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Topic: ~2024 MLB Thread~

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #252 on: September 27, 2023, 09:41:11 PM »
A lack of anecdotal evidence isn't really a good support for anything.
The longest regular season should have the most restrictive playoff.
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #253 on: September 27, 2023, 09:52:25 PM »
Again, nobody is arguing about the best method of determining a champion.

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #254 on: September 27, 2023, 09:55:36 PM »
Just got back from Terry Francona's last home game as Guardians Indians Manager as they beat the Reds 4-3. Bieber got the win,beautiful evening 70ish,Cleveland drew 1,834,000  fans this year
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #255 on: September 27, 2023, 09:56:13 PM »
Again, nobody is arguing about the best method of determining a champion.
But it's tied to the entertainment-competition sliding scale.
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #256 on: September 27, 2023, 10:04:53 PM »
but, but, but...........
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #257 on: September 28, 2023, 08:03:53 AM »
I'm not saying it should be far at either end of the competition vs entertainment spectrum, but EVERY change has it going one way.
I think everyone here understands that, understood it long ago, and knows it's because of money.

At least the best record now gets you home field (so long as you win each series).

I know HFA is of substance in CFB, I don't know about baseball, it's a thing to be in your own dugout etc.  Does the crowd aid in baseball performance?


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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #258 on: September 28, 2023, 09:16:49 AM »
I was musing how certain events divisible by ten seem to carry more cache than otherwise.  This 40/70 thing is a thing, OK, got it, but is it not about as good at 39/69?  Now we have a 40/70 club, of one.  And we do this with say 500 HRs of course, or batting over .300, or .400.

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #259 on: September 28, 2023, 09:24:51 PM »
We're apes.  

It's cool to finally see someone approach Rickey Henderson/Eric Davis numbers.  

Henderson went 28 HR, 87 SB for the Yankees in 86.  That's sick.
Davis' famous season was in 86 as well (27 HR, 80 SB) in under 500 PAs.  Followed it up with 37 HR, 50 SB, but '87 was a rogue wave of offense (freakin' Boggs hit 24 HRs that year).
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #260 on: September 28, 2023, 09:26:11 PM »
Davis' '86 season is famous with baseball nerds and guess what it got him?  A 12th-place finish in MVP voting.  What in the actual fuck?
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #261 on: September 28, 2023, 10:08:50 PM »
Fun with end points.

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #262 on: September 30, 2023, 05:47:18 AM »
The MVP thing depends a lot on who else is having a year.  Mark Olson would be a strong contender in some years, 54 HR, 137 RBI, .282.  The BA is a bit low.


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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #263 on: September 30, 2023, 08:53:44 AM »
If this were 1987 Olson would win based on voters drooling over RBIs and the like.  Bet he finishes 3rd this year 

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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #264 on: September 30, 2023, 09:18:48 AM »
Is BA even cornsidered these daze?
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Re: 2023 MLB Thread
« Reply #265 on: September 30, 2023, 09:48:32 AM »
The more recent MVP batters usually have a BA above .300.

  It's a factor, even if they talk other metrics like OPS  in which BA/OBP are parts.

A walk broadly is not as good as a hit.

 

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