2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Honestbuckeye]

what's his record vs Ryan Cooper when born on 3rd base is coaching a team comprised of his players and not Urbs' players?

You mean Ryan Day, the current best winning percentage among active coacheddagainst rank teams?   Versus cheater cheater, booger eater, who hasn’t won a fucking thing yet.  What’s his record against rank teams? What’s his bowl record? What’s his record in college football playoff?

Stop slurping the cheater dude.  It is very unbecoming.

[MrNubbz]

pic is of a low-level Ohio State staffer who apparently might've been doing the same thing this Stallions fellow was doing...

If you want to walk it back i never made a comment regarding stealing signs - haven't read one link. But the fights and and UZI Smith -  take the wins off the board - lying and lack of institutional control - or reinstate Ohio State's in 2011. Can't have it both ways

[Honestbuckeye]

I’m not deflecting. I’ll be the first to say, I believe they were stealing signs. Did they do it in a gray area? Sounds like it. Im betting that Stalions was sending people to games so it wasn’t actually staff going, which is the gray area. In my opinion, it’s a dated rule. Technology today and 1994 look nothing alike and the rule needs to be revisited, if anything for clarity, which will also bring in the conversation about using technology in helmets to avoid this without garbage excuses of warranties on helmets, when high school programs are even using them and im guessing high school programs done bring in the revenue that college programs do.

lastly, im not deflecting, im pointing on the hypocrisy of those acting like their program is holier than thou. If anything, I learned what osu put up with during the peak Tressel years. When your program is at or near the top, everyone comes after you to find every little gray area and all programs have them. Those acting like or believing their program doesn’t, are simply blind or foolish.

It is definitely A dated rule.  On that we can agree.  And it would be easily solved. 

[Honestbuckeye]

pic is of a low-level Ohio State staffer who apparently might've been doing the same thing this Stallions fellow was doing...

Talk about grasping at straws.  Making shit up out of the blue. Wow.  Total  delusion. 

[Mdot21]

Brent Venebales and his defensive staff at Clemson were notorious for stealing signs...Ryan Cooper even publicly cried about it

https://www.si.com/college/2020/11/06/clemson-signal-stealing-dabo-swinney-daily-cover

”Seems to always know exactly what the other team is doing in terms of the plays that they’re running, each play,” Day said of Clemson DC Brent Venables. “Seems to call the right defense into that play a lot. Why that is, I don’t really know. But I can tell you he’s been doing it for a really long time.”

One coach termed it this way: “They are incredible at it. When you play them, it’s not an even playing field, they have so many [analysts] who are able to do that.”

“If they don’t have a plan for Clemson’s signal stealers, then Clemson is going to know every play,” said one of the coaches. “They should be in the KGB stealing communications, they’re that good.”

The unknown element of the stealing also nudges into a gray area that makes for compelling fodder. “To me, it’s like in baseball watching a third-base coach and trying to figure out a bunt or a steal sign,” said one of the opposing assistants. “To me, it’s the game within the game.”

Everyone does it. Jeem's low-level staffer just got the whistle blown on him. Beyond naive to think he was the only one doing this shit. 

How about we just get mics in the QBs and MLBs helmets like the NFL and everyone can stop crying about it...

[ELA]

Yeah, nobody is debating that the rule can probably go away.  And I'm guessing will

[Mdot21]

Yeah, nobody is debating that the rule can probably go away.  And I'm guessing will

there is no rule against the sign stealing, so even if they go to the mics the issue would still be....the 1994 rule which banned advanced in person scouting. 

that rule wasn't even set up to prevent sign stealing. the rule was put in place because the poorer schools were bitching up a storm about not having the money in the football budget to send staffers/scouts to future opponents' games like the money printing helmets had. there was no $7 billion tv contracts in 1994. Vanderbilt and Purdue weren't getting $70-100mm a year tv checks. Well, they are now. Which means....probably don't need that rule anymore.

[ELA]

This has certainly helped OSU fans cope with the fact that their NC hopes were dashed in the 1983 formatted season

[MrNubbz]

I didn't know I was coping,infact I didn't know about it at all

[Mdot21]

If you want to walk it back i never made a comment regarding stealing signs - haven't read one link. But the fights and and UZI Smith -  take the wins off the board - lying and lack of institutional control - or reinstate Ohio State's in 2011. Can't have it both ways

Ohio State absolutely should have all their wins reinstated for 2010. Tatgate was some bullshit. NIL should be retroactive. Go back and apply it to before- the players should've always been able to get paid if you ask me. The reason why Tatgate blew up into a huge scandal is Tressel got caught lying to the NCAA. And he only got caught lying because the dude who was giving free tats and buying memorabilia from OSU players got pinched by the Feds in a drug trafficking ring. NCAA would've never found shit out otherwise.

NCAA can take Bush's Heisman away or vacate Ohio State wins in 2010- but everyone knows Bush won the Heisman and Ohio State dominated the B1G in 2010 and went 12-1. Just because the NCAA said it didn't happen doesn't mean shit. We all saw it- it happened.

[ELA]

I didn't know I was coping,infact I didn't know about it at all

Which step is denial?

The Hall of Fame Bowl is here for you

[MrNubbz]

ELA I haven't the foggiest really I can't deny what i don't know.Why aren't you bitching about howe your boys got hosed in the tunnel - and they did

[Mdot21]

rule made sense when yearly TV payout to the B1G in 1990s was $10 million. Look at the yearly payout to the B1G 2023-2029. It's 120x. $10,000,000 in 1996 adjusted for inflation is $19,934,520.73. That's still a very far cry from $1.2 billion. The poors can afford to send scouts to opponents games now....

[ELA]

ELA I haven't the foggiest really I can't deny what i don't know.Why aren't you bitching about howe your boys got hosed in the tunnel - and they did

https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/what-if-season-simulation-(1983)/