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Topic: 2023 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #645 on: October 24, 2023, 08:27:18 PM »
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38736903/michigan-staffer-bought-tickets-non-big-ten-games
Source: Jim Tressel set up fake jobs to pay his players in order to land the top recruits in the nation in order to win a national championship. Per a source, Tressel only connected the players with high end donors that owned their own companies and could make the jobs look real. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #646 on: October 24, 2023, 08:38:53 PM »
Source: Jim Tressel set up fake jobs to pay his players in order to land the top recruits in the nation in order to win a national championship. Per a source, Tressel only connected the players with high end donors that owned their own companies and could make the jobs look real.
Source:   Bullshit.   

try as you might this is not about Ohio State.  This is about your team getting caught blatantly cheating.   You can deflect all you want but you’re going to have to internally deal with it.  
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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #647 on: October 24, 2023, 08:58:21 PM »
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38736903/michigan-staffer-bought-tickets-non-big-ten-games

ESPN claims sources at 12 of the other 13 B1G schools have records of Stalions buying tickets for non-M games. Also the last two SECCG's and other non-B1G games.

This includes four tOSU games, three in which Stalions bought tickets to non-tOSU stadiums across from the visitor's sideline when tOSU was visiting and the recent tOSU/PSU game to which Stalions bought tickets opposite both the tOSU and the PSU sidelines. 

I've hedged all my posts with the qualifier of "if the allegations are true" but the chances of ESPN making all of that up completely seem beyond remote at this point.

The attempt to deflect would be childish even if situations were comparable but they aren't. This is premeditated cheating by the Michigan staff on an insane scale.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2023, 09:07:00 PM by medinabuckeye1 »


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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #650 on: October 24, 2023, 10:12:29 PM »
And you guys wonder why shots are taken at OsU fans on this board. You continue to pile on and post random tweets from irrelevant people and articles about “sources.”

I would think a couple competent people would have learned their lesson about trustworthiness about media until all the facts come out. Clearly you didn’t learn your lesson since 2020.

If facts come out that rules were broken and there’s punishment, then reasonable Michigan fans will take it on the chin and move on. That being said, continuing to call people childish and deflectors because a few of you are acting like bitter adults shoving kids faces in the mud and some people want to actually wait for all the facts to play out while pointing out hypocrisy, then so be it.

When you say statements like “caught blatantly cheating” you simply sound like the emotional narrow minded of the world that convict people before hearing all the facts because the media told you too. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #651 on: October 24, 2023, 11:02:42 PM »
And you guys wonder why shots are taken at OsU fans on this board. You continue to pile on and post random tweets from irrelevant people and articles about “sources.”

I would think a couple competent people would have learned their lesson about trustworthiness about media until all the facts come out. Clearly you didn’t learn your lesson since 2020.

If facts come out that rules were broken and there’s punishment, then reasonable Michigan fans will take it on the chin and move on. That being said, continuing to call people childish and deflectors because a few of you are acting like bitter adults shoving kids faces in the mud and some people want to actually wait for all the facts to play out while pointing out hypocrisy, then so be it.

When you say statements like “caught blatantly cheating” you simply sound like the emotional narrow minded of the world that convict people before hearing all the facts because the media told you too.
I'm honestly not sure what your argument is here.

First, I've tried to hedge all my posts with "if these allegations are true" or words to that effect. If I skipped that in a post please forgive my oversight and consider this a blanket "if these allegations are true".

Second, that said, it appears to me that the evidence fairly overwhelming. From all appearances, a Michigan staffer paid for tickets in I think we are now up to close to 20 stadiums to scout and steal signs. This includes 12 of the other 13 B1G stadiums, two SECCG's, and several others.

Then we see the staffer who coordinated this standing next to the Michigan OC when Michigan is on offense and next to the Michigan DC when Michigan is on defense with Harbaugh's involvement.

Maybe this is all fake but at this point that seems highly unlikely.

If it is not fake this is premeditated cheating on an unprecedented scale.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #652 on: October 24, 2023, 11:38:30 PM »

https://twitter.com/Andy_Staples/status/1717000265704886690?t=iWsd5GOniDS8f6FW8bspmg&s=19
Tennessee fans are blushing, knowing that Michigan viewed them as a potential CFP opponent.

That MSU win over UM in 2021 actually becomes continuously more impressive.  Michigan is 0-2 when not being able to steal signals, since they started this cheating program.  But that is the one game where are the known opponent beat them.  

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #653 on: October 24, 2023, 11:49:55 PM »
Tennessee fans are blushing, knowing that Michigan viewed them as a potential CFP opponent.

That MSU win over UM in 2021 actually becomes continuously more impressive.  Michigan is 0-2 when not being able to steal signals, since they started this cheating program.  But that is the one game where are the known opponent beat them. 
I think it is 0-1 because Stalions bought tickets to the 2021 SECCG so they did steal UGA's. 

Allegedly.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #654 on: October 24, 2023, 11:53:34 PM »
I mean that's just a good game.. I can see why a rogue Michigan staffer on 50k a year would go watch that game on his own dime

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #656 on: October 25, 2023, 12:55:50 AM »
Cheer up, Buckeye fans.  Some of us just wish Michigan was interested in stealing our signals.  

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Re: 2023 Michigan Season Thread
« Reply #657 on: October 25, 2023, 06:44:05 AM »
I figure this is why Michigan played UGA so tough in the semis.

 

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