pitches in the first inning Friday night, throwing sweepers that broke horizontally like Frisbees and punctuating them with a 98.7-mph fastball.
Ohtani struck out a season-high 11 and allowed two hits over seven innings, and fill-in catcher Chad Wallach hit a two-run homer in Los Angeles' 2-0 victory.
Ohtani has given up two runs and eight hits over 28 innings with 38 strikeouts while lowering his ERA to 0.64 — the lowest in franchise history through a pitcher's first five starts. Ohtani also extended his franchise record with his 12th consecutive start allowing two runs or fewer.
After issuing a leadoff walk in the sixth, Ohtani fanned six in a row to secure his major league-best 12th double-digit strikeout game since the start of 2022.
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And in "moves by owners who certainly aren't cheap", the Diamondbacks DFAd Bumgarner, and will have to eat the remaining $34 million on his contract.
I have no idea what they expected when they signed him. There were exactly zero data points suggesting it was a good idea.
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Brewers hosting 9 vs old AL mates including 6 vs ole AL east clubs. Crew playing like those mid 80s clubs
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I have no idea what they expected when they signed him. There were exactly zero data points suggesting it was a good idea.
The athletic did a study of the 20 largest AAV pitching contracts of the past decade. And I was surprised that in general, it was about a 50-50 split as to whether they were team friendly or not. But the major caveat was that guys who came up young, and their big contract was not their first, but their second, like MadBum, were the terrible ones. Scherzer was the only one that held up. The guys on a more normal schedule, actually generally wound up deserving the deal
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that deal was very un-AZ like, had the stink of 'owner' wants a splashy signing. having said that, pretty staggering drop from a really nice four ish year peak.
on the other hand, they ought to ship him and Brian McCann to a fun camp somewhere far away.
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(https://i.imgur.com/eyWlEYx.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/eyWlEYx.png)
Have they recovered from the Astros visit?
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I think so, I'm friends with two of those guys.
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My autographed Steve Avery rookie card didn't pan out.....
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We should pair it up with my autographed baseball from Henry Blanco.
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Avery is a pretty cool dude. He can't throw much any more of course.
Two nights ago the Braves came back late to cover a 4 run deficit and win, last night they blew a 4-0 lead in the 9th.
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I hope Pirates fans aren't buying in. For their own sake.
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/36307953/shohei-ohtani-only-feet-short-hitting-historic-cycle (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/36307953/shohei-ohtani-only-feet-short-hitting-historic-cycle)
Ohtani came to bat in Thursday's eighth inning with a chance to become the first player in baseball history to hit for the cycle while also serving as that game's starting pitcher. He then drove the first pitch he saw into deep center field, bringing a sparse Angel Stadium crowd to its feet -- but Oakland Athletics center fielder Esteury Ruiz caught it right before crashing into the fence. It was a 389-foot out.
"It was off the end," Ohtani said through an interpreter, "so I knew it wasn't gone off the bat."
Despite allowing five runs, Ohtani scattered only three hits. It marked the 10th consecutive time Ohtani had allowed three hits or less, tying Jacob deGrom for the longest streak by a starting pitcher since the mound moved to its current distance in 1893, according to research from the Elias Sports Bureau.
Ohtani, who hit for the cycle in June 2019, would have become the first player since Jimmy Ryan of the Chicago White Stockings in 1888 to hit for the cycle during a game in which he also pitched. Ryan, though, started that game in center field and merely came in for relief. No player had accomplished the feat while also serving as a starting pitcher, an unsurprising circumstance given that Ohtani qualifies as the first two-way player since Babe Ruth.
Instead, Ohtani became the first player to strike out eight batters and hit a single, a double and a triple in the same game since Dave Danforth of the St. Louis Browns on Aug. 25, 1923. During his last four starts, Ohtani has contributed more hits himself (seven) than he has allowed to others (six), an unprecedented feat.
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I hope Pirates fans aren't buying in. For their own sake.
Buying in to what? Being a title contender? No. Actually having a team that can give them an entertaining summer? Yeah
And entertainment is fun
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At 18-8, the Pirates have been competitive so far. I don't see a reason why a fan wouldn't be more interested in them right now. It doesn't harm anyone to follow them and be excited a bit even if they fade down the stretch (or before the ASB).
"We" like a winner, generally. I did follow the Braves when they were so bad it was kind of entertaining on WTBS. There wasn't much else to watch, and I expected them to lose. Then one year they start winning and in a way it was too stressful to be fun.
Sid Bream and "The Slide" and all that.
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hey, if the Pirates make the playoffs, they've as good a chance to win it as any other playoff team
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The Tigers sweeping the Mets at home, just to go play a road game against a St. Louis team playing as poorly as I can ever remember that franchise, feels like a trap to get me re-engaged.
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In a rebuilding year (ie - payroll pause to reset penalties), the Dodgers still find themselves in first place a month into the season.
The DBacks can't win it and I have no earthly clue the Padres are doing.
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Right now, the Dodgers are like that player who told everyone he wasn't swinging at any pitches in spring training, but still got on base half the time.
They're not going to spend money, not bringing anyone special in at the deadline, and have basically freed up the reigns to the division, only for no one to take it.
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I mean they still have the 5th highest payroll. Granted the Angels are 6th. :57:
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Yeah, but in this year's marathon, the Dodgers didn't bother putting band-aids over their nipples.
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Yeah, but in this year's marathon, the Dodgers didn't bother putting band-aids over their nipples.
Trevor Bauer seems down with that
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Trevor Bauer seems down with that
I don't think he's going to bother learning Japanese.
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I don't think he's going to bother learning Japanese.
Maybe safe words
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Tigers with their second 5 game winning streak of the season, and yet are 5-17 outside of those two spurts
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I never realized how weird Wrigley was
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Yeah, the corners are deeper than left and right fields.
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Vida Blue has passed
RIP
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More Oakland As to Vegas posturing. This intersection of Las Vegas BLVD and Tropicana Ave where the aging Tropicana might be torn down for a new baseball stadium is famed for boasting the most hotel rooms in the world, accounting also for the New York/NY, MGM, and Excalibur.
https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1656135167583608834
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The Braves have had a lot of injuries to date, Fried is now out again for a while.
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One benefit to fast games early on is that Rocco Baldelli can't overthink how he uses his bullpen.
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Ruth was on base in front of him 40% of the time, minus those HRs.
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More Oakland As to Vegas posturing. This intersection of Las Vegas BLVD and Tropicana Ave where the aging Tropicana might be torn down for a new baseball stadium is famed for boasting the most hotel rooms in the world, accounting also for the New York/NY, MGM, and Excalibur.
https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1656135167583608834
I can't fathom the math that gets a team with a shit payroll to buy land on the Las Vegas strip AND building a stadium.
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Idk why Piazza gets shit on.
Everyone acknowledges him as the best offensive catcher.....yet he's never top 3 in these rankings, just because he wasn't good at throwing out runners.
All of the advanced stats say he was great at everything else a catcher does (blocking, pitch-framing, etc).
Add that to being an offensive MONSTER....and you get ranked behind guys like Carlton freakin' Fisk.
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Former Marlin, Mike Piazza. love thinking about that brief era.
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Idk why Piazza gets shit on.
Everyone acknowledges him as the best offensive catcher.....yet he's never top 3 in these rankings, just because he wasn't good at throwing out runners.
All of the advanced stats say he was great at everything else a catcher does (blocking, pitch-framing, etc).
Add that to being an offensive MONSTER....and you get ranked behind guys like Carlton freakin' Fisk.
Arguing with AI?
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When AI falls in line with the masses.
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When AI falls in line with the masses.
AI is just a product of the masses
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I've always kind of liked the JAWS rating, which averages your career WAR, with your 7 year peak WAR. It rewards longevity, but not as much as pure career WAR, because it demands you be great at your peak, without making that peak too short.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_C.shtml
Sort of confirms what most anyone would say, that Bench and Carter are 1-2. Piazza with a strong case for #3. His peak was better than anyone but those guys. He just falls behind Pudge and Fisk because he didn't play nearly as long.
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I can't fathom the math that gets a team with a shit payroll to buy land on the Las Vegas strip AND building a stadium.
And what are the hopes for fan attendance once/if the Athletics find themselves in Vegas?
For a guess look at the Diamondbacks latest homestand.
Weekend numbers look up, about 25k Vs the Nationals and Giants. Then on weeknights in Phoenix, attendance Vs the Marlins drops down to about 10k. I can see the weekend bringing in big numbers of visiting fans to Vegas before the weeknight numbers plunge without built-in hometown support.
As for the Athletics existing numbers, look at the horrific figures for Oakland's last two homegames (Vs the Diamondbacks). 2k & 3K are like high school numbers.
(https://i.imgur.com/g8nISBG.png)
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The problem with Oakland is that they also wanted enough land to build their own entertainment complex, and control the surrounding shops, restaurants and bars.
I'm assuming they got this here, so maybe the terrible attendance doesn't matter if they got public funding to run up their own bars, restaurants (and in this case casinos?) around the park
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The "secret" to having your team come from behind is apparently to give up and go to bed.
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The "secret" to having your team come from behind is apparently to give up and go to bed.
Last night the Cubs were ahead of the Astros 6 to 1 after 7 innings only to have the Astros score 6 runs in the last 2 innings and win the game 7 to 6
Yes I stopped watching after inning 6 but thats why I record the games.
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AI is just a product of the masses
If that's true, then it isn't very I.
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Yeah, the A's attendance the other night was lower than 11 of 13 AAA games.
That's what you get when you pull a U-haul out front.
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When and why did OPS become a thing?
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AI is just a product of the masses
Garbage in, garbage out.
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AI is supposed to evolve that garbage into something amazing, though. Otherwise, you're just describing one of those giant computers from the 70s predicting things incorrectly.
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When and why did OPS become a thing?
Like 20 years ago.....because getting on base is the best thing a batter can do and hitting for power is the 2nd-best thing he can do.
You'll be pleased to know OBP is about 3x more "important" than SLG, so a more accurate evaluation of a player's offensive worth would be (3*O)PS. But no one uses that.
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OPS+ is even better, as it takes into account context.
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btw, the Dodgers have "oopsied" into the best record in the NL.
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In Chicago this week. Will be at tonight’s Cubs homegame Vs the Mets.
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In Chicago this week. Will be at tonight’s Cubs homegame Vs the Mets.
have a dog and a beer on me
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In Chicago this week. Will be at tonight’s Cubs homegame Vs the Mets.
Cubs won 7-2 last night with Drew Smyly picking up the win to go 5-1.
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Gorgeous weather with temps right around 70F at first pitch. Seats behind the Cubs dugout.
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Guy one seat in front of us in the Swanson jersey caught a stray foul ball.
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Right outside stadium is very densely urban w/ lots of sports bars and the L Train stops in the distance.
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My fav baseball movie is Bull Durham, my favorite scene is when he says "Yeah, I've been in the show." and then talks about the difference between .250 and .300.
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The Braves' broadcast crew last night was:
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz
Larry Jones
Jeff Francouer (who is in the Georgia HS football HoF).
And they won in a walk off. Smoltz was talking pregame about how they had two top level starters going, and how many times does that result in a score like 13-11! Ha ha ha.
The final was 13-10.
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I could see this happening. I miss that kind of pitching. No clock required for this guy.
Ex-catcher says White Sox All-Star pitcher was ‘drunk’ during 2005 World Series appearance (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/ex-catcher-says-white-sox-all-star-pitcher-was-drunk-during-2005-world-series-appearance/ar-AA1cnBce?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d35ad09825bd4a4cb87fbbd0523bdd56&ei=16)
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49 years ago today, Nolan Ryan strikes out 19 batters, walks 10 and throws 235 pitches in 13 innings for the California Angels against the Boston Red Sox but settles for a no-decision.
The Angels eventually win 4-3 in 15 innings.
Luis Tiant pitches 14 1/3 innings for the Sox and takes the loss.
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I hope no one here is a Mets fan, otherwise we're all happy at least to see their attempt to buy a pennant so far flail badly.
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The Mets are the Mets. They can't help it. And it's hilarious.
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Per ESPN Stats & Info, "Shohei Ohtani has his 150th career MLB home run. He required the 4th-fewest games played (652) to reach 150 HR and 75 SB in MLB history, trailing only: Willie Mays (598), Jose Canseco (630) and Alex Rodriguez (646)."
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An Ohtani stat from a few days ago: has hit the most HRs in MLB and thrown the 2nd-most Ks. Simultaneously.
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An Ohtani stat from a few days ago: has hit the most HRs in MLB and thrown the 2nd-most Ks. Simultaneously.
The Angels are 246-286 with no postseason appearances since he got there.
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gotta have pitching
led the hapless Royals today 8-2
lost 10-9
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Vernon Wells: $126 million
Justin Upton: $106 million
Albert Pujols: $240 million
Josh Hamilton: $125 million
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They signed several other ordinary players to bloated contracts after rogue-wave All-Star appearances (Matthews Jr, Cozart).
Also, they seemed incapable of signing anyone who was in their prime and actually performed. You could argue Wells and Upton were bad luck, but it's as if a guy wasn't even on their radar unless he was 30+ and his best was obviously behind him. As if Artie Moreno thought everyone aged like Barry Bonds, lol.
And who could've predicted a former addict would do poorly after getting paid 100 millon bucks?!?
AND none of the above are pitchers, lol. That's the position you fear most with injury risk, but oh well.
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I figured the Braves would hit a soft spot with all the injuries, and they may yet of course, but so far, not. They seem to have pitchers in the minors who step in and do well.
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X-Golf Ambassador Paige Spiranac joined us to throw out tonight’s first pitch!
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Twins spit up 3 of 4 to the Tigers at home. Rocco's seat is getting warm.
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Twins spit up 3 of 4 to the Tigers at home. Rocco's seat is getting warm.
I think three's a heat wave in the AL Central under those seats.
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Attended yesterday's Athletics home game Vs the Phillies.
After hearing all season how small Oakland's home crowds have been, yesterday drew their third largest crowd of the season, only behind Opening Day and last Tuesday's Reverse Boycott. When I realized by the 4th inning this was most likely because of Father's Day - plenty of families were in attendance - that was when I remembered to call my Dad to wish him happy Father's Day.
Halfway through our call, Oakland fans broke out in chants of "Sell The Team! Sell The Team!" Dad, overhearing, naturally asked for an explanation. My Dad is from Poland and has never taken to following pro sports. So with a mix of fluent English and broken Polish I tried explaining how nobody within a square mile of me likes this guy named John Fisher thanks to his plans to move Oakland's baseball team to Las Vegas.
"But," my Dad asks, "isn't everybody who can leaving California for places like Vegas?"
On that note, I've never seen a more graffiti-ed city than Oakland California.
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I think three's a heat wave in the AL Central under those seats.
Yup. If the Twinkies were anywhere else, they're 12 games back in the loss column and were discussing how the Pohlads are going to gut the team at the deadline.
That said, Rocco's extension two weeks ago looks an awful lot like the Dreaded Vote of Confidence.
Speaking of the AL Central...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GtImIqR5neU&feature=share9
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24-0 7th inning score not very common.
Three games in the 1880s are comparable but that's it. 28-0 being the largest shutout in professional baseball history.
Well, 25-1 it is.
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Feels like a blown save, lol.
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well, the Halos aren't dead last in the AL west
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The Dodgers are taking a year off to reset the luxury tax. In 2024 they'll be back big time.
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didn't think it was possible to score 25 runs with only 5 HRs
Halos were playing small ball and proved it still works
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The Reds are good
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The Braves and Reds played six times this season, every game was a one run decision.
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Ohtani is pretty other worldly. Babe Ruth?
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yup, Ruth's first 5 seasons with the BoSox
Yanks took away the pitching
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ANAHEIM, Calif. -- — Shohei Ohtani hit the longest home run of his major league career and became the ninth player to reach 30 homers in a season by July 1. Yet, it wasn't enough to overcome Lourdes Gurriel Jr.'s grand slam in the second inning as the Arizona Diamondbacks defeated the Los Angeles Angels 6-2 Friday night.
The two-way superstar from Japan drove a slider from left-hander Tommy Henry 493 feet to right field in the sixth inning to get the Angels within 5-1. It was the longest home run in the majors this year.
Ohtani became the first player since Baltimore’s Chris Davis in 2013 to hit 30 homers by the end of June. Davis had 31.
Babe Ruth, Ken Griffey Jr. and Sammy Sosa each did it twice. The others are Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Luis Gonzalez and Albert Pujols. Bonds had 39 by July 1 in 2001 en route to setting the single-season record with 73.
Ohtani hit 15 home runs in June. Besides being an Angels record for the most in any month, he tied Babe Ruth (1930 Yankees), Bob Johnson (1934 A’s) and Roger Maris (1961 Yankees) for the AL mark in June.
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Ohtani has to be juicing ...;)
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1992 starting rotation:
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Diamondbacks game last night. Vs the Mets. Took a group of 11 of us. Arizona could not have had a more miserable showing. Their pitcher giving up back to back home runs. The batting order only managing 4 hits Vs the Mets 17. A 9-0 loss made all the worse by Corbin Carroll exiting the game in the 7th inning with a shoulder injury. The Diamondbacks have lost 4 straight and the Dodgers are quickly closing in on their division lead.
At one point the benches cleared late in the game:
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I went to 'new' Yankee Stadium for the first time this past week (or YS III as my friends and I like to say). These comments are not novel or original; 1. Why did they build a lame replica of YS I/II? 2. I've been to most of the post Camden Yards era new ballparks, and it kind of seems built on the cheap. That said, really nice club lounge (A/C great plus on a hot evening) with superb service. Downright hilarious to see the efforts by the ushers to police the moat around home plate area.
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On this date in 1985, Nolan Ryan becomes the first pitcher to record 4,000 career Ks.
https://youtu.be/fIOAXOpiHJo
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Shohei Ohtani's Angels era is reportedly expected to come to an end, but not necessarily his time in Los Angeles.
According to the L.A. Times, the Dodgers are the clear favorites to land the MVP frontrunner, who recently said that it "sucks to lose" as the Halos continue to struggle.
Per the Times: "One rival team executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because tampering rules forbid him from discussing prospective free agents on other teams, was willing to bet a sushi dinner on the Dodgers. Three other executives echoed that it's the Dodgers and then everyone else. Multiple agents, granted anonymity to speak freely, agreed."
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Sweet!
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I will cheer against any team that tries to outright buy a pennant (Mets). My pitching coach said Ohtani will sign for north of $600 million.
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so, the Dodgers are playing the Orioles on TBS
meanwhile, the Diamondbacks are playing at the Braves with no TV coverage
WTF??
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You all should be playing the Immaculate Grid. fun online game.
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a quick google search claims there's an NFL Immaculate Grid
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Sports Reference bought the game quickly and then created versions for other sports.
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Why Was This Ball Called Fair in New York? | Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League (https://www.closecallsports.com/2023/07/why-was-this-ball-called-fair-in-new.html?fbclid=IwAR3WpqnFw6IrP8SucCY6_s3vZOLsnjguGvpS9vyND8HZt8JQgkFEubOc9KE)
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An odd thing about soccer, if a ball is kicked in the air on a curve and goes OB, in the air, and comes back in, it's ruled out of bounds even if it lands fair. The position of a player playing the ball is not relevant, the player can be OB and touch the ball on the line, and it's still in play.
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Why Was This Ball Called Fair in New York? | Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League (https://www.closecallsports.com/2023/07/why-was-this-ball-called-fair-in-new.html?fbclid=IwAR3WpqnFw6IrP8SucCY6_s3vZOLsnjguGvpS9vyND8HZt8JQgkFEubOc9KE)
I always thought its the spot of the ball touching the ground that determines fair or faul
This is saying even though the ball touches the ground in faul territory part of the ball was over fair territory when touched by the fielder so its a fair ball
Thats a first for me
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Imagine a fly ball just clips the foul pole, it's a home run.
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I always thought its the spot of the ball touching the ground that determines fair or faul
This is saying even though the ball touches the ground in faul territory part of the ball was over fair territory when touched by the fielder so its a fair ball
Thats a first for me
If any part of the ball is over any part of the foul line at the time of first touch, or if the ball touches the base, it's a fair ball.
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Imagine a fly ball just clips the foul pole, it's a home run.
because the foul pole is in fair territory
the label is incorrect
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The idiot got thrown out at 2nd anyway. Sheesh.
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Padres game last night. For as praised as Petco Park is one feature that goes almost unmentioned is the standing room viewing, wrapping almost all the way around the field to include Gallagher Square's hills in the outfield. I usually buy the cheapest tickets and take advantage of the standing room views unless my buddies want to sit for a while.
As for the Padres, they finally beat the Pirates after five tries since late June. In fact, the Padres have been the ONLY team they've had any success against since a ten game losing streak starting in mid-June. They've lost every series since, except those against San Diego. Rubber match is tonight.
The Padres improved to 49-53 last night, a thus far disappointing season that, given the batting order and the money invested into pitching, all falls on the players.
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Good crowd, the pitch clock seems to be working.
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Good crowd, the pitch clock seems to be working.
The pitch clock is the best thing to happen to baseball in my lifetime.
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so, the Halos decide to keep Ohtani and try to make the playoffs today
Ohtani goes 0-5 with 2 Ks at the plate, but..........
complete game shutout 1 hitter with 8 Ks on the mound
2nd game of the double header........... Ohtani at the plate hits his 37th - a 2-run shot
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so, the Halos decide to keep Ohtani and try to make the playoffs today
Ohtani goes 0-5 with 2 Ks at the plate, but..........
complete game shutout 1 hitter with 8 Ks on the mound
2nd game of the double header........... Ohtani at the plate hits his 37th - a 2-run shot
Isnt this the last season of his contract?
If hes not traded dont the Angels stand a chance of getting nothing for him
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yup, Ohtani will be a free agent in the offseason. Even though the franchise risks losing the 29-year-old slugger and starting pitcher on an open market where he could command $500 million, it is motivated to make its first playoff appearance in his six major league seasons.
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yup, Ohtani will be a free agent in the offseason. Even though the franchise risks losing the 29-year-old slugger and starting pitcher on an open market where he could command $500 million, it is motivated to make its first playoff appearance in his six major league seasons.
they are 3 and 1/2 out of a WC spot so its not a given
they might end up not in playoffs and nothing for their free agents
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seems Arte Moreno wants to resign Ohtani
Guy is obviously putting butts in the seats
and LA is a pretty good place for a Japanese player
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The Mets have just traded J Verlander to the Astros
Verlander has a 1.92 ERA in his last 7 starts
so this couldnt hurt
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The problem is that the Angels are 3 games out of the WC amidst teams far better than them. IMHO they should trade Ohtani and get something for him. Him and Trout are the only players on that team that's worth more than a bucket of batting practice balls.
Speaking of teams that should be gutted out at the deadline, the Twins should be cleaning house after that pathetic performance in Kansas City this weekend. They're only getting in because the Central has 4 of the worst 6 teams in the AL. Don't count on the Twins 18-game postseason losing streak to end.
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Angels gonna Angel.
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Valdez throws a no no against Cleveland
Only lefty to ever throw a no hitter for the Astros
This is the Astros 16th no hitter
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The Angels are thinking if they get Trout back they would be dangerous.
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A thing MLB does better than most is nicknames, I think.
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Nolan Ryan once threw 235 pitches in a game and made his next start against the Yankees on just three days’ rest.
In 1974, Ryan struck out 19 Red Sox hitters over 13 innings in the California Angels' 4-3, 15-inning victory at the Big A. But the most astonishing stat from Ryan’s outing might be his pitch count: 235, according to accounts from the game.
This was the second of Ryan’s three 19-strikeout performances in 1974, a season in which he finished with 367 strikeouts - 16 shy of the all-time record he set the year before. Ryan finished with a no-decision and didn’t even log the most innings by any pitcher in Anaheim that day: His opponent, Luis Tiant, went 14 1/3 innings before surrendering Denny Doyle’s walk-off double in the bottom of the 15th.
But Ryan’s mammoth effort didn’t do him any worse for wear. He made his next start against the Yankees (six scoreless innings) on just three days’ rest and finished the season with 26 complete games.
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MLB executives on how to beat the Atlanta Braves - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38283725/mlb-executives-how-beat-atlanta-braves-2023-playoffs-postseason)
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Aside what whoever wins the AL Central, every team except the Giants is either really damn good, or really damn fun, or both. If Arizona, Cincinnati or Miami can overtake SF, I think I will be as in on these playoffs as I've been without a horse in the race
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I had lunch with my coach last Thursday. He was a first round pick, pitcher of course, had a somewhat injury prone MLB career. He was musing back to his start in pro ball, right out of HS. He said the first time he threw on the side in rookie league about 30 other players came up to watch. He's 18/19 years old at that point. He got traded to the Braves for various reasons and told me it was AA ball where the talent started to be fairly serious. Before that, players were often just over matched. At the AAA level, everyone was quite good, some players had "holes in their swing" etc. But nearly everyone could hit well if you made a mistake.
I've heard some say it's a bit easier to hit in the majors because the pitches would be around the plate, while in the minors a lot of pitchers could throw hard but with sparing control. My coach said everyone in the majors is looking for a fastball to hit, they would usually sit on that, and adjust if you hung a breaking pitch.
He said Tony Gwynn was unreal, he'd hit the best pitch anyone threw him. He said their approach was to throw it done the middle and confuse him.
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The Tigers can't even cobble together a starting rotation, while the Dodgers are going to finish we ith the 2nd best record in baseball with 2/5 of their expected rotation banned from baseball, and a third trying to come back from TJ
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The Braves have 23 divisional titles and only 2 WS championships.
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The Braves have 23 divisional titles and only 2 WS championships.
Where are you getting this dubious data. The Braves have won four World Series and 18 NL pennants, 8 of those prior to the WS era which began in 1903. Braves history in both Boston and Milwaukee is still longer than Atlanta.
Unless you're only counting Atlanta which then would be two ws, six pennants and 23 divisional titles.
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The Braves have 23 divisional titles and only 2 WS championships.
Sounds like Michigan football.
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Where are you getting this dubious data. The Braves have won four World Series and 18 NL pennants, 8 of those prior to the WS era which began in 1903. Braves history in both Boston and Milwaukee is still longer than Atlanta.
Unless you're only counting Atlanta which then would be two ws, six pennants and 23 divisional titles.
Yeah, I meant two WS coming from the divisional titles. I should have been more specific.
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I have this notion the Braves are going to set a lot of regular season records and get eliminated in the NLCS.
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I think Kyle Tucker is the most underrated player in the league
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I have this notion the Braves are going to set a lot of regular season records and get eliminated in the NLCS.
Wouldn't be an MLB postseason in the bloated era w/o somebody going home early
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I have this notion the Braves are going to set a lot of regular season records and get eliminated in the NLCS.
Welcome to my world the last decade.
It's a coin flip.
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Throwing a foul ball back into play at a player, is dumb. But for the TBS announcer to say that that 17-year-old should never come to another baseball game for his life is even dumber.
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Wouldn't be an MLB postseason in the bloated era w/o somebody going home early
At least they're getting there. Before the bloated age, a 100+ win Dodgers team would be in line for elimination tomorrow, and 3 of the 4 LCS teams would already be locked in.
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Lest we have a pennant race. Pick your poison. Giants win 103 games in '93 and stay home. Or we flip coins and let the 87 win Astros have a chance.
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On w the tournament.
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Lest we have a pennant race. Pick your poison. Giants win 103 games in '93 and stay home. Or we flip coins and let the 87 win Astros have a chance.
I'll never understand wanting a more inclusive postseason in any sport, especially baseball. Total sellout for the causal fan. No interest in determining the best team.
Baseball is special in that it literally created the World Series to see which "best team" from each league was actually better, and it was a best-of-9 series.
Now we have barely-over .500 teams in short series duking it out. It's a joke.
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Because it's entertainment? We aren't solving world hunger here.
Granted I've always said to end the regular season at Labor Day, and then set a ladder bracket from there. The bottom 2 teams play a best of 3 at the home site of the better team, and the winner advances, and plays the next team up, and so on
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But it's only entertaining if it's great baseball.
There's a reason MLB averages 30K fans per game, AAA 4K, and college something like 1K.
The more 85 win teams you allow into the playoffs, the worse your average champ is going to be. Over time, that matters.
The better the teams are in the end, the better competition it is, and that's what makes it entertaining.
Interleague play, expanded playoffs, etc are to get more fans, not to improve the competition on the field.
I'm not saying it should be far at either end of the competition vs entertainment spectrum, but EVERY change has it going one way.
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I mean, I've never heard of any fan care less because their team only won 90 games. MLB still has the most restrictive playoff
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A lack of anecdotal evidence isn't really a good support for anything.
The longest regular season should have the most restrictive playoff.
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Again, nobody is arguing about the best method of determining a champion.
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Just got back from Terry Francona's last home game as
Guardians Indians Manager as they beat the Reds 4-3. Bieber got the win,beautiful evening 70ish,Cleveland drew 1,834,000 fans this year
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Again, nobody is arguing about the best method of determining a champion.
But it's tied to the entertainment-competition sliding scale.
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but, but, but...........
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I'm not saying it should be far at either end of the competition vs entertainment spectrum, but EVERY change has it going one way.
I think everyone here understands that, understood it long ago, and knows it's because of money.
At least the best record now gets you home field (so long as you win each series).
I know HFA is of substance in CFB, I don't know about baseball, it's a thing to be in your own dugout etc. Does the crowd aid in baseball performance?
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I was musing how certain events divisible by ten seem to carry more cache than otherwise. This 40/70 thing is a thing, OK, got it, but is it not about as good at 39/69? Now we have a 40/70 club, of one. And we do this with say 500 HRs of course, or batting over .300, or .400.
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We're apes.
It's cool to finally see someone approach Rickey Henderson/Eric Davis numbers.
Henderson went 28 HR, 87 SB for the Yankees in 86. That's sick.
Davis' famous season was in 86 as well (27 HR, 80 SB) in under 500 PAs. Followed it up with 37 HR, 50 SB, but '87 was a rogue wave of offense (freakin' Boggs hit 24 HRs that year).
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Davis' '86 season is famous with baseball nerds and guess what it got him? A 12th-place finish in MVP voting. What in the actual fuck?
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Fun with end points.
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The MVP thing depends a lot on who else is having a year. Mark Olson would be a strong contender in some years, 54 HR, 137 RBI, .282. The BA is a bit low.
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If this were 1987 Olson would win based on voters drooling over RBIs and the like. Bet he finishes 3rd this year
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Is BA even cornsidered these daze?
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The more recent MVP batters usually have a BA above .300.
It's a factor, even if they talk other metrics like OPS in which BA/OBP are parts.
A walk broadly is not as good as a hit.
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A walk isn't as good as a hit, but it's a lot better than an out.
OBP is much more useful than BA, as it's not hit vs walk, but hits & walks vs just hits.
Here's a fun stat: the MLB leader in walks this year is hitting .197 for the season. What sense does that make?
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Here's a fun stat: the MLB leader in walks this year is hitting .197 for the season. What sense does that make?
He's not looking to swing the bat
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So, all 12 playoff spots are decided. Really all that matters is whether the Rangers or Astros win the AL West, because that's the difference between a bye, and home field in the ALDS, or having to win 2 of 3 in Tampa.
Just looking back at the prior 8 and 10 team formats in the 6 division era
10 TEAM
- Astros and Blue Jays tied for the final AL Wildcard spot, but Astros could potentially still win the West, setting up a potential playoff between the Blue Jays and whoever doesn't win the West
- Marlins and Diamondbacks tied for the final NL wildcard spot going into the last day
8 TEAM
- Same as 12 team, all that matters is who wins the AL West, but whoever doesn't, goes home
- Everything already settled. Phillies have the Wildcard
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American League
Wild-card round: (6) Astros* at (3) Twins*, (5) Blue Jays* at (4) Rays*
ALDS: Twins/Astros vs. (2) Rangers*, Rays/Blue Jays vs. (1) Orioles*
National League
Wild-card round: (6) D-backs* at (3) Brewers*, (5) Marlins* at (4) Phillies*
NLDS: Brewers/D-backs vs. (2) Dodgers*, Phillies/Marlins vs. (1) Braves*
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Tony Gwynn and Rod Carew 6,149 hits 15 batting titles
(https://i.imgur.com/ubdyabB.png)
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He's not looking to swing the bat
Then throw strikes.
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American League
Wild-card round: (6) Astros* at (3) Twins*, (5) Blue Jays* at (4) Rays*
ALDS: Twins/Astros vs. (2) Rangers*, Rays/Blue Jays vs. (1) Orioles*
National League
Wild-card round: (6) D-backs* at (3) Brewers*, (5) Marlins* at (4) Phillies*
NLDS: Brewers/D-backs vs. (2) Dodgers*, Phillies/Marlins vs. (1) Braves*
wrong
Tuesday, Oct. 3
Game 1: No. 3 Brewers vs. No. 6 Diamondbacks (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 1: No. 4 Phillies vs. No. 5 Marlins (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 1: No. 3 Twins vs. No. 6 Blue Jays (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 1: No. 4 Rays vs. No. 5 Rangers (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Wednesday, Oct. 4
Game 2: Brewers vs. Diamondbacks (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 2: Phillies vs. Marlins (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 2: Twins vs. Blue Jays (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 2: Rays vs. Rangers (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Thursday, Oct. 5
Game 3*: Brewers vs. Diamondbacks (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 3*: Phillies vs. Marlins (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 3*: Twins vs. Blue Jays (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
Game 3*: Rays vs. Rangers (ABC/ESPN/ESPN2)
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Then throw strikes.
Too many pitchers are dependent on getting swings and misses out of the zone
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I blame Vlad Sr.
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Guy ruined a Ben Sheets perfecto, by clubbing a ball out of the dirt.
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I blame Vlad Sr.
Nah, he actually hit them.
I blame converting pitchers to throwers. If you can get through 18 batters,.you are a starter. Everyone else is a specialist. And they come out throwing 98. Every hitter has to be ready to face 3-4 pitchers a game, all of whom throw as hard as.possible, knowing they are only there for a minute
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Maddux says he was throwing 94-65 when he started in pro ball, I had not known that. Pete Smith tells me he was a thrower before his injury and surgery and had to learn to pitch then. When he came up to the Braves, the pitching coach gave him a week to learn to throw a change up.
Then he taught me how to throw a circle change and I've gotten pretty decent at it. My problem is I change speeds from about 60-65 to about 50-55.
Spencer Strider is a definite thrower though he has a nice slider, but no dependable change.
Two of the best pitchers of our time threw 90-91, changed speeds, and located, and Tony Gwynn hit them anyway.
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Tony Gwynn hit everybody
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He should be in the HoF.
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he's not???
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Of cousre he is.
(https://i.imgur.com/VARfxQr.png)
This guy might be some day if he stays healthy. He's hitting lead off.
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https://twitter.com/nut_history/status/1708597643377623344?s=20
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My playoff picks
WILDCARD SERIES
- #3 Twins d. #6 Blue Jays in 3
- #5 Rangers d. #4 Rays in 3
- #6 Diamondbacks d. #3 Brewers in 2
- #5 Marlins d. #4 Phillies in 3
DIVISIONAL SERIES
- #5 Rangers d. #1 Orioles in 6
- #3 Twins d. #2 Astros in 6
- #1 Braves d. #5 Marlins in 5
- #2 Dodgers d. #6 Diamondbacks in 6
CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
- #3 Twins d. #5 Rangers in 7
- #1 Braves d. #2 Dodgers in 7
WORLD SERIES
- Atlanta Braves d. Minnesota Twins in 5
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Brandon Woodruff a scratch for series. Not helping.
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My playoff picks
WILDCARD SERIES
- #3 Twins d. #6 Blue Jays in 3
- #5 Rangers d. #4 Rays in 3
- #6 Diamondbacks d. #3 Brewers in 2
- #5 Marlins d. #4 Phillies in 3
DIVISIONAL SERIES
- #5 Rangers d. #1 Orioles in 6
- #3 Twins d. #2 Astros in 6
- #1 Braves d. #5 Marlins in 5
- #2 Dodgers d. #6 Diamondbacks in 6
CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
- #3 Twins d. #5 Rangers in 7
- #1 Braves d. #2 Dodgers in 7
WORLD SERIES
- Atlanta Braves d. Minnesota Twins in 5
no love for the Astros even with home field advantage
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My playoff picks
WILDCARD SERIES
- #3 Twins d. #6 Blue Jays in 3
- #5 Rangers d. #4 Rays in 3
- #6 Diamondbacks d. #3 Brewers in 2
- #5 Marlins d. #4 Phillies in 3
DIVISIONAL SERIES
- #5 Rangers d. #1 Orioles in 6
- #3 Twins d. #2 Astros in 6
- #1 Braves d. #5 Marlins in 5
- #2 Dodgers d. #6 Diamondbacks in 6
CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
- #3 Twins d. #5 Rangers in 7
- #1 Braves d. #2 Dodgers in 7
WORLD SERIES
- Atlanta Braves d. Minnesota Twins in 5
You have way too much faith in the Twins to even win a game, much less a series.
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I used to RELISH the regular season's end, just to get my hands on the final season stats. Just a few years ago, actually.
Now, something else takes up all my nerdy sports numbers time. At least it makes money. Before, I was nerding out for free!
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You have way too much faith in the Twins to even win a game, much less a series.
I'll believe it when I see it
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The Twins current postseason losing streak is L18, and it dates to 2004.
Since that time, MSP pro teams not named the Lynx or the Vikings have advanced exactly two playoff rounds since then. Both of those advances ended by getting shelled in the second round by the Blackhawks.
So color me pessimistic.
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when did the Phillies get good?
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FF missed last year's WS
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yep
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Can we at least agree that the value of having four playoff games in one day is to line them up better? Why are these games not at like 1, 4, 7, 10
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when did the Phillies get good?
I don't even think they are. The $400 million Mets fell on their faces and save for the Dodgers, the Central and West divisions suck.
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Can we at least agree that the value of having four playoff games in one day is to line them up better? Why are these games not at like 1, 4, 7, 10
and not only that while you are watching 1 and recording another the one you are watching keeps telling you the current score of the one you are recording which is bullshit
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I struggle to view Evan Longoria as a grizzled veteran
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I still stand by expanding to 8, with no divisions. But these games are all in a row, with no days off, with all games hosted by the higher seed. The lower seeded team always needs to win 4, but the higher seeded team just needs to win the number of games pursuant to their seed. So the #1 seed needs to win 1, #2 seed 2, and so on
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and not only that while you are watching 1 and recording another the one you are watching keeps telling you the current score of the one you are recording which is bullshit
I don't mind a subtle but not wide gap. I think one rationale for this set up, not going to start a game locally at 9pm.
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19K fans yesterday.
(https://i.imgur.com/XHJsO5e.jpg)
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tuesday day game?
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Perfect time for retired folks.
A good seat for $185.00. A cheap seat for $75.00.
Not perfect for fixed-income folks in a period of high inflation.
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Major league baseball has no business in Florida.
There. I said it.
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$150/seat for a couple retired folks living on SS is a bit high
even $75, with parking, transportation, a hot dog & a beer
I'd wait for the next round and a night game
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agreed
I couldn't root for Miami and I dislike the Phillies
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Lowest attended postseason game since the 1919 World Series apparently
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Major league baseball has no business in Florida.
There. I said it.
I would agree.
Now, the spring training stuff is great. All of the games around here mostly sell out. Especially the Red Sox.
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I would agree.
Now, the spring training stuff is great. All of the games around here mostly sell out. Especially the Red Sox.
Spring training is fine, most games there outdraw the Rays and Marlins together.
Fort Myers in February when Minnesota and Boston are hip deep in snow? Absolutely.
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Come on down. I'll go to a Twinkies game or two with you.
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My parents are begging to try and get the grandkids down there for a Red Sox spring training game
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My parents are begging to try and get the grandkids down there for a Red Sox spring training game
Those are not cheap tickets, as you can imagine.
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Those are not cheap tickets, as you can imagine.
No, that's why they want to try and lock in dates early. They are down there longer and longer each year.
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Where are they? Fort Myers?
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Come on down. I'll go to a Twinkies game or two with you.
The closest I'm coming to you is Destin in January. My FIL's family mostly lives around there. I also know that's about as far from you as one can get while still in Florida.
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The closest I'm coming to you is Destin in January. My FIL's family mostly lives around there. I also know that's about as far from you as one can get while still in Florida.
Well, you're halfway here at least.
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Where are they? Fort Myers?
Yep
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Cactus>Grapefruit.
Very few deals left in spring training.
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Cactus>Grapefruit.
Very few deals left in spring training.
From my understanding, the cactus League is both more tightly concentrated, and in nicer stadiums. The grapefruit League is dependent on nostalgia. But for me, Florida is closer, and I have a free place to stay
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Played it out on OOTP, and the Braves beat the Astros in 6 to win the title. But it's rarely that predictable
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That also has to go down as the worst round of playoffs in any American sport ever. 4 2-0 sweeps, no 1 run games,.only 6 of 8 decided by 2 runs
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Yet it was played in less than 32 hours so I won't complain too much. Nba first round takes 2+ weeks .
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NBA playoffs are in tight competition with college basketball's regular season for the most unwatchable individual sports games on the planet.
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NBA playoffs are in tight competition with college basketball's regular season for the most unwatchable individual sports games on the planet.
Wait, but you are on board with the NBA regular season?
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How many people showed up in St. Pete yesterday?
That team should move to Orlando. Maybe. Or to some place that really wants a team.
Charlotte??
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How many people showed up in St. Pete yesterday?
That team should move to Orlando. Maybe. Or to some place that really wants a team.
Charlotte??
They just approved a new stadium, staying in St. Pete
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They just approved a new stadium, staying in St. Pete
I know - but I thought it was in Tampa this time??
They should rescind the stadium. Let them move.
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I know - but I thought it was in Tampa this time??
They should rescind the stadium. Let them move.
Looks to be in the same area
(https://i.imgur.com/9siXzhy.jpg)
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I thought they were looking at Ybor City. Shows you how much I follow.
I still have a "Florida White Sox" hat that I bought in 1988 while on my "honeymoon" (first wife) in Clearwater. They thought they had them on the hook and then the IL governor swept in at the 11th hour to keep them in Chicago.
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There's some St. Petersburg Giants gear around too.
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The Rays are in St. Pete. Good to hear they're getting a new ballpark. It better have a retractable roof, with all the rain.
Tampa sites made sense because there's room there. Pinellas county is something like 99.7% developed already. There's almost literally no undeveloped land on the peninsula.
Tampa's fanbase problem has to do with the fact that half of baseball fans there are Yankees fans. NYY has held spring training in Tampa for 25+ years. It's a few hundred yards from the Bucs' stadium and across the street from a strip club. To be fair, everything in Tampa is across the street from a strip club.
Those ladies must make a pretty penny in March every year.
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The Rays are in St. Pete. Good to hear they're getting a new ballpark. It better have a retractable roof, with all the rain.
I think it's fully enclosed again. You think they are going to pony up for the retractable roof?
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Astros controlled that whole game except for Hector Neris
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMuellerPGH/status/1710821205769326820?t=yCdqaUAkNgNNC6kEKWObYg&s=19
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(https://media.tenor.com/DluhpUwlqnIAAAAC/shit-thebed.gif)
Clayton Kershaw tonight.
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So in light of his video, are the Dodgers going to immediately reinstate Bauer, with back pay?
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The Dodgers are fine. They're like 5% less likely to win the series now. Arizona can win 20-0, it's still just 1 game.
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So only 45% likely to win?
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Exactly, actually. Somewhere in that 45-55% range. Phils shut out the Braves today. It's an utter coin flip.
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that's baseball
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Looks like we finally have a series where both teams have a win. 14 games in
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(https://i.imgur.com/yD6ENyI.png)
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About to vastly increase.
Joe Mauer, David Price, Stephen Strasburg (?), Bryce Harper, Gerrit Cole, Carlos Correa(?), Adley Rutschman (long way to go)
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Acuna if he stays healthy. Max Fried?
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Joe Mauer might make it onto the HoF ballot, but the only way he gets into Cooperstown is if he buys a ticket.
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Braves fans want Dale Murphy to get in, and Andruw Jones.
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Acuna if he stays healthy. Max Fried?
Were either of those guys #1 picks?
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Joe Mauer might make it onto the HoF ballot, but the only way he gets into Cooperstown is if he buys a ticket.
I would bet he gets in
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At some point there will be on overcorrection on 3B and C getting in. There will be a 2-3 year floodgate for them, and then it'll be back to normal.
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We're getting close already.
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Braves with a comeback win to beat Philly, and a hell of a double play to end the game.
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I love Magic Johnson flying back and forth from Dodgers games to Commanders games, Tweeting like a.bot
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I got frustrated watching the inept Braves last night, so we went to the local tavern for dinner. It was quiet night, not many folks out for some reason, Monday etc. They had the game on, I could hardly believe it. It reminded me of the UGA-OSU game where I went to bad start of the 4th figuring it was done.
So, that's my gig now.
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Great calls by tbs PBP Brian Anderson late innings last night. I'm a big homer of his due to his day job doing primary TV PBP for the Brewers, but he's the best in the biz on the national calls.
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I got frustrated watching the inept Braves last night, so we went to the local tavern for dinner. It was quiet night, not many folks out for some reason, Monday etc. They had the game on, I could hardly believe it. It reminded me of the UGA-OSU game where I went to bad start of the 4th figuring it was done.
So, that's my gig now.
Did you at least get back to watch the ending?
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We got back, and I went to the head, and my wife started screaming, so I finished and saw the replay. (The bar is next door, and pretty decent.)
At least I wasn't completely asleep.
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I saw 3 managers in a row remove the dominant starter. DBacks did it last night, Phiillies did it and lost, and someone else did it, I can't remember.
A lot of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" being thrown out the window.
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The NL "champ" will have finished either 14 games back in their DIVISION or 16 games back.
What is the fucking point?
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you may need therapy
the playoff crowns a playoff champ
the reg season crowns a reg season champ
they are different
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There's no such thing as a regular season champ in baseball.
And I'm sorry if I'm incredulous, but having a 162-game season only to whittle it down to a best-of-5 or 7 series is plainly stupid.
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There's no such thing as a regular season champ in baseball.
And I'm sorry if I'm incredulous, but having a 162-game season only to whittle it down to a best-of-5 or 7 series is plainly stupid.
If team A cant win at least 4 out of 7 games against team B they lose and its been that way for over 100 years
Not sure what would make you happy short of just declaring the Dodgers as champions for winning more games during the reg season
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obviously, the Dodgers and Braves are not built for the playoffs ;)
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If team A cant win at least 4 out of 7 games against team B they lose and its been that way for over 100 years
Not sure what would make you happy short of just declaring the Dodgers as champions for winning more games during the reg season
How long something has been in place is irrelevant.
Also, for the first 68 years, there were 2 leagues that didn't play each other and no divisions. So to correct your statement, it's only been this way for like 55 years.
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What would make me happy? Not rewarding mediocrity.
Divisions are a thing, so be it.
Division champions should face off to determine the league champ. Simple.
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Having teams that finished 15 games back in your playoff is sheer obliviousness and is solely for money. Throw competition out the window. Entertainment only.
There is ZERO interest in the champion being the best team.
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I simply don't see the point of that.
If this isn't the appropriate place to share that, then what is? lol
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obviously, the Dodgers and Braves are not built for the playoffs ;)
How dare you! :96::57:
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How long something has been in place is irrelevant.
Also, for the first 68 years, there were 2 leagues that didn't play each other and no divisions. So to correct your statement, it's only been this way for like 55 years.
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What would make me happy? Not rewarding mediocrity.
Divisions are a thing, so be it.
Division champions should face off to determine the league champ. Simple.
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Having teams that finished 15 games back in your playoff is sheer obliviousness and is solely for money. Throw competition out the window. Entertainment only.
There is ZERO interest in the champion being the best team.
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I simply don't see the point of that.
If this isn't the appropriate place to share that, then what is? lol
I would like the wc teams reduced to 1 in each league
While we are at it lets get rid of the time clock bs on the pitcher and batter and the starting a runner on 2nd base in extra inning games
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I like the pace-of-play changes. A 2.5 hour baseball game is better than a 4 hour baseball game.
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I like the pace-of-play changes. A 2.5 hour baseball game is better than a 4 hour baseball game.
the 2023 average time is 24 min shorter then the 2022 time
not enough to make me want it
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I'm old school but like the shorter games
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Shorter games ARE old school. Games were barely 2 hours back before lights were a thing. They had to get the game in before the sun went down.
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up, well aware
easy before the creation of batting gloves w/velcro
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Yeah, all the timing rules do is get the game back to how it was always played.
I like all of the other changes they made this year (larger bases, pickoff limits, shift restrictions)
I don't like the Manfred Man/zombie runner though. That, like the 7 inning DH, was a COVID rule when there were no real minor leagues, so you couldn't really adjust your roster on the fly after having to burn your entire pitching staff with 18+ innings in a day. There is no reason to keep it.
Same way I feel about college football, even before they made everything after the first 2 OTs a 2pt contest. Once you change the game fundamentally that much, just to declare a winner,.I'd rather just have ties.
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He led the league in ERA one year with an 8-16 W-L record.
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Same way I feel about college football, even before they made everything after the first 2 OTs a 2pt contest. Once you change the game fundamentally that much, just to declare a winner,.I'd rather just have ties.
I haven't really thought about overtime rules. What they have in place right now is genuinely bizarre. It's like something you tinker with little by little until it's just crap.
My idea to fix it would be for tie games to have 1 OT. Both teams get the ball, like now. But the idea is the team that gets the ball 2nd has to go for the win.
SO, if:
Team A doesn't score, Team B wins with any score. If Team B fails to score, it's a tie.
Team A kicks a FG, Team B has to go for a TD when they have the ball. No ties.
Team A scores a TD + XP*, Team B has to score a TD and must go for 2. No ties.
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So the only way a game can end in a tie is if both teams poop the bed. That's like kissing your sister, right? They'd have patheticked their way to a tie.
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*Team A cannot go for two. They can earn their win by not allowing a TD to Team B or denying their 2-pt conversion.
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Having teams that finished 15 games back in your playoff is sheer obliviousness and is solely for money. Throw competition out the window. Entertainment only.
There is ZERO interest in the champion being the best team.
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I simply don't see the point of that.
If this isn't the appropriate place to share that, then what is? lol
Psst. Don’t tell anybody, but it’s all for entertainment.
Carry on.
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It is, but up to a point.
The competition aspect is vital, as it's what draws the best players to the field. Trotting out a fat 50 year old would be entertaining, in a #failarmy kind of way, but he'd suck and not help his team win.
Sports viewing is generally correlated with mastery and skill of the athletes. pro attendance > college attendance > women's sports, etc.
Athletes are drawn to sports to show how good they are, win games, and find out who is best.
The more we screw around with that, the riskier it gets.
I could see professional sports as we know it falling off a cliff 20 years from now, having sold out on entertainment and eschewing actual competition.
I don't think it's LIKELY, but the intro in the movie BASEketball could easily happen. We're in a post-truth, 9-second attention span world and baseball with football safeties taking people out or basketball requiring 1 woman on the court at all times is possible. Anything that gets 1 more click or like is a possibility.
While it's far-fetched and unlikely and perhaps silly to talk about, how would it start?
Players making more money pitching products than pitching baseballs.
Kids getting paid millions before taking a snap.
Teams finishing a distant 2nd (or 3rd) place, but being crowned champions.
A season-ending conference championship outcome being irrelevant.
Losses in a short regular season lacking any consequence in the polls.
And so on and so on.
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I've been umpiring softball for a long time, and we've started extras in non-HS ball with the last runner due up on 2nd. That doesn't bother me.
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It is, but up to a point.
the point is $$$ = entertainment
deserves has nothing to do with it
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If you made me Commissioner, I'd abolish divisions, but keep the AL (with a DH) and the NL (without one). No crossover games.
Top 8 from each league would make the playoffs. The higher seeded team would host all games. The lower seeded team would always have to win 4. But the higher seeded team would have to win 1, 2, 3 or 4, based on their seed. So...
AMERICAN
- #8 Yankees at #1 Orioles (Yankees would have to win 4 in a row)
- #7 Twins at #2 Rays (Twins would have to win 4 of 5)
- #6 Mariners at #3 Astros (Mariners would have to win 4 of 6)
- #5 Blue Jays at #4 Rangers (true best of 7)
NATIONAL
- #8 Reds at #1 Braves (Reds would have to win 4 in a row)
- #7 Cubs at #2 Dodgers (Cubs would have to win 4 of 5)
- #6 Diamondbacks at #3 Brewers (Diamondbacks would have to win 4 of 6)
- #5 Marlins at #4 Phillies (true best of 7)
I think that would keep fan bases involved, while still valuing the regular season, better than it does now. And I'm sorry, no matter how great you were for 162 games, if you lose 4 straight playoff home games, against the 8th best team in your league, you deserve nothing
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I like the current playoff system divisions and all
just lower the number of wild card teams to 1 from each league
everybody plays a home and home 7 game series with home field advantage decided by season w/l record and or head to head if necessary
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If you aren't going to have unbalanced schedules, there no reason for divisions
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If you aren't going to have unbalanced schedules, there no reason for divisions
you have divisions for increased fan interest
which has more fan appeal being overall 3rd in your league or being a division leader
and you would play division teams more then non division teams with some scattering of playing teams from the other league
all to increase fan appeal
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Yes, rewarding mediocrity.
YOU get a playoff spot!
And YOU get a playoff spot!
Fuckin' Oprah over here.
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Yes, rewarding mediocrity.
YOU get a playoff spot!
And YOU get a playoff spot!
Fuckin' Oprah over here.
I dont consider it rewarding mediocrity to allow division winners plus 1 wc team to play for a league title
their positions are well earned
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I can't help but feel like the same people who say if you don't win your division in college football you don't deserve a chance at a NC are the same ones advocating for wild-card spots in MLB.
At least be consistent. The moment you allow a 2nd-place team into your playoff, you're rewarding mediocrity.
At least college football's short season allows for some uncertainty, right? Why bother with 162 games if you're just going to let everyone with a .500 record in your playoff in 3 and 5-game series???
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I can't help but feel like the same people who say if you don't win your division in college football you don't deserve a chance at a NC are the same ones advocating for wild-card spots in MLB.
At least be consistent. The moment you allow a 2nd-place team into your playoff, you're rewarding mediocrity.
At least college football's short season allows for some uncertainty, right? Why bother with 162 games if you're just going to let everyone with a .500 record in your playoff in 3 and 5-game series???
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4 out of 15 teams is not allowing just any 500 team in the playoffs in MLB
as far as college football is concerned I feel if a team has lost to a playoff team during the regular season they should not be in the playoff unless they play a 2nd time and win like a ccg
if a team with 1 loss did not win its conference but did not lose to another playoff team during the season they could be considered for the playoff
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Have to get Valdez out of there. He's a mess
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https://twitter.com/BaseballQuotes1/status/1713908853979418951?t=BBkVsX_6W57tL2844Mvrhw&s=19
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she's toast.
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She deserves what they will do to her in jail
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Looks like we might finally have a good series this fall!
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That video is from 2011. Hopefully that kid went to therapy and is well past this now.
Did not know Kris Jenner was an Astros fan tho.
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I will say, postseason baseball is compelling. Baseball is the one sport where games affect each other due to pitching, so series make way more sense and aren't obvious money grabs. But man, it's too bad they hide the best stuff in October while football is going on.
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Juicy game tonight.
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Juicy game tonight.
I enjoyed it but have to admit had given this one up
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Are the Astros allowed to decline going back to Houston for Game 6?
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8 in a row in Arlington?
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Are the Astros allowed to decline going back to Houston for Game 6?
no but they might get lucky ya just never know
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Finally,.an all around fun baseball.night this postseason
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and, not that there's any doubt about it, Brian Anderson >>>>> Joe Davis on the PBP.
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My oldest daughter can't get over how often A. Garcia is up to bat for Texas. He's been an awesome menace.
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Two game sevens is cool.
Bye-bye ASStros
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Two game sevens is cool.
Bye-bye ASStros
Yes. Granted the one tonight was over early.
Hopefully tomorrow night is better
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Good example of a series being memorable despite a dud game 7. Though Garcia has been memorable.
Btw: first ever game 7 involving the Phillies.
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Good example of a series being memorable despite a dud game 7. Though Garcia has been memorable.
Btw: first ever game 7 involving the Phillies.
Cardinals beat the Tigers once 11-0 in a WS Game 7. So it could be worse
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Are the Astros allowed to decline going back to Houston for Game 6?
They should've declined the game entirely.
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Cardinals beat the Tigers once 11-0 in a WS Game 7. So it could be worse
That game is infamous for the bottles, trash and food thrown at the Cardinals.
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That game is infamous for the bottles, trash and food thrown at the Cardinals.
Meaning not enough of them?
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https://youtu.be/7CGNUlY43_s?si=am_hbedjHPwgyRM1
See for yourself
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It's a low level staffer, and mere video evidence. Doesn't prove anything
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I am closing in on watching an entire baseball game
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Rangers-DBacks, as expected.
Can we get a location on SDF?
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Rewarding mediocrity.
20 fucking games back.
Champions my dick.
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A sort of good thing about this, and I believe the Dodgers are already doing this, is that it puts a kind of restrictor plate on team spending.
The Mets are the Mets and obviously haven't discovered anything about anything.
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Follow me here - if you believe that each short-series in the postseason truly is a coin-flip (and it is), then building a team to win 100+ games is superfluous. It's waste. Stupid. Overkill.
Don't do it.
The Dodgers won 100 games this year, but they were a very imperfect team and I"m not sure how in the hell they won 100. Every pitcher hurt, no big add at the deadline, etc....just happened to win 100.
Teams should limit their spending and just get into the postseason with 84-87 wins. Owners should LOVE this.
No more bloated contracts. No more reaches for guys 2 years too late. IF GMs are smart. IF.
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the problem with your theory is that a team has to first make it to the playoffs to get any reward
for a team to make it to the playoffs they have to win 92 to 95 games on average
you cant win that many games without a pretty good roster
last year the Astros won 106 games and won it all
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the problem with your theory is that a team has to first make it to the playoffs to get any reward
for a team to make it to the playoffs they have to win 92 to 95 games on average
you cant win that many games without a pretty good roster
last year the Astros won 106 games and won it all
Number of wins of playoff teams the past 5 years:
84, 84, 87, 86, 90, covid sub-.500, 89, .......here, that doesn't even matter, we have 3rd-place teams getting to the postseason.
And I'd even say all of this is fine, except for the fact that they play 162 games. The most games of any professional sport, by far, and thus the most statistically significant.....and then they're taking that and throwing it out the window.
Why bother with 162 games!?!? If you're going to negate your own significance, what's the fucking point?!?
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can you get into the playoffs winning under 90 games sure but its not the norm
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can you get into the playoffs winning under 90 games sure but its not the norm
90 games in a vacuum is decent, but when it's behind a 105-game winning team, it's crap.
Inclusivity in a playoff to determine a champion is stupid, no matter the sport.
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90 games in a vacuum is decent, but when it's behind a 105-game winning team, it's crap.
Inclusivity in a playoff to determine a champion is stupid, no matter the sport.
Its not pure inclusivity due to the better teams givin byes and home field advantage
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I'd guess the team winning 105 games has about a 60-40 shot at winning a 5 game series. I think there is a problem with the former team having too many off days.
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My Phoenix buddies are looking into Diamondbacks home tickets for the World Series. My guess was the nose-bleeds at Chase Field would start at $350. Turns out its $600 but dropping. My max limit for a ticket, any ticket across all sports and events, is $800. Only broke this rule once.
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Its not pure inclusivity due to the better teams givin byes and home field advantage
I don't think I typed "pure inclusivity" because that's a stupid phrase.
The more teams you let in, the more inclusive it is.
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I don't think I typed "pure inclusivity" because that's a stupid phrase.
The more teams you let in, the more inclusive it is.
it also means included under the same conditions of play
thats not the case here
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it also means included under the same conditions of play
thats not the case here
A bye in baseball isn't necessarily a good thing. HFA is also negligible in baseball. 51-54% or so.
The point is, just get in and you have as good a chance as anyone else. Of the 4 best teams this year, 3 didn't make the LCSs.
What you thought mattered and helped higher seeds doesn't move the needle much at all.
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A bye in baseball isn't necessarily a good thing. HFA is also negligible in baseball. 51-54% or so.
The point is, just get in and you have as good a chance as anyone else. Of the 4 best teams this year, 3 didn't make the LCSs.
What you thought mattered and helped higher seeds doesn't move the needle much at all.
it didnt this year
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I think the bye is a detriment. I recall reading something after the Giants beat the Tigers in the 2012 World Series that since the start of the LCS in 1969, when the World Series competitors had a 2+ game difference in games played in the LCS, the team that had to play more games had a winning record.
I think a bye, particularly now, with a Best of 3 is detrimental. If you are going to do it, change the schedule. TV would throw a fit, but start the DS the day after the WC series ends. Flexing for it going 2 games or 3.
I think my 16 team playoff proposal helps, but I have an even more extreme option, that they would never accept
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Give me 4 divisions that never play each other and you have an LCS and a WS. Done.
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I don't fret about scenarios that simply are not going to happen, except maybe casually a few times, it's a waste of mental energy. And I don't have much left.
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Rangers draw 1st blood Carter doubles to center scoring Seager ,now Carter just scores Garcia singles him Home 😎
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Welp all knotted up
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snakes right back at em
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entertaining so far
sipping a Yuengling
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Wasn't it like as recently as 10 years ago that there would be no Sunday night football during the World Series? Now they have to start playing on Friday night, and use Sunday as a travel game
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well, snakes are a lock.
2 stolen bases
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Tv hated having ws start game 1 on Saturday, that's why it changed. Of course it could end on a Saturday.
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DaFuq Taveras get the bat off your shoulder on a 78mph pitch
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Nice job Garcia
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C'mon Rangers can't come up goose eggs there
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I like the Rangers' home jersey. Nice subtle update to the mid/late 80s look. Meanwhile Arizona continues to have the worst looks in the bigs. I don't think there's one set/combo that I like.
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They're looking good on the scoreboard and could count for something
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Go to take a leak and just like that I miss it
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Seager and Garcia are must see TV. Meanwhile, and i haven't watched much Texas pen i'm not feeling it w LeClerc this post season. He's a guy i'd be stressed about watching as a Rangers' fan.
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Around the horn - that's one thing that's great - the Defense in the post season
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I like the Rangers' home jersey. Nice subtle update to the mid/late 80s look. Meanwhile Arizona continues to have the worst looks in the bigs. I don't think there's one set/combo that I like.
Their turquoise-accented jerseys are nice.
Maroon and grey isn't great, but they try with turquoise and desert tan.
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Go to take a leak and just like that I miss it
Throwing Seager anything other than a slider down and in is unconscionable. There's a phantom zone in his swing more severe than the Bermuda triangle. Been that way his whole career.
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I almost forgot what extra innings baseball without a runner starting on second base was like
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Garcia goes Yard - after he got hit in the the wrist in the 7th I believe - great game Rangers 1-0 in the Fall Classic
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Fun game. Rangers are just a fun team to watch
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Nice, competitive game between 2 good teams.
Not championship caliber, but good teams.
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Brian McCann must be fuming watching Garcia have so much fun.
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Umps need robot help.
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Certain ones do, but the other night the ump was 1 pitch away from a perfect game called.
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Good point. A matter of time it would appear.
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Barnstorming like I've never seen.
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Dbacks spectators in their own game tonight.
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6 no-hit innings and it didn't matter, lol.
Yeeesh
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Optimistic that the Rangers have inspired more middling teams to just go for it. MLB is better if all teams are trying to win. Astros/Cubs model ruined the sport for people who enjoy the regular season
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Yeah, their way (HOU, CHC) is one of many optimal acts in baseball that make the game worse.
Teams should completely abandon trying to win 95+ games or winning their division, just spend the minimum amount they determine will get them to 85 wins and then just see what happens.
If they're smart.
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Optimistic that the Rangers have inspired more middling teams to just go for it. MLB is better if all teams are trying to win. Astros/Cubs model ruined the sport for people who enjoy the regular season
not sure what you mean
how did Astros/Cubs ruin the sport for people who enjoy the regular season
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not sure what you mean
how did Astros/Cubs ruin the sport for people who enjoy the regular season
They tanked on purpose for multiple seasons in order to draft high and accrue talent for an eventual run.
Not fun for your fans when you're purposely tanking over multiple seasons.
Remember when the Cubs won the WS and were going to be a dynasty? lol
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They tanked on purpose for multiple seasons in order to draft high and accrue talent for an eventual run.
Not fun for your fans when you're purposely tanking over multiple seasons.
Remember when the Cubs won the WS and were going to be a dynasty? lol
no they should have followed the example set annually by the Dodgers
play a strong reg season and then tank in the playoffs
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I answer your question accurately and that's what you post.
'Bout right.
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truth hurts sometimes dont it
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Basically, where people might have labeled the Braves' 1 WS title in a 14-year run of division titles as being a big choke job, it's actually just more evidence that the postseason is a series of coinflips.
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truth hurts sometimes dont it
It doesn't hurt at all. You're a baby kitten.
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It doesn't hurt at all. You're a baby kitten.
at least I stay away from sour grapes
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No, no, they're talking wine on another thread.
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fitting as hell
the stRangers won more reg season games than the Dbacks, correct?
better team won the series
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Wife is a Rangers fan, so she's happy. That can only benefit me. Best of all there will be no game 7 Saturday night interfering with the footballz.
My cousin's kid goes to a private school in Houston where one of her classmate's is Eovaldi's son. I saw some photos on FB where all the kids and parents were sporting "Eovaldi 17" jerseys and had made a bunch of posters in support of him and the Rangers. All I could think of was how rough that had to be on a bunch of people I know are Astros fans.
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Wife is a Rangers fan, so she's happy. That can only benefit me. Best of all there will be no game 7 Saturday night interfering with the footballz.
My cousin's kid goes to a private school in Houston where one of her classmate's is Eovaldi's son. I saw some photos on FB where all the kids and parents were sporting "Eovaldi 17" jerseys and had made a bunch of posters in support of him and the Rangers. All I could think of was how rough that had to be on a bunch of people I know are Astros fans.
the Astros will be back next year stronger then ever
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the Astros will be back next year stronger then ever
They have a new way to cheat?
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They have a new way to cheat?
nope wont need to
Just sit back and watch the Dodgers fall apart again and you losing your mind over it
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nope wont need to
Just sit back and watch the Dodgers fall apart again and you losing your mind over it
I don't lose my mind over it, it's just a bizarre combination of a long regular season and insanely small sample size in the postseason.
It's not prudent.
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I don't lose my mind over it,
Eh....might as well, I say. It is sports fandom after all.
You know that Fansville commercial this year where they're all melting down and going crazy and the sheriff finally says settle down, it's the first play of the game? That more or less describes me internally every time we miss a tackle, fumble, etc.
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Yeah, I try not to watch Gators games around other people (much easier here in AZ, lol). I don't want to chit-chat, don't want to be distracted, and don't want other people to see my reactions.
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nothing to be proud of Rusty
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I might go check out the AZ Fall League All-Star game tomorrow.
They are an oddity - it's as if they want to stay hidden and anonymous. These are top-flight prospects clustered together on 6-8 teams or so. But there's ZERO local advertising, 99% of games are at noon, and even the All-Star and championship games have to be sought out just to know they're happening.
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Fall league is great. You're right it is not advertised. I've heard the pitchers aren't great lately but its such a cool place to see elite talent with like no fans at all.
Nobody hustles for foul balls in the seats.
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Y'all should come to a Fantasy Camp if you want to see ... "elite talent". Some of the wives qualify anyway.
We had one guy last year go yard, which is impressive. I was told he a couple years out of college ball. Most of the pitching strives to reach 60 mph on the FBs.
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Woah, Tigers swipe Jason Benetti from the White Sox. Went from arguably the worst television PBP guy among local broadcasts, to arguably the best.
Benetti is a lifelong white Sox fan. Ownership needs to sell that team, nobody wants to work there
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After leading the American League in total bases and runs scored, Twins shortstop Zoilo Versalles became the first Latin MVP in MLB history on this date in 1965, receiving 19 of 20 first-place votes.
Fellow Cuban Tony Oliva came in second, after winning his second-straight batting title.
In this photo, American League president (and Hall of Fame player) Joe Cronin presents Versalles with his MVP Award and Tony Oliva a Silver Bat between games of a double header on June 16, 1966. Versalles—in a suit—missed 13 games with a blood clot on his back and what the Associated Press describes as a torn shoulder muscle.
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Bill James REALLY doesn't think much of that MVP vote, lol. He mentions it in his writing often.
I don't think it's anything against Versalles, as his production was there. Leading the league in total bases is legit. Maybe less so when you lead the majors in plate appearances, though. Led MLB in striking out as well.
The only 2 players with a similar WAR were pitchers. No hitters had any kind of big power season, either.
There are many more severe MVP votes than that one. Not sure why James feels the way he does. Possibly that it was 1 vote away from being unanimous?
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He felt teammate tony O was more deserving
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And if Gwynn came back from dead he'd need to do better than 400-400 to eclipse Cobb.
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And if Gwynn came back from dead he'd need to do better than 400-400 to eclipse Cobb.
I was taught growing up that Al Kaline better be your hero, and hang your head when you talk about Cobb. The fact that one sportswriter decided to make up a character to sell books, and somehow that is Cobb, and has been handed down for generations.
We should start a list here of baseball books,.or maybe just sports books
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And if Gwynn came back from dead he'd need to do better than 400-400 to eclipse Cobb.
someone on FB posted under that pic::::
and if Gwynn came back he'd have to go 1,000-1,000 to reach Pete's number of hits
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There is no draft lottery that Cleveland teams can't win
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My favorite "if so-and-so..." in baseball history is Ted Williams' career with no war interruptions.
He actually hit .344 with 2654 hits, 521 HR, 1839 RBI
He's 75th all-time in hits, 20th in HR, and 14th in RBI.
With average (for him) seasons instead of going to war:
.342 with 3452 hits, 663 HR, 2380 RBI.
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So in hits he'd move up from 75th to 7th.
In HR, up from 20th to 5th.
And in RBI, from 14th to 1st.
And those would be his rankings NOW, not when he retired.
At his time of retirement, had he not served:
3rd all-time in hits
2nd in HR
1st in RBI
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He'd actually have been in Babe Ruth territory, and with more volume.
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Woah, Soto to the Yankees?
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Woah, Soto to the Yankees?
LOL @ the Padres.
Soto!
Tatis Jr!
Machado!
Darvish!
Bogaerts!
We're gonna win the West!!!
82-80
Genuine red-headed stepchild. Mets West.
What a joke franchise.
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perhaps the Dodgers are built for the playoffs now
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yawn. would've loved to see him in Toronto
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perhaps the Dodgers are built for the playoffs now
This is the worst contract of all time, before it even begins.
The franchise that wins 100 games every year has taken the largest financial risk in the history of player acquisitions.
That, on its face, is dumb.
I'll never understand this.
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THe A-Holes in their Ivory Towers just think we're all somehow need games that are out of our financial reach.Love to see sports belly up and let new leagues reform and keep thing in balance and focus
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This is the worst contract of all time, before it even begins.
The franchise that wins 100 games every year has taken the largest financial risk in the history of player acquisitions.
That, on its face, is dumb.
I'll never understand this.
He is deferring $68 million of his $70 million every year of the deal.
So the Dodgers are just paying $2 million per year for now. And can keep adding players
In a decade, they will be paying tens of millions of dollars to a retired player, and he will be living somewhere where he isn't taxed at California rates on the bulk of that contract. People are wondering what the MLBPA thinks of this, I think the state governments are far more concerned
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He is deferring $68 million of his $70 million every year of the deal.
So the Dodgers are just paying $2 million per year for now. And can keep adding players
In a decade, they will be paying tens of millions of dollars to a retired player, and he will be living somewhere where he isn't taxed at California rates on the bulk of that contract. People are wondering what the MLBPA thinks of this, I think the state governments are far more concerned
Ken Griffey Jr. is the Red's second highest paid player
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Ken Griffey Jr. is the Red's second highest paid player
He might still be their second best player
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He is deferring $68 million of his $70 million every year of the deal.
So the Dodgers are just paying $2 million per year for now. And can keep adding players
In a decade, they will be paying tens hundreds of millions of dollars to a retired player, and he will be living somewhere where he isn't taxed at California rates on the bulk of that contract. People are wondering what the MLBPA thinks of this, I think the state governments are far more concerned
If they wind up paying him $700 million over any number of years, it's the worst contract ever.
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If they wind up paying him $700 million over any number of years, it's the worst contract ever.
I meant per year. But it's not my money, and there's no salary cap, so there's no way that any MLB contract is the worst contract ever.
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Tough to beat Stephen Strasburg for the worst contract ever. $245 million for 8 starts. They will be paying him through 2029.
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In a decade, they will be paying tens of millions of dollars to a retired player, and he will be living somewhere where he isn't taxed at California rates on the bulk of that contract.
Like Japan
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I thought the Dodgers were smarter than this.
I can no longer make fun of the Mets. Or Yankees.
So when Ohtani inevitably needs his 5th Tommy John surgery and can't hit lefties for shit, it's going to be pretty lame.
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Joe Mauer might make it onto the HoF ballot, but the only way he gets into Cooperstown is if he buys a ticket.
I would bet he gets in
Made it on his first ballot
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doesn't make it right
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But it makes me right, and that's all that matters!
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I read the writers wrong.
I'm having a hard time reconciling his killer performances while making the league minimum with 8 years of bilateral leg weakness after signing his deal.
I don't blame him for getting as much money as he could from the Pohlads. The winter he was up for free agency was the winter before Target Field opened. As such, he had the Pohlads over a barrel at the negotiating table. If he would have gotten away that winter the fanbase would have been in open rebellion moving into the new ballpark.
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Totally missed the Dodgers and Padres play a pair of regular season games tomorrow and Thursday morning
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the Dodgers suck
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https://twitter.com/nut_history/status/1770253596199665884?t=iNPehBEvEYs6tfWWBDbbeg&s=19
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I'll take Bob over Blake
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Cy young sniffs at that. Cy Young had 238 complete games in which he didn't earn a Win, out of his total 749 complete games.
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Cy young sniffs at that. Cy Young had 238 complete games in which he didn't earn a Win, out of his total 749 complete games.
Yeah, but hes dead, and Blake Snell isnt,. so...
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2024 picks
- Orioles
- Yankees
- Blue Jays
- Rays
- Red Sox
- Twins
- Tigers
- Guardians
- Royals
- White Sox
- Astros
- Rangers
- Mariners
- Angels
- Athletics
- Braves
- Phillies
- Marlins
- Mets
- Nationals
- Cubs
- Reds
- Cardinals
- Brewers
- Pirates
- Dodgers
- Diamondbacks
- Padres
- Giants
- Rockies
WILDCARD ROUND
- Astros d. Mariners
- Rangers d. Tigers
- Cubs d. Cardinals
- Phillies d. Reds
DIVISIONAL ROUND
- Orioles d. Rangers
- Astros d. Twins
- Dodgers d. Phillies
- Braves d. Cubs
CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND
- Orioles d. Astros
- Braves d. Dodgers
WORLD SERIES
- Atlanta Braves d. Baltimore Orioles
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Thanks for picking the Astros so high but we have pitching problems so I dont know
Right now we have two starters on injured reserve
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Thanks for picking the Astros so high but we have pitching problems so I dont know
Right now we have two starters on injured reserve
I still trust that lineup over 162 games. Granted if Texas actually gets a fullish, healthysh season out of Scherzer and deGrom, that would change things. But I'll believe that when I see it
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Happy Opening Day!
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Totally missed the Dodgers and Padres play a pair of regular season games tomorrow and Thursday morning
Yeah, I met a lot of Padres fans out in Seoul, they were interesting to talk with.
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Can’t remember when there's been less interest or anticipation for the Red Sox among their fans. Maybe not since the 90s? Franchise has gone Meh the last 5 years. Ticket prices way down. Fans remembering the past players more.
https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1770584645148832018
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In the past decade or so, they've finished in last place as often as not.
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In the past decade or so, they've finished in last place as often as not.
Theyve been oddly cheap in keeping their home grown talent. Betts and Bogaerts should be Red Sox
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Whatever they're doing, they've become irrelevant.
Anyway, LA's first "welcome to baseball" moment of the year - Mr Roboto Yamamoto goes 5 scoreless, just for a reliever to allow 5 runs and give the game away. Yay, bullpens!
Joe Kelly, the arrogant, bespectacled one. It doesn't matter if you can throw 100 mph if you suck.
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I think pitching is less variable than hitting, do you agree? if you have good pitching, it will more often be good relative to good hitting, which seems prone to slumps.
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Perhaps, Mr Roboto Yamamoto should have gone 6 or 7 scoreless
hell, I've heard of complete games by reading history
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I think pitching is less variable than hitting, do you agree? if you have good pitching, it will more often be good relative to good hitting, which seems prone to slumps.
With all the pitcher injuries, I don't even know how to answer the question.
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(https://i.imgur.com/aS9jfVJ.jpeg)
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Watching Jason Benetti call Opening Day for the White Sox...as the Tigers' announcer might be the biggest indictment of how poorly that franchise is run. I'll take this absolute gift, but man, the White Sox had one of the best announcers in any sport, calling games for the hometown team he grew up cheering for. And he gave up his dream job, not to even go work for New York or LA, but Detroit, because of how toxic that organization is
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Bryce Harper with a 3 HR, 6 RBI night
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The Dodgers are really good (duh).
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Kyle Higashioka just threw out 2 runners in the top of the inning, and then his a home run in the bottom.
Get the stats guys on finding out how many times that has happened.
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Probably Pudge Rodriguez.
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Very typical Byron Buxton.
https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1775293255908765808?t=tW_DJDSPUzwa7lOKhQDUTg&s=19
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Watching Jason Benetti call Opening Day for the White Sox...as the Tigers' announcer might be the biggest indictment of how poorly that franchise is run. I'll take this absolute gift, but man, the White Sox had one of the best announcers in any sport, calling games for the hometown team he grew up cheering for. And he gave up his dream job, not to even go work for New York or LA, but Detroit, because of how toxic that organization is
Jerry Reinsdorf needs to sell. The Bulls too.
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Sounds like the A’s will be holding over in Sacramento’s AA stadium until their new home in Las Vegas is ready. For the new site of their stadium, the Tropicana officially closed over the past weekend after 67 years.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1775902408696033572
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Angel Hernandez remains comically bad at his job
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Tigers move to 5-0. Their only 2 multi-run wins were in EI
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Angel Hernandez remains comically bad at his job
How is he still working?
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How is he still working?
Umpire union
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Golden shower vids of influential people.
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Down the street for last night's Padres game - decked out in a fake Chicago personality. Cubs 5 - Padres 1.
(https://i.imgur.com/85fqP6D.jpeg)
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The Braves lose their top ace for the year, Strider out with the UCL thingee.
I'm expecting a call soon.
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Top artist/last world series
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJEaiQkXUAE0siE?format=jpg&name=small)
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Travis D'Arnaud hit 3 HRs last night, including one Slam, his first homers of the season.
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maybe you won't get the call
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Yeah, I'm thinking not, they are on a winning streak without Spencer.
They could perhaps use a guy like me in garbage time ...
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Yeah, I'm thinking not, they are on a winning streak without Spencer.
They could perhaps use a guy like me in garbage time ...
And hell, you might even get an AB
https://youtu.be/HVpjWNfnHww?si=8UjlSPULu96EALJv
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Travis D'Arnaud hit 3 HRs last night, including one Slam, his first homers of the season.
I'm amazed he's still playing.
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My pitching coach told me I was probably hitting 60 mph, which would fool an MLB hitter for perhaps one pitch. Fortunately, I have a quasi-decent curve ball and a pretty decent changeup, believe it or not. And he got me throwing strikes a lot more consistently.
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