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Topic: 2023 Michigan Season Thread

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #282 on: July 28, 2023, 12:47:27 AM »
Elon took a bad thing and made it worse
Oh and I'll cache it,you know in the high unlikely hood that Mel upsets the apple cart
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #283 on: July 28, 2023, 01:33:11 AM »
How much of a penalty is it to have a coached banned from the sidelines for fours games?
It would have screwed Florida under Spurrier.  But I think this is the penalty because it's not a particularly detrimental one.
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #284 on: July 28, 2023, 05:22:38 PM »
bold prediction time:

if there's a breakout currently unknown WR on the roster in '23 it'll be Darius Clemons. He's 6'3, 210+, physically looks the part, was a top 150 overall 'croot in '22 class and ran verified laser time 4.37 in the 40 at The Opening combine that Nike puts on at their HQ in Oregon every year.

if there's a breakout currently unknown CB on the roster in '23 it'll be Ja'Den McBurrows. Everyone is talking about the transfer portal kid Josh Wallace- who has the age and experience or Amorion Walker- who by all accounts is the best athlete on the roster. But McBurrows has flashed when he's been healthy and gotten time and looked great in the spring.

Outside of CB Will Johnson, NT Kenneth Grant will wind up being their best player on defense by the end of the year imo. Kid is freakishly big and agile.

Probably not a so bold prediction here, but in terms of their ability to win it all in the playoff, Michigan will go as far as JJ McCarthy takes them. If they get a similar season to what JJ gave them in '22 or just a small notch better- they'll still have great shot at winning the B1G and making the playoff, but that's about it. IF JJ takes a real jump and turns into a legit 1st rd NFL draft prospect- then you have a team that I'd actually put $ on to win it all.

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #285 on: July 28, 2023, 08:29:22 PM »
bold prediction time:

if there's a breakout currently unknown WR on the roster in '23 it'll be Darius Clemons. He's 6'3, 210+, physically looks the part, was a top 150 overall 'croot in '22 class and ran verified laser time 4.37 in the 40 at The Opening combine that Nike puts on at their HQ in Oregon every year.

if there's a breakout currently unknown CB on the roster in '23 it'll be Ja'Den McBurrows. Everyone is talking about the transfer portal kid Josh Wallace- who has the age and experience or Amorion Walker- who by all accounts is the best athlete on the roster. But McBurrows has flashed when he's been healthy and gotten time and looked great in the spring.

Outside of CB Will Johnson, NT Kenneth Grant will wind up being their best player on defense by the end of the year imo. Kid is freakishly big and agile.

Probably not a so bold prediction here, but in terms of their ability to win it all in the playoff, Michigan will go as far as JJ McCarthy takes them. If they get a similar season to what JJ gave them in '22 or just a small notch better- they'll still have great shot at winning the B1G and making the playoff, but that's about it. IF JJ takes a real jump and turns into a legit 1st rd NFL draft prospect- then you have a team that I'd actually put $ on to win it all.
If McCarthy just eliminates a few of the rare turnovers- I like Michigans chances.  They are loaded this year.
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #286 on: July 30, 2023, 02:41:40 PM »
If McCarthy just eliminates a few of the rare turnovers- I like Michigans chances.  They are loaded this year.
Eliminating the few dumb turnovers isn't enough imo. JJ needs to start making big plays in the passing game in order to take that offense up a level. And they are pretty well loaded up nearly everywhere but WR imo. They have bunch of solid WRs, but nothing to write home about imo. Cornelius Johnson & Roman Wilson are better than people think, but they are nothing like what OSU/BAMA has kept trotting out the last 5-6 years- not even close. Michigan hasn't had a truly elite unstoppable take over the game guy like that since Braylon Edwards or Mario Manningham. That's a looooooong f'ng time. DPJ was suppose to be that- but Jeem never developed him properly. Kid would've been a top 10 pick had he gone to OSU. 

Michigan is going to have an excellent two deep on the OL with what they have returning & developing + the transfer portal guys they brought in- it'll be the best overall depth they've had along the OL in probably 15-20 years- no hyperbole there. They have 10 guys right now that could start at most P5 schools.

They'll have the best 1-2 punch at RB in the entire nation with Corum + Edwards imo. Edwards is the best RB in the sport if you ask me- has just begun to scratch the surface. Excellent TE room with the growth of Colston Loveland (who was a studly true frosh last year) and the addition of a veteran TE from the transfer portal in AJ Barner.

Defense they have excellent talent, experience, and depth at DL, EDGE, LB, and S. They'll have maybe the best CB in the entire nation in Will Johnson (he's got that kind of high 1st rd ceiling) and one of the very best nickel DBs in Mike Sainistril. The concern is CB depth and who plays the other outside CB spot opposite Will Johnson.

IF JJ doesn't take a massive leap and shatter every Michigan passing record this year- something went really wrong. He's got every tool in the book. He's legit 6'3ish, he's a terrific athlete- has way better agility and speed than I think people realize- he is a legit threat as a runner- and he's got high level arm strength- he can make every throw in the book and then some. Kid throws darts and dimes sometimes that just make you go wow- then other times it's just- what the hell was that?

Everything else around him is so good that I still think they are an 12-1 maybe even 13-0 B1G chip winning team if JJ has a repeat type of season and only marginally improves. But they'll stall out in the playoff again. Only way they'll have a chance at a Natty is if JJ can really level up and take his game to that 1st rd NFL draft level. He's got all the physical tools and raw ability- whether or not he can get there is the $64,000 ?. Unfortunately I think a big part of the problem in his quest to get there is his coach Jeem....but perhaps this 4 game suspension will have the interim coach open it up and air it out a bit more and allow for JJ to just cut it loose for the first month of the season and not have to worry about his autistic coach hanging over his shoulder. Jeem's retardation, his aversion to risk, and his pathetically out-dated passing schemes/concepts and overall general philosophy when it comes to offense hinders QB's imo. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #287 on: July 30, 2023, 03:01:48 PM »
UM had more yds passing than rushing vs tOSU last November over 500 total - that pretty balanced
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #288 on: July 30, 2023, 07:31:19 PM »
UM had more yds passing than rushing vs tOSU last November over 500 total - that pretty balanced
yeah but that was one game- with a bunch of big play chunk passing plays- JJ only attempted around 23 or 24 passes and completed only half of those....

Kid only threw for around 2,600-2,700 yards and 22 TDs last season....which honestly are abysmal #'s in the sport today and right around/near Michigan all-time passing records. Which is kinda sad. 

If he doesn't go for 3,200 to 3,500 yards and 32-35 TD's this season and rewrite every (pedestrian) all-time passing records at Michigan....then yeah they just aren't going to get over the hump imo. They'll be exactly where they've been the last 2 seasons. Good enough to win the B1G, then get bounced in 1st rd of the playoff. 

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #289 on: July 30, 2023, 09:57:38 PM »
yup
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #290 on: July 31, 2023, 08:53:45 AM »
Michigan’s offense prioritizes running the ball.  Pass when needed or occasionally to keep the defense honest.
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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #291 on: July 31, 2023, 09:27:14 AM »
Michigan’s offense prioritizes running the ball.  Pass when needed or occasionally to keep the defense honest.
Yeah, we're talking 3,200-3,500 pass yards and 32-35 pass TD's....which is pedestrian by todays standards- we're not talking elite passing attack 45-50 pass TDs & 4,500-5,000 pass yards from the QB like OSU has had basically every year since Ryan Day has been in Columbus.

 IF JJ can't even hit 3,200-3,500 and 32-35 pass TDs against that schedule....then JFC something went WAY wrong. Those sort of #'s should be the bare MINIMUM this season....and if JJ can't do that in this day and age where the entire game is rigged for passing the football- then Jeem should really just go fk himself and make his suspension permanent by kicking rocks and going off to the NFL. 

Jeem's Stanford teams prioritized running the football as well. That didn't stop Andrew Luck from making a massive leap in production in his 2nd year as the starting QB. He went from 2,500 pass yards and only 13 pass TDs his first year starting for Jeem to just under 3,400 pass yards and 32 pass TD's in his second year starting. OPEN UP THE GOD DAMN OFFENSE and there's no reason why JJ can't have similar production with the OL/TE/WRs/RBs he's got around him. Idk here's an idea...maybe feature Donovan Edwards in the passing game A LOT more and big plays and touchdowns will happen more often....

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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #292 on: July 31, 2023, 09:37:53 AM »
Michigan’s offense prioritizes running the ball.  Pass when needed or occasionally to keep the defense honest.
Would you say this about the UGA offense as well, more or less?


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Re: 2023 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #293 on: July 31, 2023, 10:01:36 AM »
yeah but that was one game- with a bunch of big play chunk passing plays- JJ only attempted around 23 or 24 passes and completed only half of those....

Kid only threw for around 2,600-2,700 yards and 22 TDs last season....which honestly are abysmal #'s in the sport today and right around/near Michigan all-time passing records. Which is kinda sad.

If he doesn't go for 3,200 to 3,500 yards and 32-35 TD's this season and rewrite every (pedestrian) all-time passing records at Michigan....then yeah they just aren't going to get over the hump imo. They'll be exactly where they've been the last 2 seasons. Good enough to win the B1G, then get bounced in 1st rd of the playoff.
Chad Henne who was more of a passing QB at Michigan completed 162/278 attempts for 1938 yards in 2007.  Don’t know where your getting your 3200 yards passing requirement for JJ but suspect its out of your ass.  Maybe if he was playing for BYU in the WAC in the olden days.
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