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Topic: 2022 Heisman Race

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2022, 01:02:53 PM »
"lost to"
Yeah, USC lost to Utah in October.
USC scored 42 points.
That's not a mark against him that his defense gave up 43.
Don't be  misleading.  
There's no need.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2022, 01:13:58 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 11, 2022, 01:02:53 PM
"lost to"
Yeah, USC lost to Utah in October.
USC scored 42 points.
That's not a mark against him that his defense gave up 43.
Don't be  misleading. 
There's no need.
lost to TWICE. How many pts did he put up vs Utah when it actually mattered in the CCG? 

Where was this kids "Heisman moment" vs a really good team/defense? Severely lacking. He won the Heisman for what? For beating a crappy Notre Dame team that struggled mightily to beat a craptastic Cal team at home and oh yeah lost two games at home to a Marshall team from the Sunbelt and 3-9 Stanford and only has more than 6 wins bc it gets to play a bunch of crappy ACC teams and service academies? Lol.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2022, 01:20:09 PM »
Wow, you're really passionate about this.  Weird.
Williams won the Heisman because he was a known guy before the season started, he threw for 4,000 yards, ran for 10 TDs, and had lots of great, athletic plays.
People aren't savvy when it comes to these things.  They care less about how good a defense he faces and more about the overall team he's playing against.  Yes, that's limited.  Beating the #10 team with a shitty D impresses people more than beating the 25th-ranked team with a top 10 D.  
Plus no one else MADE voters pick them.  Corum got hurt.  Hooker got hurt.  
I don't understand the hate for Williams.  He's as good a pick as any.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2022, 01:23:12 PM »
I'd have voted for Duggan, as I noted, I think the character thing is more in his favor.  But whatever.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2022, 01:29:55 PM »
Ohh the pearl-clutching over the fingernails.

Amazing.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2022, 05:13:47 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 11, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
Ohh the pearl-clutching over the fingernails.

Amazing.
Do you think Williams is a runaway top candidate?
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2022, 05:24:31 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 11, 2022, 05:13:47 PM
Do you think Williams is a runaway top candidate?
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 11, 2022, 01:20:09 PM

I don't understand the hate for Williams.  He's as good a pick as any.
No.  But no one else is, either.  Thus my confusion.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #91 on: December 12, 2022, 09:45:37 AM »
I'd have voted for Duggan, who apparently is as good a choice as any since there is no runaway obvious candidate.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2022, 10:17:51 AM »
I'd have gone with Coleridge Bernard "C. J." Stroud IV

the best stats and a pretty good team
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2022, 12:32:42 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 12, 2022, 09:45:37 AM
I'd have voted for Duggan, who apparently is as good a choice as any since there is no runaway obvious candidate.
He IS as good as choice as any, which is why he was a runaway 2nd-place finisher.  The other 2 were waaaay behind.
It'd be as weird for someone to freak out over your Duggan pick as it is to flip out about Williams winning it.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2022, 12:38:59 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 11, 2022, 01:29:55 PM
Ohh the pearl-clutching over the fingernails.

Amazing.
Seems to me you were the one "freaking out" over my choice.  Nobody here much seems to care who won, we just express our personal opinions, and NEARLY everyone seems to understand that.
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2022, 01:07:46 PM »
I barely watched Caleb Williams, thus I can't argue with the selection.

When I picked Bijan for my hypothetical vote, that was just out of the pool of guys I watched this year.  

There's probably usually an offensive tackle or something out there somewhere that may be the actual most outstanding player in college football and I don't even know the name of the team he plays for.  
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Re: 2022 Heisman Race
« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2022, 01:12:36 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on December 12, 2022, 12:38:59 PM
Seems to me you were the one "freaking out" over my choice.  Nobody here much seems to care who won, we just express our personal opinions, and NEARLY everyone seems to understand that.
Do you have mdot21 blocked or something? lol
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