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847badgerfan

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« Reply #322 on: January 07, 2022, 08:37:01 PM »
It wasn't always a massive money making machine.

Read this book.

From Red Ink to Roses: The Turbulent Transformation of a Big Ten Program: Telander, Rick: 9780671748531: Amazon.com: Books

It wasn't until ESecPN and the other networks started ponying up big coin for TV rights that CFB started making the big bucks.

And ya know what? That can go away just as fast as it came.
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« Reply #323 on: January 07, 2022, 08:39:12 PM »
It wasn't always a massive money making machine.

Read this book.

From Red Ink to Roses: The Turbulent Transformation of a Big Ten Program: Telander, Rick: 9780671748531: Amazon.com: Books

It wasn't until ESecPN and the other networks started ponying up big coin for TV rights that CFB started making the big bucks.

And ya know what? That can go away just as fast as it came.
money is here, it's not ever going away. 

You really think Wisconsin is going to turn down those fat ass check from the BTN, ABC/ESPN, and FOX/FS1? Lol. Fat chance.

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« Reply #324 on: January 07, 2022, 08:46:53 PM »
It wasn't always a massive money making machine.

Read this book.

From Red Ink to Roses: The Turbulent Transformation of a Big Ten Program: Telander, Rick: 9780671748531: Amazon.com: Books

It wasn't until ESecPN and the other networks started ponying up big coin for TV rights that CFB started making the big bucks.

And ya know what? That can go away just as fast as it came.
Definitely true. Someone said John Cooper was making 98K when he started at OSU. But as the business took off, everyone was getting huge bumps in pay except for one group, and we all know which group that was. That's because the adults in charge got greedy, and no other reason.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #325 on: January 07, 2022, 08:52:01 PM »
It wasn't always a massive money making machine.

Read this book.

From Red Ink to Roses: The Turbulent Transformation of a Big Ten Program: Telander, Rick: 9780671748531: Amazon.com: Books

It wasn't until ESecPN and the other networks started ponying up big coin for TV rights that CFB started making the big bucks.

And ya know what? That can go away just as fast as it came.
Maybe, maybe. 

That's the challenge when your most "responsible" stakeholders lived life ready to leverage the product for immediate and long term profit. Lord knows, one of the stars of that book was excellent at it. 

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« Reply #326 on: January 07, 2022, 10:08:00 PM »
It wasn't always a massive money making machine.

Read this book.

From Red Ink to Roses: The Turbulent Transformation of a Big Ten Program: Telander, Rick: 9780671748531: Amazon.com: Books

It wasn't until ESecPN and the other networks started ponying up big coin for TV rights that CFB started making the big bucks.

And ya know what? That can go away just as fast as it came.
Money goes away real quick when people stop watching the product...

But that doesn't seem to be an issue. Even crappy bowl games between G5 directional schools pull enough eyeballs to be worth broadcasting.

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« Reply #327 on: January 08, 2022, 12:51:41 AM »
Money goes away real quick when people stop watching the product...

But that doesn't seem to be an issue. Even crappy bowl games between G5 directional schools pull enough eyeballs to be worth broadcasting.
Add a curiosity, what would be the root cause of people not watching the product? I’m your mind, I mean.

I ask because there is this sort of interesting split between the smaller group of people with money who make a lot of the sports run, and the larger viewing public.

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« Reply #328 on: January 08, 2022, 12:55:51 AM »
Add a curiosity, what would be the root cause of people not watching the product? I’m your mind, I mean.

I ask because there is this sort of interesting split between the smaller group of people with money who make a lot of the sports run, and the larger viewing public.
I'm not saying a lot of people are going to stop watching, actually. The viewing public hasn't seemed to have a problem with the easy college football is changing so far. 

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« Reply #329 on: January 08, 2022, 09:51:08 AM »
Well we know that actual stadium attendance has been declining for a couple of decades now.  There are a lot of reasons for it, pricing and competition with other forms of entertainment at the top of the list.  But the root of all of those problems, seems to be that college football just isn't engaging and retaining new fans at the same rate it's losing them.  Younger people just aren't as interested in the sport, as we all were, when we became fanatics.

TV viersership is something else.  There are more games than ever being broadcast, and although many cannibalize one another for individual ratings, the sum total of incremental viewership still seems to be increasing. There's even incremental viewership from the random Tuesday night MAACtion games that add to the total, compared to what was happening 20 years ago.  That makes it hard to determine if fan interest is up, or if they're just broadcasting into a previously underserved market.


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« Reply #330 on: January 08, 2022, 10:01:27 AM »
Brandon Joseph headed to ND

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« Reply #331 on: January 08, 2022, 10:42:17 AM »
Well we know that actual stadium attendance has been declining for a couple of decades now.  There are a lot of reasons for it, pricing and competition with other forms of entertainment at the top of the list.  But the root of all of those problems, seems to be that college football just isn't engaging and retaining new fans at the same rate it's losing them.  Younger people just aren't as interested in the sport, as we all were, when we became fanatics.

TV viersership is something else.  There are more games than ever being broadcast, and although many cannibalize one another for individual ratings, the sum total of incremental viewership still seems to be increasing. There's even incremental viewership from the random Tuesday night MAACtion games that add to the total, compared to what was happening 20 years ago.  That makes it hard to determine if fan interest is up, or if they're just broadcasting into a previously underserved market.
Attendance is declining because the cost of attending has went thru the roof. I can clearly remember when you couldn’t watch every game on tv, so it gave more reasons to actually go to the games. Myself I just don’t have the time, and football season falls right in between hunting season and the best fishing time of the year. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #332 on: January 08, 2022, 10:51:37 AM »
money is here, it's not ever going away.

You really think Wisconsin is going to turn down those fat ass check from the BTN, ABC/ESPN, and FOX/FS1? Lol. Fat chance.
I would not say that.

Guys like us will watch. The key is guys like this:



Are they gonna watch?
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« Reply #333 on: January 08, 2022, 10:53:46 AM »
Attendance is declining because the cost of attending has went thru the roof. I can clearly remember when you couldn’t watch every game on tv, so it gave more reasons to actually go to the games. Myself I just don’t have the time, and football season falls right in between hunting season and the best fishing time of the year.
I stopped going when it became a chore to go. Hotels, long drive, personal seat license, etc. It was a $25-30K/year habit, not including post-season stuff.
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« Reply #334 on: January 08, 2022, 11:36:07 AM »
I stopped going when it became a chore to go. Hotels, long drive, personal seat license, etc. It was a $25-30K/year habit, not including post-season stuff.
I think this is an interesting part of it. Schools converted passion into money. That was good business. 

But it meant that younger generations saw it as just that, a business. And for the price of a nice TV, a message board login and a couple of trips to the college town that either end in a scalped ticket or a trip to a fun bar, they were getting a lot of the same experience. 

Like, we're what, less than 15 years from people writing pearl-clinchingly about how a mentally handicapped UW fan rallied the  "donation" for a ticket, only to learn he had not "donated" enough and was out four figures? World has changed a lot, and colleges didn't understand the behavior that built crazy fans down the road. 

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« Reply #335 on: January 08, 2022, 11:39:08 AM »
Attendance is declining because the cost of attending has went thru the roof. I can clearly remember when you couldn’t watch every game on tv, so it gave more reasons to actually go to the games. Myself I just don’t have the time, and football season falls right in between hunting season and the best fishing time of the year.
Yup.  Like I said, pricing, and competition with other forms of entertainment.

But youngsters will spend a fortune attending music concerts and festivals.  In Austin, tickets to a handful of good shows plus ACL Festival costs quite a bit more than buying season tickets to a UT game.  And they're willing to pay it.

They're choosing to do that, instead of football, because they're no longer engaging with their school and identifying with its sports teams.  They also don't find the game to be as entertaining as we did, not sure why, maybe it's too violent for their delicate sensibilities?  I'm half-joking there, but might be part of it.
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