2023 Michigan Season Thread

[Honestbuckeye]

For the 100th time, stealing signs is not illegal. There’s nothing wrong with it. Everyone does it.

the issue is- did they do advanced in person scouting- which is illegal.

Are you just thick headed?  They have receipts now.  Stallions bought tickets, in his own name, to 30 games in 11 different stadiums.  He bought them using third party apps like Stub Hub- but the name stills shows up for that school. 

These were all future UM opponents and all were near midfield and elevated enough to see the opposing team bench and signals. ALL of the other Big Ten teams are now cooperating and finding this evidence.  They are even sharing surveillance film showing the person in these seats filming the other team- for a whole game from what is being reported.   
This form of sign stealing is TOTALLY illegal and provides a substantial competitive advantage. 

[Honestbuckeye]

I believe Stalions was hired by Michigan in the Spring of 2022.  So, when did he buy these tickets?  And was he reimbursed for them by the U?

Do you really think that matters?  He was on staff before 22 as a volunteer.  

if a member of Michigan staff is in future opponents stadiums, and filming the other team - that is a blatant violation of the rules that all of these schools know about.  

30 times in 11 different stadiums.  Come on man.  

[Honestbuckeye]

https://twitter.com/DanMurphyESPN/status/1716535219379966282?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1716535219379966282%7Ctwgr%5E0770797a029fcdd4b5aaf30e06e1b68b3747bdf0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fpenn-state%2Fboard%2F18%2FContents%2Fmichigan-officially-accused-of-in-person-scouting-to-steal-signs-218400967%2F%3Fpage%3D29

[Honestbuckeye]

How do you think the conference and other coaches feel about this? here is a sample :  

This bears repeating with every new nugget that is surfacing:

Michigan's record in 4 years prior to allegation start date: 29-16
Michigan's record since: 33-3.


And one of those losses to a TCU and UGA team he had no idea he was playing to advance scout.

[medinabuckeye1]

break out that bleachbit baby.

I’ll wait to see the actual evidence before I believe any anonymous unsourced fake news media reports. These are the same jerkoffs which said Iraq had WMDs and Trump was a Russian plant….

can’t imagine this Stallions guy is that fking stupid he’d buy tickets to other games in his own name…

I'll agree with you to the extent that these allegations *could* be false or exaggerated. However, if the hard evidence backs up the allegations, Harbaugh is done.

[ELA]

Harbs every time the NCAA calls

https://youtube.com/shorts/gHJ0HBUnQYA?si=Fwm5Ya97z3n7uvWI

[Temp430]

Don’t think you fire a head coach over this, just the renegade staffer if that is what happened.  And few to nobody outside Schembechler Hall know what happened.  Certainly not a bunch of Bucknuts at Eleven Warriors.

And where is this info on tickets for 30 games at 11 different opponents coming from?  Leaked by the NCAA?  Buckeyes?  How does anyone outside of law enforcement get such private financial records?

[Mdot21]

Are you just thick headed?  They have receipts now.  Stallions bought tickets, in his own name, to 30 games in 11 different stadiums.  He bought them using third party apps like Stub Hub- but the name stills shows up for that school. 

These were all future UM opponents and all were near midfield and elevated enough to see the opposing team bench and signals. ALL of the other Big Ten teams are now cooperating and finding this evidence.  They are even sharing surveillance film showing the person in these seats filming the other team- for a whole game from what is being reported.   
This form of sign stealing is TOTALLY illegal and provides a substantial competitive advantage.

read the article genius. there are no uploaded pdf copies of credit card statements or StubHub receipts. All it says "anonymous sources told ESPN" blah blah blah blah. It's pretty simple, if they have the evidence, publish it in the article or link to an uploaded DropBox or some shit. It's not rocket science. 

Sorry, not going to just believe dickless wonder Pete Thamel aka Urban Meyer's personal ball licker/cock slurper. 

Sign stealing isn't illegal. In person advanced scouting is. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Don’t think you fire a head coach over this, just the renegade staffer if that is what happened.  And few to nobody outside Schembechler Hall know what happened.  Certainly not a bunch of Bucknuts at Eleven Warriors.

Renegade staffer? How much do you think those OSU/PSU tickets cost? Do you really think he was spending his own money for (2) prime seats with no promise of reimbursement? 

Nah, if the allegations are true, *someone* high enough in the organization to reimburse was behind this. And then it's either Jim knew or Jim should have known. Either way he's in trouble. 

Not even necessarily being fired by Michigan. This could be NCAA show-cause territory. 

[FearlessF]

hah, if enough wins are negated Jim is done

it's on his watch, he should have known if he didn't

his last 2 wins vs the Bucks are cancelled......  how's that gonna sit with the fans and boosters of substance?

[Mdot21]

How do you think the conference and other coaches feel about this? here is a sample : 

This bears repeating with every new nugget that is surfacing:

Michigan's record in 4 years prior to allegation start date: 29-16
Michigan's record since: 33-3.


And one of those losses to a TCU and UGA team he had no idea he was playing to advance scout.

this is a beyond retarded take. 

yeah, it's all signs DerP. Has nothing to do with firing Don Brown's useless ass and replacing him with DC's from the NFL (thanks John Harbaugh!), hiring Sherrone Moore as OL coach in 2021 and building an elite OL culture- Moore just might be the best OL coach in CFB right now.....upgrading significantly at QB, RB (Corum and Edwards are prettty good), and getting players on defense like Aidan Hutchinson, David Ojabo, Will Johnson, Mazi Smith, Kris Jenkins, Mason Graham, Rod Moore developed- you know- round 1-2 NFL type guys on defense. iT's DaH sIgNz...DeRp...DeRp...*retard noises*

UGA has lost one game in like 3 years buddy, in an SECCG to a Bama team that was runner up in the Natty that featured the #1 pick in the 2023 draft and a WR that would've been a top 5 pick if he didn't blow out his ACL in the Natty....and still wound up being the #12 pick in the draft. That's it. Nobody was beating Georgia in 2021 with those mutants they had on defense....who are all kicking ass in the NFL now by the way...

Lack of signs really helped Michigan get boned by the refs vs TCU and have a TD overturned only for JJ McCarthy/Kalel Mullings to fumble the ball at the 1 yard line the very next play. Lack of signs totally helped JJ McCarthy make bad reads and throw not one but TWO god awful late passes to the sidelines which went for 6 the other way. Lack of signs really helped Michigan not call dumbass plays in the redzone and go for it on 4th down instead of take easy 3 points a couple times with their automatic kicker who was drafted in the 3rd round of an NFL draft. 

Yup, it was all the signs.

[Temp430]

IF the tickets were reimbursed by the U then that’s an issue especially if the business purpose given for the expense was false.

Harbaugh should have known?  I’m sure the NCAA will think so and use it to go after him.  But we’re quite a ways from that point. 

Something about how details got to thr media doesn’t smell right.

[Mdot21]

hah, if enough wins are negated Jim is done

it's on his watch, he should have known if he didn't

his last 2 wins vs the Bucks are cancelled......  how's that gonna sit with the fans and boosters of substance?

except it's not the type of violation where wins would be vacated or even Harbaugh would be forced to be fired.

Harbaugh is 100% done after this year- and it's going to be because he's sick of the bullshit the NCAA is hurling his way and he'll have plenty of options to go back to the NFL. Dude is sick of college, don't blame him.

[Mdot21]

https://twitter.com/Misopogon/status/1716546028860530747?s=20


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