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Topic: 2023 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #910 on: October 27, 2023, 10:58:01 AM »
My wife says it is because she is a story teller in her songs.
Yeah. She has a rather pedestrian singing voice, but she's an excellent songwriter. I really only know her older country stuff, not the newer stuff, but that's always been her claim to fame. She'll be writing a burner when she and Kelce split, I'm sure...

My 11yo daughter is in prime Swiftie mode right now. My wife is actually going to take her to the Swift concert movie next weekend (she--the 11yo--already saw it once with friends but one of my wife's adult friends wants to go and has nobody to go with, so the three of them are going together). 

IMHO this is one of those areas where it's about more than songwriting talent, however. I think to an extent Swifties are Swifties to fit in with all the other Swifties, i.e. literally every tween and teen girl that isn't goth. 

@utee94 what's your take? I know your daughter is older than mine... Not sure how big Swift is in that demographic?

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #911 on: October 27, 2023, 11:08:26 AM »
I really really like the idea of turning the Michigan thread into the Swiftie thread!!!!
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #912 on: October 27, 2023, 11:22:54 AM »
Yep.
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #913 on: October 27, 2023, 11:34:29 AM »
Yeah. She has a rather pedestrian singing voice, but she's an excellent songwriter. I really only know her older country stuff, not the newer stuff, but that's always been her claim to fame. She'll be writing a burner when she and Kelce split, I'm sure...

My 11yo daughter is in prime Swiftie mode right now. My wife is actually going to take her to the Swift concert movie next weekend (she--the 11yo--already saw it once with friends but one of my wife's adult friends wants to go and has nobody to go with, so the three of them are going together).

IMHO this is one of those areas where it's about more than songwriting talent, however. I think to an extent Swifties are Swifties to fit in with all the other Swifties, i.e. literally every tween and teen girl that isn't goth.

@utee94 what's your take? I know your daughter is older than mine... Not sure how big Swift is in that demographic?

My 16yo daughter likes Taylor Swift well enough, but I wouldn't classify her as a Swiftie.  She's a band nerd and so a little more eclectic in her musical tastes. She's more into small indy rock and alternative bands and singer/songwriter kind of stuff.  And of course she also still loves 80s music, because I raised her properly.

I do think a lot of those girls are just going along with the pop phenomenon, which is natural at that age.  I mean, that's why it's called "pop music" right?

My own personal take on Taylor Swift is a little different though.  Personally I don't find her singing voice to be "pedestrian" at all-- it's actually quite good.  And she's a fantastic songwriter.  More than that, she's an outstanding performer. I've actually been to a Taylor Swift concert-- she played during the United States Grand Prix at Circuit of the Americas back in 2016 I think.  As a performer she came across as sincere, charming, and relatable.  The only music of hers I knew at the time was some of her original country stuff, and she played some of that alone, either on her guitar or on the piano.  But even her huge pop numbers with a full band, came across as earnest and engaging.  

Honestly I put it in my top 5 shows I've ever attended, and living in Austin I've been to a LOT of shows.  I was completely blown away, which was totally unexpected.

Also, it doesn't hurt that she's pretty cute.



 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #914 on: October 27, 2023, 11:50:02 AM »
I could probably quote every single Swift song, I have heard them so many times.  If my wife starts the music playing in the house before I do, it is almost all Taylor Swift and John Mayer.  

If I get to it first it is classic rock. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #915 on: October 27, 2023, 11:50:32 AM »
Personally I don't find her singing voice to be "pedestrian" at all-- it's actually quite good.
Maybe I should better explain what I mean by "pedestrian". She's got a good voice. I don't think she could get to where she is if she didn't have a good voice. I'm not criticizing her ability to sing. She's talented.

But I just don't see anything particularly strong or unique about her singing voice. She's never going to be the vocal powerhouse of an Adele, Gaga, or Aguilera. She doesn't have a unique voice like an Amy Winehouse, Sia, Amy Lee, Dolores O'Riordan. 

She's got a good voice. She doesn't have a "special" one. 


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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #916 on: October 27, 2023, 12:05:02 PM »
Like Neil Young
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #917 on: October 27, 2023, 12:05:31 PM »
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #918 on: October 27, 2023, 12:06:45 PM »
Geddy Lee?
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #919 on: October 27, 2023, 12:13:23 PM »
What's the question?
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #920 on: October 27, 2023, 12:29:55 PM »
Maybe I should better explain what I mean by "pedestrian". She's got a good voice. I don't think she could get to where she is if she didn't have a good voice. I'm not criticizing her ability to sing. She's talented.

But I just don't see anything particularly strong or unique about her singing voice. She's never going to be the vocal powerhouse of an Adele, Gaga, or Aguilera. She doesn't have a unique voice like an Amy Winehouse, Sia, Amy Lee, Dolores O'Riordan.

She's got a good voice. She doesn't have a "special" one.



I guess?  I suppose I don't place as much emphasis on having a "special" voice as you do?  Because I like Taylor Swift's music about 1000X more than Adele, Gaga, and Aguilera. 

I did dig Amy Winehouse though.  Certainly a talented and unique singer and also a sad story.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #921 on: October 27, 2023, 12:38:33 PM »
I really liked Ella Fitzgerald back in the day.  I kinda like Bonnie Rae at times.  It's nearly all  classical around here now.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #922 on: October 27, 2023, 12:42:06 PM »
I guess?  I suppose I don't place as much emphasis on having a "special" voice as you do?  Because I like Taylor Swift's music about 1000X more than Adele, Gaga, and Aguilera.

I did dig Amy Winehouse though.  Certainly a talented and unique singer and also a sad story.
Yeah, I don't like much of Gaga or Aguilera's music in general... Not my genre. I think they've got amazing voices tho. Obv I am a big fan of Adele. 

Again, this is not a criticism of Swift. There are some artists who are famous largely because of their voice, like Adele. There are other artists who are famous because of the music, or the songwriting, or the performing, or perhaps a combination of all of that, like Swift. 

I was responding to "why is Swift so popular" and saying that a huge portion of it was her songwriting. When people talk about Taylor Swift, that's usually the first thing they talk about.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #923 on: October 27, 2023, 12:44:29 PM »
Why is beta so negative on Swift?  He must really hate her.

 

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