2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Honestbuckeye]

Don’t think you fire a head coach over this, just the renegade staffer if that is what happened.  And few to nobody outside Schembechler Hall know what happened.  Certainly not a bunch of Bucknuts at Eleven Warriors.

And where is this info on tickets for 30 games at 11 different opponents coming from?  Leaked by the NCAA?  Buckeyes?  How does anyone outside of law enforcement get such private financial records?

OMG.  Denial is the first stage they say.
The NCAA has the receipts from 11 different schools.  Go watch the video posted up thread.

Lowlevel staffer?  He wasn’t  using the tickets/ most Saturday s was on UM sideline.  Who was using them?  Why would he have all the tickets in the area needed to view opponents bench?

What did he do with this information that he collected by filming the other team, which is totally illegal, and they supposedly have film of, keep it to himself?  Your just not seeing the reality that everybody else can see, but you will

[Honestbuckeye]

except it's not the type of violation where wins would be vacated or even Harbaugh would be forced to be fired.

Harbaugh is 100% done after this year- and it's going to be because he's sick of the bullshit the NCAA is hurling his way and he'll have plenty of options to go back to the NFL. Dude is sick of college, don't blame him.

This is EXACTLY the kind of violation where wins would be forfeited!   A competitive advantage on the field- during the game, acquired illegally.  

do you think the tattoos Ohio State players got at discount because they traded in bowl? Memorabilia gave him a competitive vantage?

[Temp430]

Yes, video of someone holding their phone up in a stadium during a game is some hard evidence.

[Mdot21]

As long as no staffers were at any of said games and the U didn't pay or reimburse for any tickets, technically there was nothing illegal done.

NCAA Bylaw 11's title is "Conduct and Employment of Athletic Personnel"

It does identify who is prohibited. Employed athletic personnel. 

If Michigan can prove that no one who is on staff went to any of those games and that they never paid or reimbursed anyone for tickets or paid anyone even a 3rd party outside contractor/vendor to attend any games, they are good.

Article 11 governs the conduct and employment of athletics personnel (including 11.6 which regulates scouting). 11.1.1 makes universities responsible for all violations by staff members and 11.1.1.1 presumes that head coaches are responsible for all institutional staff member actions.

Section 4.02.3 defines "Staff" as those individuals who receive a regular salary from a member institution or organization for the performance of a regular staff function representing at least 50 percent of the normal workload for a staff member at that institution or conference. So any potential rule breaking, according to my quick legal analysis, would hinge on whether or not the individuals who attended and taped the games were staff members under that definition.



https://twitter.com/Bry_Mac/status/1716541026309898424?s=20

[Mdot21]

This is EXACTLY the kind of violation where wins would be forfeited!  A competitive advantage on the field- during the game, acquired illegally. 

do you think the tattoos Ohio State players got at discount because they traded in bowl? Memorabilia gave him a competitive vantage?

except it's not. it's a level III violation. Baylor staffer was accused of the same thing in 2016-2017 and all he got was a 1 game suspension and Baylor didn't vacate any wins over it. 

[Temp430]

except it's not. it's a level III violation. Baylor staffer was accused of the same thing in 2016-2017 and all he got was a 1 game suspension and Baylor didn't vacate any wins over it.

But this ain’t Baylor.  This is Harbaugh and Michigan after kicking Buckeyes’ ass two years in a row and making NCAA enforcement look chicken shit. The NCAA will seek the death penalty.

[Mdot21]

Again, the issue isn't the sign stealing. The issue is the advanced scouting rule. The rule was put in place in 1994 because most schools outside of the helmets with deep pockets couldn’t afford to send staffers to every single opponents game in person. Especially back then when the TV money was NOT what it is today. That's why the rule was put in place- not to prevent sign stealing.

[Mdot21]

do you think the tattoos Ohio State players got at discount because they traded in bowl? Memorabilia gave him a competitive vantage?

OSU got in trouble because the NCAA caught Tressel lying. They wouldn't have ever had wins vacated or got additional punishment if not for that fact.

the coverup is always worse than the crime, as they say.

[Temp430]

Doubt Harbaugh is lying unlike Tressel.  NCAA will seek the worst no matter.  If not this then some other BS later on.

[Mdot21]

Doubt Harbaugh is lying unlike Tressel.  NCAA will seek the worst no matter.  If not this then some other BS later on.

the only reason the NCAA ever found a damn thing out in regards to Tressel is because of a federal investigation into the drug trafficker that Pryor and those OSU players were hanging around and selling their stuff to and getting free tats from. Homie got popped by the Feds for selling bricks and that's how everything came out. Same with Michigan basketball- they only got popped because Ed Martin got raided by the FBI for running a huge multi-million dollar illegal gambling ring.

so unless Jeem is buying cheeseburgers from a drug dealer under federal investigation or this Stallions is under federal investigation....they should be good.

NCAA is a useless, toothless, dickless entity with no legal or subpoena power. Deny to you die, throw Stallions under the bus and bleachbit the phones and laptops and you're Gucci.

[MrNubbz]

 This is Harbaugh and Michigan after kicking Buckeyes’ ass two years in a row.

Doubt Harbaugh is lying unlike Tressel. NCAA will seek the worst no matter.  If not this then some other BS later on.

What other gems have you mined for us today you poltroon? Could you possibly be a bigger slappy? I stayed out of this but you thicko had to keep tumbling over your tongue. I just gave you the leash and you hung yourself. I don't give a shyt about this recent bullshit. However covering up UZi Smith's gun toting chode ways was a felony - 69 bullets and speeding thru AnnArbor. Then Getting on F***ing Airliner 3 hrs later - another felony - and laugh it off and plead it down.All of it kept under wraps for half the season until the December. Ya and BOOGER  doesn't lie remember what the carnival barker stated "Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive"  - ya absolutely fetching - take a bow. And then there are 3 fights AT Michigan over a 9 game span,ya - leaders and the best - it was everyone else. Only one of those coaches had a history of getting in others coaches grill - must be where they picked it up from.And Tressel kicked the Walverines ass many more yrs than two years in a row. That's just rich  and he got run for Tatoos/memorabilia

[Temp430]

Chris Day gave birth to this BS.  At this point its media and Buckeye fan base driven.  The NCAA keystone cops do what they do to determine guilt or innocence. Don’t hold your breath.

[Honestbuckeye]

Omg.  You UM guys are in total denial.  

If it doesn’t bother you that your team broke the rules about advance scouting , filming the other teams signals - then this is all moot.   

And the reason the NCAA is pissed at z Harbaugh is exactly because HE LIED about what would have been minor and insignificant recruiting violations.  

What you’re missing is- the rest of the league is apoplectic about this because they now have what they consider proof.  They won’t stand for UM getting off lightly for an in game competitive advantage.  Not to mention the rest of CFB.  Vegas not too happy either. 

[Honestbuckeye]

Chris Day gave birth to this BS.  At this point its media and Buckeye fan base driven.  The NCAA keystone cops do what they do to determine guilt or innocence. Don’t hold your breath.

Now you’re grasping at straws.  I’m sure the coaches and athletic directors at those 11 stadiums would strongly disagree with you. 

But hey Michigan get caught cheating again, but look over there at Ohio State  😂😂😂😂😂