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Topic: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1344 on: March 17, 2023, 11:18:36 AM »
To be clear, you don’t mean the portal as much as the free transfer thing.

I tend to agree, the speed bump thing is good. I care less about Skyy Clark. Seems like the kid had some issues. Been a just wild couple of years for Illinois on the portal front.
Correct.  Keep the portal, reinstate the redshirt year

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1345 on: March 17, 2023, 11:24:06 AM »
this doesnt make sense
doesnt the number 1 seed play the 16th seed and so on
here the number 1 seed has played a total of 258 games but the number 16 has played only 1 time
seems like they should be roughly the same
I've jumped on to second round games here so no, they don't all play the same number because only the first round winners get a chance to play a second round game. 

I have no idea where your 258 figure came from.  The #1 seeds have played 147 second round games and they went 126-21.  The #16 seeds have played only one second round game and they went 0-1. 

If you want a check figure it is that each first round pairing will have 148 second round games:
  • #1's are 126-21, #16's are 0-1:  126+21+1=148. 
  • #2's are 93-45, #15's are 3-7:  93+45+3+7=148.
  • #3's are 77-49, #14's are 2-20:  77+49+2+20=148. 
  • . . .
  • #8's are 15-56, #9's are 7-70:  15+56+7+70=148.  


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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1346 on: March 17, 2023, 01:49:23 PM »
this doesnt make sense
doesnt the number 1 seed play the 16th seed and so on
here the number 1 seed has played a total of 258 games but the number 16 has played only 1 time
seems like they should be roughly the same


Yes, that was for 2nd round games, or the round of 32.  Since the #16 seed has only made it to the 2nd round once,  they are only 0-1 in 2nd round games. 

On the other hand,  the #1 seed has made it to the 2nd round a total of 147 out of 148 possible times in the last 37 years.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1347 on: March 17, 2023, 02:10:58 PM »
If USC was even mildly competent on offense, this game would be tied

This is the exact same thing as the Iowa game.  6 straight empty trips, including 3 straight missed front ends, but USC just keeps turning it over

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« Reply #1348 on: March 17, 2023, 02:17:24 PM »
If USC was even mildly competent on offense, this game would be tied

This is the exact same thing as the Iowa game.  6 straight empty trips, including 3 straight missed front ends, but USC just keeps turning it over
Hoggard really does have an issue in the last 2 minutes making free throws

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1349 on: March 17, 2023, 02:21:36 PM »
Big time.  Cost us 2 games at least this season, maybe 3(?), and certainly made a couple others closer

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« Reply #1350 on: March 17, 2023, 02:33:13 PM »
Big time.  Cost us 2 games at least this season, maybe 3(?), and certainly made a couple others closer
Good win, I had your boys -2.5

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« Reply #1351 on: March 17, 2023, 02:44:44 PM »
Big time.  Cost us 2 games at least this season, maybe 3(?), and certainly made a couple others closer
Won y’all at least one. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1352 on: March 17, 2023, 02:47:23 PM »
Xavier-Kennesaw coming down to the wire.

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« Reply #1353 on: March 17, 2023, 02:52:23 PM »
I also saw the TV slots are exactly the same for Saturday and Sunday. I feel like those Sunday tip times get worse every year. The only bad thing about moving games off CBS, is no longer needing to finish all of the Sunday games before 60 Minutes.  Only two games start before 5:00, and four of them start after 7:00. Can't wait for 9:30 Sunday night tip

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1354 on: March 17, 2023, 02:52:58 PM »
Iowa legend Jack Nunge

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« Reply #1355 on: March 17, 2023, 02:56:29 PM »
I also saw the TV slots are exactly the same for Saturday and Sunday. I feel like those Sunday tip times get worse every year. The only bad thing about moving games off CBS, is no longer needing to finish all of the Sunday games before 60 Minutes.  Only two games start before 5:00, and four of them start after 7:00. Can't wait for 9:30 Sunday night tip
Agree.  They keep pushing the Sunday tips later every year.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1356 on: March 17, 2023, 02:57:22 PM »
Good win, I had your boys -2.5
This and Northwestern are the key first round wins for our league.

As I showed before the Tournament began, this group of seeds (1, 4, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 10) typically results in just under five teams making it to the second round (4.87) and just over two making it to the S16 (2.11).

I saw a high potential for variability though because six of the eight are middling (7-10) seeds with a close to coin-flip probability:
  • #7 wins 61% of first round games
  • #9 wins 52% of first round games
  • #8 wins 48% of first round games
  • #10 wins 39% of first round games

We had two #7's, two #8's, a #9, and a #10. On average those typically generate just over three wins (3.09) and we got four.

Our last two teams to play are a #1 which has a 99.3% chance to win and a #4 which has a 79% chance to win.

Our challenge going forward is that 7-10 seeds have a terrible record in second round games. 7's, 8's, and 10's that make it to the second round have only a 31%, 21%, and 41% chance of winning. Still, based on past tournaments, our two #7's, #8, and #10 should be good for 1.2 S16's.


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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #1357 on: March 17, 2023, 03:10:25 PM »
Regarding the second round, I like MSU's and PSU's chances the best. Maryland has Bama in Birmingham and Northwestern has UCLA in Sacramento. MSU has (probably) Marquette in Columbus while PSU has Texas in Des Moines.

 

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