2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

[ELA]

Conference's second best team

[bayareabadger]

If Rutgers loses this home game, at what point are they in danger of missing the tournament.  Theyve been horrible since Mag had his season ending injury, and they always say they factor that into selection

Probably not until they have lost every regular season game left. I think the rule about missing someone only counts for seating. Not selection.

[medinabuckeye1]

If Rutgers loses this home game, at what point are they in danger of missing the tournament.  Theyve been horrible since Mag had his season ending injury, and they always say they factor that into selection

I think this is a good illustration of why you and I and, by extension, this thread takes a very literal view of the term "lock".  They might be in trouble.  

When they beat MSU back on 2/4 that moved them to 16-7/8-4 and a lot of people would have said they were a "lock" but since then they have lost four of five and they only escaped Madison by the skin of their teeth.  They are now 17-11/9-8 and in distinct danger of falling further.  The good/bad news is that one of their remaining games is at Minnesota.  That is good because they should win but it is bad because if they don't that would be a BAD loss.  Remaining games:

• at Penn State Sunday at 630
• at Minnesota next Thursday at 7
• vs Northwestern 3/5 at 7:30.  
• BTT

If they lost out they'd finish 17-15 with a sub .500 league record.  That, IMHO, would not be in.  

[medinabuckeye1]

Wow, the Wildcats are putting on a show in Champagne-Urbana!

I spoke too soon.

Nice comeback Illini!

Purdue can now clinch a title by beating their instate rivals at home on Saturday. 

[medinabuckeye1]

Update after the 2/23 games:
Projected final standings/BTT seeds:

• 16-4/27-4 Purdue
• 12-8/21-10 Maryland
• 12-8/21-10 Northwestern
• 12-8/21-10 Indiana
• 12-8/21-10 Illinois
• 11-8/19-11 Michigan State
• 11-9/19-12 Iowa
• 11-9/17-14 Michigan
• 11-9/19-12 Rutgers
• 10-10/19-12 Penn State
• 9-11/17-13 Wisconsin
• 8-12/15-16 Nebraska
• 3-17/11-20 Ohio State
• 1-18/7-22 Minnesota

The first tiebreaker for the 12-8 tie between UMD, NU, IU, and IL is H2H..2H :

• 3-0 Maryland because they don't visit Evanston, Bloomington, nor College Park.  
• 3-2 Northwestern because they don't host the Terps and won in Bloomington.  
• 2-3 Indiana because they don't host the Terps, won in Champaign, and lost at home to the Wildcats.  
• 1-4 Illinois because they don't host the Terps and lost at home to the Hoosiers.  

The first tiebreaker for the 11-9 tie between IA, M, and RU is H2H2H:

• 3-0 Iowa because they don't visit Ann Arbor and won in Piscataway.  
• 1-1 Michigan because they don't host Rutgers nor Iowa and won in Piscataway.  
• 0-3 Rutgers because they don't visit Ann Arbor and lost at home to both Iowa and Michigan.  

Thus, the projected match-ups for the BTT at the United Center in Chicago, Illinois are:
Wednesday, March 8, BTN:

• #11 Wisconsin vs #14 Minnesota, 830
• #12 Nebraska vs #13 Ohio State, 6

Thursday, March 9, BTN:

• #5 Illinois vs UNL/tOSU, 230
• #6 Michigan State vs UW/MN, 9
• #7 Iowa vs #10 Penn State, 630
• #8 Michigan vs #9 Rutgers, noon

Friday, March 10, BTN:

• #1 Purdue vs M/RU, noon
• #2 Maryland vs IA/PSU, 630
• #3 Northwestern vs MSU/UW/MN, 9
• #4 Indiana vs IL/UNL/tOSU, 230

Saturday, March 11, CBS:

• PU/M/RU vs IU/IL/UNL/tOSU, 1
• UMD/IA/PSU vs NU/MSU/UW/MN, 330

Sunday, March 12, CBS:

• PU/M/RU/IU/IL/UNL/tOSU vs UMD/IA/PSU/NU/MSU/UW/MN, 330

[ELA]

Didn't see that meltdown coming

[ELA]

Sounds like Rutgers isnt willing to move their game up. Maybe they'd like it back in the AAC?


https://twitter.com/PaulFanson/status/1628987570745925633?t=W_qtiObuMfgeg6YH6e-BMA&s=19

[medinabuckeye1]

Sounds like Rutgers isnt willing to move their game up. Maybe they'd like it back in the AAC?


https://twitter.com/PaulFanson/status/1628987570745925633?t=W_qtiObuMfgeg6YH6e-BMA&s=19

Sucks for MSU. The teams are so bunched up that right now this projects to be the difference between 2nd and 6th place.

I have a thought for Izzo to propose:

• MSU's final game is already on Saturday (vs tOSU).
• Move Minnesota's final game (vs UW) up to Saturday from Sunday.
• MSU can host MN the Monday of the BTT.

I think there would be two potential objections:

• MN would then be playing Thursday (Vs RU), Saturday (Vs UW), Monday (At MSU), Wednesday (BTT).
• The field for the BTT couldn't be set until Monday night.

[847badgerfan]

Minnesota forfeit. Problem solved.

[ELA]

Sucks for MSU. The teams are so bunched up that right now this projects to be the difference between 2nd and 6th place.

I have a thought for Izzo to propose:

• MSU's final game is already on Saturday (vs tOSU).
• Move Minnesota's final game (vs UW) up to Saturday from Sunday.
• MSU can host MN the Monday of the BTT.

I think there would be two potential objections:

• MN would then be playing Thursday (Vs RU), Saturday (Vs UW), Monday (At MSU), Wednesday (BTT).
• The field for the BTT couldn't be set until Monday night.

That was my second suggestion.  But I think the highlighted part is the issue, particularly if there is a chance MSU could finish 11th.  I think impacting other teams travel plans for Thursday vs. Friday isn't such a big deal, but if it could impact the Wednesday games, that gets tricky

[medinabuckeye1]

That was my second suggestion.  But I think the highlighted part is the issue, particularly if there is a chance MSU could finish 11th.  I think impacting other teams travel plans for Thursday vs. Friday isn't such a big deal, but if it could impact the Wednesday games, that gets tricky

I hadn't thought of the possibility of MSU finishing 11th. Like you, I was thinking that the Thursday/Friday difference wasn't critical.

Now that you mention it though, it isn't just that MSU might finish 11th, even without actually finishing 11th themselves they could end up altering a potential 10th/11th tiebreaker.

MSU is currently in 7th at 9-7 but the teams are so bunched up that they are only:

• 1.5 games behind #2
• 0.5 games behind #3
• 0.5 games ahead of #9
• 1.5 games ahead of #11

Things are so bunched up that MSU's finish could impact the seeds of all but PU, tOSU, and MN.

[ELA]

https://twitter.com/Graham_Couch/status/1629150290682212352?t=RVxy_V54njmqgIzNsgTnzg&s=19

[medinabuckeye1]

KenPom with three games to go:

• 4 Purdue
• 17 Maryland 
• 25 Indiana 
• 27 Illinois 
• 29 Michigan State 
• 33 Rutgers 
• 42 Northwestern 
• 44 Michigan 
• 46 Iowa
• 50 Penn State 
• 64 Wisconsin 
• 70 Ohio State
• 89 Nebraska
• 222 Minnesota 

NET:

• 5 Purdue 
• 20 Indiana 
• 23 Maryland 
• 30 Illinois 
• 35 Michigan State 
• 37 Rutgers
• 39 Northwestern 
• 44 Iowa
• 53 Michigan 
• 56 Penn State 
• 70 Wisconsin 
• 71 Ohio State 
• 88 Nebraska 
• 237 Minnesota 

[ELA]

MSU's SOS is up to #4 in KenPom (helps that it looks like they will get zero games against a historically bad Minnesota team), and is the only non-Big XII team in the top 7.  They've also played the hardest average offensive rating of any team in the country.