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Honestbuckeye

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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2022, 09:45:08 AM »
My suspicion is most votes were cast before last night, so still Caleb Williams.  

He was a warrior last night- almost unstoppable before the injury- and some amazing plays after too.  

He would get my vote.  
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2022, 10:40:37 AM »
A decade ago many votes were cast before the CCG weekend.  These days I'm not so sure.

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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2022, 10:41:59 AM »
no clear front-runner this season, hopefully not as many votes cast yet
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2022, 12:49:24 PM »
four QB's all invited to the ceremony as finalists.... CJ Stroud, Stetson Bennett, Max Duggan, and Caleb Williams. Screaming hot take here: I say give it to Bennett. 
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2022, 02:09:05 PM »
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2022, 12:02:43 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 06, 2022, 12:49:24 PM
four QB's all invited to the ceremony as finalists.... CJ Stroud, Stetson Bennett, Max Duggan, and Caleb Williams. Screaming hot take here: I say give it to Bennett.
If ever there was a year for a defender to win, this would've been a stellar one.

But man, there are no good candidates. 
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2022, 12:07:08 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 07, 2022, 12:02:43 AM
If ever there was a year for a defender to win, this would've been a stellar one.

But man, there are no good candidates.
Yeah, the media failed to connect the public to any particular defender.  It's not like individual defenders as a whole were worse this year than any other year.
Reminder of last year:
media focuses on Hutchinson, who winds up finishing 2nd.
Hutchinson:  62 tackles, 16.5 TFL, 14 sacks
W.Anderson: 101 tackles, 31.0 TFL, 17.5 sacks
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I guess there was no fun narratives this year, to highlight someone having a lesser season?
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2022, 07:36:06 AM »
It's almost too bad they don't have two Heisman's for O and D, but I know they have other awards for such things, without quite as much oomph.

The best defensive player, really, could be a guy with little by way of statistical numbers but who made everyone around him better.

The best offensive player could be the same, some OL dude.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2022, 07:47:31 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 07, 2022, 07:36:06 AM
It's almost too bad they don't have two Heisman's for O and D, but I know they have other awards for such things, without quite as much oomph.

The best defensive player, really, could be a guy with little by way of statistical numbers but who made everyone around him better.

The best offensive player could be the same, some OL dude.
would be cool to see a dominant OL win the Heisman one of these days. If Orlando Pace didn't win it that year he had in '96, an OL ain't ever gonna win it. Ditto for DL with Hugh Green at Pitt or Suh at Nebraska.

Heisman has morphed into same thing as the NFL MVP- let's just give it to the best QB on the best team.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2022, 08:15:51 AM »
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2022, 09:33:02 AM »
ESPN on the 1997 Heisman controversy. Fat Phil Fulmer still mad Peyton didn't win it. Peyton kinda choked in the big games that year. Woodson just made insane plays in the big games. Bigger the moment, bigger he played that year. Both were obviously incredible all-time great players in not only college but the NFL. That might've been the best finalist class ever with Randy Moss and Ryan Leaf as well. Sure, Leaf was an NFL bust but he was the leading passer in college that year and he had ridiculous arm strength and size, meanwhile Peyton, CWood, and Moss all 1st ballot NFL HOF'ers and honestly just generational players.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35181627/peyton-manning-charles-woodson-heisman-title-conspiracies
 
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2022, 09:36:49 AM »
Maybe they should have some years with none and some with two ... ha ha.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2022, 12:20:58 PM »
It's not a difficult fix, the Heisman people simply need to change the description of who the Heisman goes to.  No big deal.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2022, 12:47:53 PM »
QB or RB on a top ten  team with several really flashy highlights plays on Sportscenter ... and some good raw numbers.
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