2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

[medinabuckeye1]

Wisconsin swept Penn State @medinabuckeye1. It's honestly one of the few sources of joy from this season.

Also, this season, it irks me deeply. I do not like this thing where I functionally know the team's best ballhandler has ability, but is simply not playing close to as well as I think he is able to.

Oops, my bad. Teach me to post in the middle of the night half asleep 

[847badgerfan]

I stayed up. Wish I had not.

[FearlessF]

went to bed at the half

[bayareabadger]

I stayed up. Wish I had not.

I didn’t watch it live. Caught up on some after.

for is not that good as this team is, it has a great ability to being games it probably shouldn’t. Also let many opponents stay in games they probably shouldn’t.

All told, this team has lost 12 games. nine of them have been extremely there for the taking. Granted, they have a bunch of wins they could’ve lost, but would have been so terrible if they had flipped a single one of those, which would put them one Minnesota win away from the tournament?

[847badgerfan]

They find a way to cough up games, that's for sure. They had many chances this year, and last night.

[ELA]

And the 2023 B1G title race is over. Purdue is outright Champion.

Well deserved.

First team to win it outright since MSU in 2018, excluding the weird COVID year where UM only played 17 games

[medinabuckeye1]

Since I screwed up the potential 9-11 ties last night let me redo the scenarios as to which teams will play on Wednesday. 

Minnesota and Ohio State will play on Wednesday as the #14 and #13 seeds respectively. 

If Penn State (vsUMD) wins or if Wisconsin (@MN) and Nebraska (@IA) both lose then Wisconsin and Nebraska play on Wednesday. 

We get into tiebreakers if Penn State loses AND Wisconsin or Nebraska or both win. Tiebreakers:

• Penn State: 1-1 vs UNL,  0-2 vs UW
• Wisconsin: 2-0 vs PSU, 0-1 vs UNL
• Nebraska: 1-0 vs UW, 1-1 vs Penn State 

If Penn State and Wisconsin tie:

• Wisconsin gets the #10 seed
• Penn State gets the #11 seed
• Nebraska gets the #12 seed

If Penn State and Nebraska tie:

• Wisconsin gets the #12 seed
• PSU and UNL get the #10 and #11. The determination between them is based on wins against best teams which is TBD based on which teams end up with the best record. 

If Penn State, Wisconsin, and Nebraska all tie:

• Penn State gets the #12 seed.
• UNL and UW get the #10 and #11. The determination between them is based on wins against the best teams which is TBD based on which teams end up with the best record. 

[boilerbanger]

This weekend is going to be fun to see where all the seeds fall out for the tourney ... I think every game this weekend will have an impact on a teams seed.

[bayareabadger]

There is an interesting question for Wisconsin in terms of who it would potentially want to play. (assuming they don’t barf up the game to the gophers, which might be a grand assumption)

More than anything, win volume is an issue at the moment. in theory, getting Minnesota a second time would be the best for that, though winning two in a row against the same team seems difficult. Ohio State would be better for the résumé by a lot, but also more difficult.

Basically, if the Badgers lose the next one or one of the next two, they are toast. If they win the next two and then lose, they are hoping for an exceptionally soft bubble. If they win the next three and then lose, they probably have a decent chance at the play-in.

(this all assumes that their net rating is not held against them, which it’s not supposed to be but sometimes it is)

[847badgerfan]

I would rather they not make the NCAA, and then skip the NIT.

Being very honest here.

[medinabuckeye1]

There is an interesting question for Wisconsin in terms of who it would potentially want to play. (assuming they don’t barf up the game to the gophers, which might be a grand assumption)

I agree with your take (in the rest of your post).

Wisconsin's potential seeds are:

• #10 whose path is #7, #2
• #11 whose path is #14 (MN), #6, #3
• #12 whose path is #13 (tOSU), #5, #4

As much as I've been annoyed with Ohio State's disaster of a season, IMHO, the Buckeyes have a MUCH higher ceiling than the Gophers.

Ohio State's floor is obviously terrible and if the Buckeyes play near it, Wisconsin would get an easy win playing them. Additionally, that win would help Wisconsin's numbers a LOT more than beating Minnesota. The problem, as I see it from Wisconsin's perspective, is that Ohio State's ceiling is high enough to beat Wisconsin and a first round exit from the BTT would obviously be fatal to Wisconsin's tournament hopes.

Bottom line, I think the best-case-scenario for Wisconsin is to get the #11 seed. Then their path is:

• Minnesota on Wednesday. Winning doesn't really help other than win volume but the win should be nearly automatic.
• The #6 seed on Thursday. This should be a challenging but "winnable" game.
• The #3 seed on Friday. This should be another challenging but "winnable" game and Wisconsin probably wouldn't need to win it.

[bayareabadger]

I would rather they not make the NCAA, and then skip the NIT.

Being very honest here.

Why the hell not?

[bayareabadger]

I agree with your take (in the rest of your post).

Wisconsin's potential seeds are:

• #10 whose path is #7, #2
• #11 whose path is #14 (MN), #6, #3
• #12 whose path is #13 (tOSU), #5, #4

As much as I've been annoyed with Ohio State's disaster of a season, IMHO, the Buckeyes have a MUCH higher ceiling than the Gophers.

Ohio State's floor is obviously terrible and if the Buckeyes play near it, Wisconsin would get an easy win playing them. Additionally, that win would help Wisconsin's numbers a LOT more than beating Minnesota. The problem, as I see it from Wisconsin's perspective, is that Ohio State's ceiling is high enough to beat Wisconsin and a first round exit from the BTT would obviously be fatal to Wisconsin's tournament hopes.

Bottom line, I think the best-case-scenario for Wisconsin is to get the #11 seed. Then their path is:

• Minnesota on Wednesday. Winning doesn't really help other than win volume but the win should be nearly automatic.
• The #6 seed on Thursday. This should be a challenging but "winnable" game.
• The #3 seed on Friday. This should be another challenging but "winnable" game and Wisconsin probably wouldn't need to win it.

This "easy win." What is that?

[rolltidefan]

I would rather they not make the NCAA, and then skip the NIT.

Being very honest here.

think of nit like a non-bcs bowl. no one really wants it, but it's still very useful if for nothing else than more practices for the young guys.