2023 Michigan State Season Thread

[847badgerfan]

Eh, he'll be 60 next year

He's gotta be grooming someone. Seems to be a "young" 60 too.

Andy Kotelnicki – Kansas Jayhawks (kuathletics.com)

[MrNubbz]

Evidently Tuck's goin'

[medinabuckeye1]

Yes, nobody ever drinks and goes ATVing.  And then it was on his own property.  Bad judgment, maybe?  We don't know if he was intoxicated, but not fireable, illegal, immoral or even newsworthy.

Please note that in my initial post on this I stated that it wouldn't prevent me from pursuing him if I were MSU.

I'll add that I think there was another "alcohol was involved" type incident with Hartline. 

I'm not saying that Hartline has an alcohol problem. What I would say is that if I were AD at MSU and considering signing him to a multi-million dollar contract, I think it would be negligent of me not to look into it and/or carefully word the contract to protect my employer. 

[MrNubbz]

Booger had one DUI 

[Abba]

Please note that in my initial post on this I stated that it wouldn't prevent me from pursuing him if I were MSU.

I'll add that I think there was another "alcohol was involved" type incident with Hartline.

I'm not saying that Hartline has an alcohol problem. What I would say is that if I were AD at MSU and considering signing him to a multi-million dollar contract, I think it would be negligent of me not to look into it and/or carefully word the contract to protect my employer.

He also strangely abandoned a vehicle on the highway while with the Dolphins in 2010.  Probably was up to no good there.

[medinabuckeye1]

He also strangely abandoned a vehicle on the highway while with the Dolphins in 2010.  Probably was up to no good there.

Could all be random unlucky coincidence but there is enough smoke that I'll stick to:

 if I were AD at MSU and considering signing him to a multi-million dollar contract, I think it would be negligent of me not to look into it and/or carefully word the contract to protect my employer.

[Mdot21]

Hartline's ATV incident isn't going to prevent him from getting the MSU job. His inexperience as an OC/play-caller and his lack of head coaching experience is going to prevent him from that. I think Hartline could be a great head coach some day, he's a proven high level ace recruiter and that's half the job- but he hasn't really cut his teeth yet. He just got the OC job this year and do we really think Ryan Day isn't heavily involved in that offense and play-calling?

MSU is a good job and the school has committed tons of resources to the program. They should be able to find someone that has some more HC or OC experience.

[Brutus Buckeye]

[bayareabadger]

That'll free up a lot of coin.

Go get Lance Leipold before it's too late.

Badge, don’t be giving them good ideas. 

[847badgerfan]

Heh. Yeah.

Never mind... He's too old.

[FearlessF]

you might want Lance in Madison in a couple years

[CatsbyAZ]

More fun from Valenti summing up what the aftermath of MSU’s blowout loss to Washington says about Mel Tuggy’s four years of program building:

“…Saturday is what FOUR years of building your program looked like. It was a Quarterback who should probably be playing at Central [Michigan] because he’s tiny. It was a MAC level O-line with a million dollar O-line coach. It’s no receivers I care about. It’s a defense where you have a couple of GRIFTERS as coordinators. Jay Johnson’s a BUM and Scottie Hazelton used the same game plan as last year when Michael Pennix murdered us…TWO TOP TWENTY paid coordinators who are straight up GRIFTERS, BAD ACTORS, CON MEN!”

“…What REALLY ANGERED me was losing is fine but you got to put the players in a position to have a chance. Jay Johnson you try to make your quarterback look like a BLEEP HOLE!”

“…Hazelton hit the POWERBALL of coaching because he has now had THREE straight secondaries that rank OUTSIDE the Top 100 in America and he’s still employed. There are no schematic changes, no technique, nothing.”

“…Mel Tucker, for those of you who called him a CON you were right all along because…this is what angered me Saturday…what he built in four years was nothing. It was a complete and utter MIRAGE. Nothing!”

“…EFF Mel Tucker!”

“…Tuck and his two coordinators are ALL TIME GRIFTERS…I’ll apologize to everybody who said it was only Kenneth Walker that did that for you. You were right!”


Jay Johnson and Scottie Hazelton sound AWFUL.

What was the point of increasing the dedicated assistant coaching budget if you were never going to go out and hire better coordinators than the drinking buddies Mel Tuggy brought over from his 5-7 season in Colorado?

Michigan State is lucky to cut themselves clean and clear of Mel Tuggy and his jesters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdnAS3q_Lpw

[847badgerfan]

Ouch.

[Temp430]

Who agreed to give Mel his 10 year $95 million contract?  They should resign or be fired as well.