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Topic: 2022 Transfer Portal

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ELA

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #448 on: January 29, 2022, 08:35:24 PM »
Hell, just make every scholarship count against your number for 4 years, whether they stay or not, for whatever reason.

And then beyond 4 years, any kid who started at your school, doesn't count against it

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #449 on: January 29, 2022, 08:59:05 PM »
The backups love that plan, lol.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #450 on: January 29, 2022, 09:32:37 PM »
Actually the biggest downside is to G5 teams who exclusively lose guys to the portal.  It only cuts down on P5 to P5 transfers

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #451 on: January 29, 2022, 09:45:51 PM »
Just watching, feels like NIL plus the portal is a net plus for the havenots of the world. Jackson State got two top 100 commits. TAMU signed the best class ever. It's not whether the Bammers and Buckeyes have advantages, it's the amount of advantages they have. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #452 on: January 29, 2022, 10:35:05 PM »
Jackson State signed those guys for precisely 1 reason:  Deion Sanders.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #453 on: January 30, 2022, 07:49:47 AM »
Jackson State signed those guys for precisely 1 reason:  Deion Sanders.
Well, two reasons, Deion Sanders AND they can get paid while playing wherever they want.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #454 on: January 30, 2022, 08:54:27 AM »
The game is being burned to the ground.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #455 on: January 30, 2022, 10:11:11 AM »
Just watching, feels like NIL plus the portal is a net plus for the havenots of the world. Jackson State got two top 100 commits. TAMU signed the best class ever. It's not whether the Bammers and Buckeyes have advantages, it's the amount of advantages they have.
Jackson State is an outlier and will remain an outlier. There's no way that the HBCUs or other FCS-and-below schools can compete on an NIL basis as a whole.

The same is true of G5. There may be a couple outlier programs that end up with outsized NIL value, but for the most part they're still going to be second-tier to even bad P5 programs on the money aspect.

Whether TAMU is an outlier remains to be seen. Within P5, I don't think we know whether NIL is going to be a bigger advantage to the helmets, or dilute their advantage to the rest of the P5, overall. If boosters just start paying everyone a base NIL salary, a la Texas, and the stars make bank on top of that, it's gonna be hard for mid-level P5 teams to compete. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #456 on: January 30, 2022, 10:18:27 AM »

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Jackson State is an outlier and will remain an outlier. There's no way that the HBCUs or other FCS-and-below schools can compete on an NIL basis as a whole.
I mean, Alabama is an outlier too. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #457 on: January 30, 2022, 10:26:03 AM »
I mean, Alabama is an outlier too.

Well, yes. And that's why I said, in the paragraphs you didn't quote, how G5 programs--who are generally on a higher tier of competition than FCS and below (where most HBCU reside), will still be second-tier to "even bad P5 programs". 

You said NIL is "an advantage for the havenots of the world", using Jackson State as one of your two examples. I think the point is that NIL is an advantage for any school that can leverage the star power of someone like Deion Sanders, and not generally for havenots.  

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #458 on: January 30, 2022, 10:53:53 AM »
Well, yes. And that's why I said, in the paragraphs you didn't quote, how G5 programs--who are generally on a higher tier of competition than FCS and below (where most HBCU reside), will still be second-tier to "even bad P5 programs".

You said NIL is "an advantage for the havenots of the world", using Jackson State as one of your two examples. I think the point is that NIL is an advantage for any school that can leverage the star power of someone like Deion Sanders, and not generally for havenots. 
But that's the whole point! A kid can go play for Deion Sanders, or whoever he wants, and still get paid. Before, there was little point to a kid's decision besides trying to play for the best team. Now, playing for the best team is still a big factor, but not the only factor and maybe not even the biggest factor.

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #459 on: January 30, 2022, 11:13:35 AM »
Jackson State signed those guys for precisely 1 reason:  Deion Sanders.
An interesting angle here, if NIL were not in place, the NCAA would be rolling down to Jackson to bury Sanders. 

So it does remove the cloud when a non-traditional recruiting power lands good kids. 

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #460 on: January 30, 2022, 12:31:39 PM »
My first thought about Travis Hunte going to Jackson State.....well my FIRST thought was "Haha, FSU sucks!"
But my 2nd thought was....that kid is going to be bored, if he's actually that good.  Teams won't even throw his way and he's going to have painfully little highlight film to post on his instagram stories or whatever.

And btw, if you look at Jackson State's overall recruiting, it's 115th.  Certainly punching above their weight, but they're still just Jackson State.  Let's not get carried away here.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #461 on: January 30, 2022, 12:45:04 PM »
My first thought about Travis Hunte going to Jackson State.....well my FIRST thought was "Haha, FSU sucks!"
But my 2nd thought was....that kid is going to be bored, if he's actually that good.  Teams won't even throw his way and he's going to have painfully little highlight film to post on his instagram stories or whatever.

And btw, if you look at Jackson State's overall recruiting, it's 115th.  Certainly punching above their weight, but they're still just Jackson State.  Let's not get carried away here.
They only have 6 commits as recruits. But they also have a bunch of transfers, including guys from TAMU and Miami. 

 

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