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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #434 on: January 28, 2022, 09:24:08 PM »
You're right, Tulsa is on par with Oklahoma.  They're equally great, equally talented, and play the same difficulty in schedule.  
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #435 on: January 29, 2022, 08:08:29 AM »
I wonder if it would to have transfers meet the academic requirements for the general student body before admission.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #436 on: January 29, 2022, 08:13:34 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 28, 2022, 09:24:08 PM
You're right, Tulsa is on par with Oklahoma.  They're equally great, equally talented, and play the same difficulty in schedule. 
Never said they were. Kind of explicitly said they weren’t.

But I also don’t find it gross if someone wants to transfer from Tulsa to Oklahoma if they’re good enough to play for Oklahoma. Boo hoo Philip Montgomery, I guess. 
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #437 on: January 29, 2022, 08:16:13 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 29, 2022, 08:08:29 AM
I wonder if it would to have transfers meet the academic requirements for the general student body before admission.
It’s been a minute since I did all that, but if I recall correctly, it tended to be easier to get in as a transfer.

Now if your transcript as a smoking crater, that in itself is a problem, and apparently one that has limited some transfers (and sometimes good students are stoped too). The NCAA requires a certain amount of progress toward a degree, and it can be tricky if you lose a bunch of credits that don’t transfer over.
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« Reply #438 on: January 29, 2022, 10:45:39 AM »
Almost all schools it's substantially easier to get in as a transfer, athlete or not.  My brother had a friend, who didn't get in anywhere.  Did a semester at community college, transferred to WMU for spring semester, transferred to MSU for his sophomore year, then transferred to UM did 2.5 years there, got his degree.

MSU is notoriously irritating about what credits they do and don't accept.  That was something I recall from the 90s, and then I personally experienced it.  I don't think it typically plays into admissions, but I do know MSU had a JUCO OL commit who wasn't admitted because MSU rejected so many of his credits, that they didn't seem him eligible to transfer, so he wound up going to Purdue.
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« Reply #439 on: January 29, 2022, 11:07:43 AM »
Of course, it was a long time ago, but I did not have an easy time transferring into UW. I had my AS degree with a 3.85 GPA, but of course they wanted test scores and even went back to my HS grades, which were 3.5+/- I think.

Initially denied, my professor went to bat for me, and then I got in a few months later. 

Maybe it was because I was in engineering??

Don't know. That was a stressful time, playing that waiting game.
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« Reply #440 on: January 29, 2022, 11:35:38 AM »
I didn't initially get into Florida, but the College of Ed had a spot you had to write in to be accepted in.  I didn't have any sob story, and I wasn't sure if I should write something safe and professional or get super passionate and let it fly.

I let it fly and got in.  
I have no idea how many others applied for that spot, but I was proud of myself for being a little risky and proud of them for not just choosing the biggest sob story.
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« Reply #441 on: January 29, 2022, 04:54:28 PM »
I got into MSU as a transfer easily.  But I had to travel up twice from Bloomington as a college student, on my own dime, to interview, to get into the honors college. And then once I got in, while they accepted all of my credits, a good deal of them transferred in as general credit. So I had to take between 18 and 20 credits every semester to graduate on schedule, just because of all of the requirements I had to fulfill.
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« Reply #442 on: January 29, 2022, 04:55:29 PM »
Also sounds like MSU is getting Illinois' all time leader in TDs among TEs...who I've never actually heard of?
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« Reply #443 on: January 29, 2022, 05:27:50 PM »
Quote from: ELA on January 29, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
Also sounds like MSU is getting Illinois' all time leader in TDs among TEs...who I've never actually heard of?
I wonder how many of us could name 20 non-QB Illinois players.
Butkus, Howard Griffith, that LB trio......uhhh 
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #444 on: January 29, 2022, 06:29:31 PM »
I’m not sure it’s really going to affect the G5 programs all that much. They’ll lose some good players sure. They’ll probably gain some, former 4* players who couldn’t see the field at the Alabama’s and Oklahoma’s of the world. A&M just lost a RB to temple. I never even heard of him. 
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« Reply #445 on: January 29, 2022, 06:49:17 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on January 29, 2022, 06:29:31 PM
I’m not sure it’s really going to affect the G5 programs all that much. They’ll lose some good players sure. They’ll probably gain some, former 4* players who couldn’t see the field at the Alabama’s and Oklahoma’s of the world. A&M just lost a RB to temple. I never even heard of him.
That's just it, the players on elite teams not getting playing time are transferring to the struggling P5 programs.  I honestly don't know what Temple is at the moment, but if I'm not getting playing time at OSU and I'm from Philly, you bet your ass I'm contacting Maryland, Pitt, Syracuse, BC, etc....and IF they don't have room or don't want me, THEN I'll be contacting G5 places.

It's trickling down, but it doesn't trickle straight from Tuscaloosa to Toledo, it visits Knoxville first, then Morgantown, and then Toledo.


*And if it's not happening yet, this is how it will be IF things stay how they are.  I doubt they will.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #446 on: January 29, 2022, 08:20:05 PM »
I feel like we don't even need to delve into the divide between the power 5 and the group of five.  If you like there being two to three legitimate national contenders every year, that are largely the same teams, then this just exacerbates it. And good for those teams. Everyone is applauding how well Michigan State did in the portal this year. And they turned themselves from a 7-5 team, to a 10-2 team.  And that is legitimately their ceiling in the current structure.  Their ceiling is either getting destroyed in the CFP or winning a top tier bowl game that every NFL prospect opts out of.

I honestly don't understand at this point any argument against scrapping the bowls, and just having a 64 team tournament.  Either the best couple teams will continue to dominate, and nothing will change, or they won't, and we will have a national champion who might not be the best team, but we have a legitimately better postseason
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Re: 2022 Transfer Portal
« Reply #447 on: January 29, 2022, 08:27:10 PM »
A way to fix this specific problem isn't difficult to identify, it just won't be implemented.  That's the problem.


64 schools divided into 8 conferences (or 4, it doesn't much matter), all with an equal path at the NC 
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limiting scholarships down to something like 65, with the understanding it may decrease further in the future.  Let the other scholarships go to other sports so the net doesn't change for a university.

But it won't happen, so who cares.
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