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Topic: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #588 on: December 11, 2023, 09:57:56 AM »
Updated KenPom:

  • 3 Purdue 
  • 14 Illinois 
  • 15 Wisconsin 
  • 27 Ohio State 
  • 35 Michigan State 
  • 41 Northwestern 
  • 42 Michigan 
  • 58 Iowa
  • 60 Nebraska 
  • 72 Rutgers 
  • 74 Maryland 
  • 76 Indiana 
  • 92 Minnesota 
  • 111 Penn State 


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #589 on: December 11, 2023, 03:06:53 PM »
MSU when the game is on the line

Against James Madison, they had the lead 68-64 with 1:26 left, only to lose in OT
Against Arizona, they led 66-63 with 3:57 and were outscored 11-2 the rest of the way
Against Nebraska, they led 65-62 with 3:12 left and were outscored 15-5 the rest of the way.


7-2 with a win over #1 Arizona, and the only losses being to Duke and Wisconsin is probably still ranked in the top 15.  Instead they are likely are missing the tournament.  Will Izzo get them better by March?  Probably.  But the difference this year is that...

(i) MSU has no good wins (they have no Q1 wins, and one Q2 win); and
(ii) they don't have the opportunities to make up this start.  In 2021 when they looked dead, they came back by beating three top 5 teams (OSU, Illinois, UM) in a 2 week span at home in February.  This year the Big Ten has one top 5 team (Purdue), and two lower top 25 teams (Illinois and Wisconsin).  They don't play Purdue at home, and they already lost at home to Wisconsin.  So unless they beat one of those teams on the road, they only have one home game left against a ranked team.  And it's not like Illinois is some elite team.  If they go 10-5 in their final 15 games, does that help?  Let's say that's losses at Wisconsin and Purdue, and a win at home against Illinois.  9-3 against a mix of bubble and bad teams doesn't claw you out of this hole.  And I've never seen an MSU team play as bad as this one.  This is on Izzo's refusal to use the portal.  He has two true bigs.  One is a 5th year senior who has been a proven bust, the other is a walk on sophomore.  They combined for 0 points and 3 rebounds last night.  Nebraska's big they pulled out of the portal set career highs in rebounds and assists, because he's playing against two guys who should not be playing at this level.  

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #590 on: December 11, 2023, 03:31:16 PM »
On the worldwide leader's site they list the "get in" price next to games on the schedule.  Here that is for Ohio State's 18 remaining league games:


Weekend road games:

  • $52 each average
  • $65 max
  • $46 min
Weekday road games:
  • $18 average 
  • $24 max
  • $12 min
Weekend home games:
  • $17.50 average
  • $22 max
  • $13 min
Weekday home games:
  • $10.60 average
  • $23 max
  • $3 min
Nobody in Columbus cares about this team.  


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #591 on: December 14, 2023, 12:40:59 AM »
Northwestern just lost to KenPom #321

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #592 on: December 14, 2023, 08:21:13 AM »
I think pregame Chicago State may have been #335 even

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #593 on: December 14, 2023, 08:24:21 AM »
CSU is UW's last tune-up game. I hope they are paying attention.
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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #594 on: December 14, 2023, 01:27:15 PM »
I think pregame Chicago State may have been #335 even
Yeah, it is REALLY bad and outright astounding for a team that beat Purdue two weeks ago.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #595 on: December 15, 2023, 10:40:20 AM »
Lunardi's latest:

  • #1 Purdue
  • #4 Illinois
  • #5 Wisconsin
  • #7 Ohio State, Northwestern
  • #12 Indiana*


Per Lunardi we have no "Bubble" teams.  Ie, no B1G team is listed among any of the following categories:
  • Last four byes
  • Last four in
  • First four out
  • Next four out

*Indiana is listed as an "automatic qualifier".  This is because they are the only 2-0 team in the league so Lunardi's system assumes that they will get the B1G's auto-bid.  Effectively that means that Lunardi is currently predicting that the B1G only has five teams good enough to get an at-large bid and would ONLY get six in the NCAA if one of the other nine wins the B1G Tournament.  


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #596 on: December 15, 2023, 10:51:03 AM »
Crazy weekend and the B1G has some seriously HUMONGOUS games.  


  • #3 Purdue plays #1 Arizona in Indianapolis Saturday at 4:30 but nobody will see it because it is on Peacock.  
  • Indiana hosts #2 Kansas at Assembly Hall Saturday at 12:30 and this one is on CBS so even cord-cutters like me can see it.  I think it is ironic that Purdue retaking #1 is possibly dependent on how well their hated rivals do against #2.  
  • Michigan State plays #6 Baylor in Detroit Saturday at 2pm on FOX.  This is an important game for the Spartans because November and December so far have been a catastrophe for them and given the weakness of the B1G they don't have a lot of opportunities to make up for it.  
  • Penn State plays GaTech in MSG on Saturday at noon on BTN.  
  • Rutgers hosts Long Island on Saturday at 1pm, not televised.  
  • Michigan hosts Eastern Michigan on Saturday at 230 on BTN.  On that note, what is the latest with Howard?  Apparently he and the S&G coach had a fight (fight might be too strong but supposedly they had to be separated) and that is a violation of the "Zero Tolerance" policy applied to Howard after he punched a Wisconsin Coach a while back.  
  • Ohio State plays UCLA in Atlanta on Saturday at 3pm on CBS.  UCLA has three losses but they are neutral site losses to #4 Marquette and #11 Gonzaga along with a road loss to Villanova so the Bruins could be pretty good.  
  • Iowa plays FAMU in Des Moines on Saturday at 430 on BTN.  
  • #25 (for now) Northwestern plays Depaul in Chicago on Saturday at 530 on FS1.  
  • #16 Illinois hosts Colgate on Sunday at 1pm on BTN.  
  • Nebraska visits Kansas State on Sunday at 3pm on B12N.  


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #597 on: December 16, 2023, 12:07:14 PM »
Today's games sorted by point spreads:


  • Ohio State -1.5 vs UCLA, 3pm in Atlanta CBS
  • #3 Purdue +2 vs #1 Kansas, 430 Peacock
  • Penn State -3 vs GaTech at MSG, noon BTN
  • Michigan State +3.5 vs #6 Baylor, 2pm FOX
  • Indiana +7 vs #2 Kansas, 1230 CBS
  • #25 Northwestern -10 vs DePaul, 530 FS1
  • Michigan -23.5 vs EMU, 230 BTN
  • Rutgers vs LIU Brooklyn, 1pm
  • Iowa vs FAMU, 430 BTN


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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #598 on: December 16, 2023, 12:37:29 PM »
Baylor -3.5 seems like easy money

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #599 on: December 16, 2023, 02:10:45 PM »
Indiana +7 is sure looking good right now but there are 13 minutes left.

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #600 on: December 16, 2023, 02:51:18 PM »
Nits got boned on a terrible call at the end of the game

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Re: 2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #601 on: December 16, 2023, 02:58:43 PM »
MSU looking how MSU is supposed to look.

What happened to IU??
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