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Topic: 2022 Transfer Portal

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utee94

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2021, 09:59:43 AM »
I feel bad that he and his friends/family didn't make a better decision a few months ago

live and learn and move on

always the risk when you go to a program that recruits at the level of Bama or Clemson or Ohio St, or Texas or a top 10 program

you might have to wait to play and you might not ever be good enough to play

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He's not anywhere close to the first and he certainly won't be the last, to think he was good enough to compete immediately, and then ride the pine instead.

The only new wrinkle here, is the NIL angle.  And going forward that type of thing won't be unique, either.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2021, 10:03:50 AM »
I feel bad that he and his friends/family didn't make a better decision a few months ago
I wouldn't call it a bad decision. He went somewhere, made his money, and now can go somewhere else and make more money and also play. Win-win from a football and financial standpoint. The "Feel bad" is more about his personal feelings, where as a young kid his plan got out of whack and he had to change on the fly.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2021, 10:05:15 AM »
word.

He's not anywhere close to the first and he certainly won't be the last, to think he was good enough to compete immediately, and then ride the pine instead.

The only new wrinkle here, is the NIL angle.  And going forward that type of thing won't be unique, either.
I don't think he really thought he was going to play substantially this year. I don't think that was a motivation at all. But when the guy ahead of you is a Heisman candidate who is coming back next year, it changes the analysis.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2021, 10:08:01 AM »
I don't think he really thought he was going to play substantially this year. I don't think that was a motivation at all. But when the guy ahead of you is a Heisman candidate who is coming back next year, it changes the analysis.
The guy ahead of him wasn't a Hesiman candidate until the season played out.  There's no doubt in my mind that this highly recruited 5* QB believed he could compete and win the starting job in year 1.  They ALL think they can compete and win the starting job in year 1.  And that's not a bad thing.  It just doesn't always work out, obviously, and then, as you stated a moment ago, it's time to change the plan on the fly.

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« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2021, 10:37:29 AM »
The guy ahead of him wasn't a Hesiman candidate until the season played out.  There's no doubt in my mind that this highly recruited 5* QB believed he could compete and win the starting job in year 1.  They ALL think they can compete and win the starting job in year 1.  And that's not a bad thing.  It just doesn't always work out, obviously, and then, as you stated a moment ago, it's time to change the plan on the fly.
this. 

This kid was one of the biggest recruits ever....he was the #1 rated player in the nation in the class of 2022, he reclassified to 2021- and all the 'crootin sites STILL ranked him as the #1 player in the nation. 247 had him tied with Jadeveon Clowney (#1 overall pick), Robert Nkemdiche (#29 overall pick), Vince Young (#3 overall pick), and Rashan Gary (#12 overall pick) as the highest rated RECRUIT EVER. Ever. 

No doubt in my mind either that he thought he could win a job that was completely open. Stroud wasn't an entrenched starter. Fields had just left and went off to the NFL 1st round- job was open for someone to take.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2021, 10:46:07 AM »
perhaps all the 'crootin sites drank too much kool-ade?
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« Reply #76 on: December 04, 2021, 10:49:39 AM »
The guy ahead of him wasn't a Hesiman candidate until the season played out.  There's no doubt in my mind that this highly recruited 5* QB believed he could compete and win the starting job in year 1.  They ALL think they can compete and win the starting job in year 1.  And that's not a bad thing.  It just doesn't always work out, obviously, and then, as you stated a moment ago, it's time to change the plan on the fly.

I mean, sure, all decent players think they are going to go in and compete and be awesome. That's why they compete. But the plan was for him to be a freshman next year, and then really be the starter the year after that. Then the NIL rules changed and he had to change his plan on the fly, which screwed up his timeline. First world problems, to be sure. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #77 on: December 04, 2021, 10:54:59 AM »

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No doubt in my mind either that he thought he could win a job that was completely open.
He didn't even arrive until the middle of training camp. Maybe in the back of his mind thought he could eventually win the job, but I don't think even he thought he would step right in and be the guy.

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« Reply #78 on: December 04, 2021, 11:32:45 AM »
He didn't even arrive until the middle of training camp. Maybe in the back of his mind thought he could eventually win the job, but I don't think even he thought he would step right in and be the guy.
He's 17-18 years old. Do you remember being 17-18? Yeah, they don't think rationally.

Kid was being told he's the best thing EVER since he was probably 12-13 years old. I'm sure in his mind he thought he could go in there no matter the situation and wind up winning the job before the year is over. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2021, 11:38:14 AM »
Max, I think you're downplaying how much these kids truly believe they're The One.  I guarantee you he did.  

But we can disagree here and it doesn't change anything.  He's transferring out and there are many schools that will be interested him, he'll have his pick of the litter.  If he came to Texas, I'm almost positive he'd be starting next year, our QB room is pretty pathetic right now.  That's true of a lot of other schools too.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #80 on: December 04, 2021, 11:40:51 AM »
Max, I think you're downplaying how much these kids truly believe they're The One.  I guarantee you he did. 

But we can disagree here and it doesn't change anything.  He's transferring out and there are many schools that will be interested him, he'll have his pick of the litter.  If he came to Texas, I'm almost positive he'd be starting next year, our QB room is pretty pathetic right now.  That's true of a lot of other schools too.
Texas would be a good fit for him. He's from the state, and he walks in he's the day 1 starter and has an amazing RB to hand the ball off to (Bijan) and an incredible WR to throw to (Worthy). Toys like that would be very enticing to any QB.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #81 on: December 04, 2021, 11:47:57 AM »
It's amazing how our society's priorities are changing.Nothing wrong with making some money or positioning yourself in a better place to do so.There seems to be no patience or wanting guaranteed money w/o guaranteed results
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #82 on: December 04, 2021, 11:49:21 AM »
It's amazing how our society's priorities are changing.Nothing wrong with making some money or positioning yourself in a better place to do so.There seems to be no patience or wanting guaranteed money w/o guaranteed results
wasn't his NIL deal $1.4 million? what 17-18 year old kid would ever pass that up? and if the condition of the deal is he has to start at least 5 games by his sophomore season- well- that was never going to happen at Ohio State with Stroud becoming a breakout star in 2021. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #83 on: December 04, 2021, 11:55:45 AM »
I'm talking in general,but what in the hell is this NIL?
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