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Topic: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #252 on: November 29, 2022, 06:39:48 PM »
Massey Composite Rankings (35 rankings)


  • Houston
  • PURDUE
  • Texas
  • Connecticut
  • Arizona
  • Tennessee
  • Gonzaga
  • Baylor
  • Virginia
  • Alabama
  • Creighton
  • Auburn
  • Arkansas
  • INDIANA
  • Kansas
  • ILLINOIS
  • UCLA
  • MARYLAND
  • Duke
  • North Carolina
  • Mississippi State
  • West Virginia
  • Kentucky
  • Saint Mary's
  • OHIO STATE


  • 26. Iowa
  • 29. Michigan State
  • 35. Penn State
  • 37. Wisconsin
  • 42. Northwestern
  • 45. Rutgers
  • 55. Michigan
  • 111. Nebraska
  • 160. Minnesota

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #253 on: November 29, 2022, 10:24:37 PM »
I think the UM-MSU rivalry toxicity would be solved if MSU would go back to sucking at football, and UM sucking at basketball.  Then, there are no stakes other than pulling an upset, and seeing MSU's sad football attendance this year, and now UMs sad basketball attendance, I don't think the fan bases would actually care that much

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« Reply #254 on: November 29, 2022, 10:50:22 PM »
My first resume only Bracket of the year (2/3 SOR, 1/3 KenPom), for now using SOR to determine regular season champ, and KenPom for tourney champ

NCAA
SOUTH
  • #1 PURDUE vs. #16 Texas A&M-CC/Montana State
  • #8 Memphis vs. #9 UNLV
  • #5 Arkansas vs. #12 Nevada/MICHIGAN
  • #4 Kansas State vs. #13 UAB
  • #3 Alabama vs. #14 Oral Roberts
  • #6 OHIO STATE vs. #11 North Carolina
  • #7 ILLINOIS vs. #10 Ole Miss
  • #2 Texas vs. #15 Furman
EAST
  • #1 Connecticut vs. #16 Southern/Longwood
  • #8 Oklahoma vs. #9 Florida Atlantic
  • #5 MICHIGAN STATE vs. #12 Towson
  • #4 Tennessee vs. #13 Yale
  • #3 MARYLAND vs. #14 Norfolk State
  • #6 St. John's vs. #10 Saint Louis
  • #7 IOWA vs. #10 Duke
  • #2 Kansas vs. #15 Iona
MIDWEST
  • #1 Virginia vs. #16 Colgate
  • #8 Drake vs. #9 PENN STATE
  • #5 West Virginia vs. #12 Charleston
  • #4 Mississippi State vs. #13 Kent State
  • #3 Auburn vs. #14 Youngstown State
  • #6 Baylor vs. #11 New Mexico/Virginia Tech
  • #7 Miami vs. #10 Missouri
  • #2 INDIANA vs. #15 Liberty
WEST
  • #1 Houston vs. #16 Wagner
  • #8 Sam Houston State vs. #9 Iowa State
  • #5 San Diego State vs. #12 UC Irvine
  • #4 Gonzaga vs. #13 UM Lowell
  • #3 Creighton vs. #14 James Madison
  • #6 WISCONSIN vs. #11 Saint Mary's
  • #7 Utah State vs. #10 NC State
  • #2 Arizona vs. #15 SIU Edwardsville

NIT
TEMPE
  • #1 Arizona State vs. #8 Denver
  • #4 Boise State vs. #5 Oklahoma State
  • #3 Texas A&M vs. #6 Santa Clara
  • #2 Southern Miss vs. #7 Quinnipiac
LOS ANGELES
  • #1 UCLA vs. #8 Alcorn State
  • #4 NORTHWESTERN vs. #5 Louisiana
  • #3 Xavier vs. #6 Western Kentucky
  • #2 Kentucky vs. #7 Florida Gulf Coast
SAN FRANCISCO
  • #1 San Francisco vs. #8 Portland State
  • #4 Texas Tech vs. #5 Hofstra
  • #3 Marquette vs. #6 Bryant
  • #2 Washington vs. #7 Navy
BATON ROUGE
  • #1 LSU vs. #8 Northwestern State
  • #4 Duquesne vs. #5 RUTGERS
  • #3 Davidson vs. #6 Colorado
  • #2 TCU vs. #7 High Point

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #255 on: November 29, 2022, 11:17:33 PM »
I think Michigan is going to regret running off Frankie Collins for this transfer, their offense appears to be just jacking up threes, or hoping Dickerson can win one on ones. Juwan is a defense coach, and it's clear he has no sets in the half court. He needs a PG to run some stuff, and Llewellyn isn't that

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #256 on: November 29, 2022, 11:31:56 PM »
Yikes, Dickinson shoved the player, and then elbowed him in the face, and rather than an offensive foul, followed by a technical foul, its a foul on the defense?  Go Big Ten

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #257 on: November 29, 2022, 11:36:57 PM »
So we are 0-2 and BPI/Vegas says we should win seven and lose five of the rest. I like our odds because we don't have any hopeless underdogs (like Minnesota was), we don't have any really close favorites, and we have three really close underdogs. Basically I'd group these as:
  • Four that should win easily, IA, UMD, IL, IU
  • Three that should win but it is somewhat close, UNL, UE, PU
  • Three that are nearly toss-ups, PSU, tOSU, MSU
  • Two that should lose but it is somewhat close, M, RU


Well, Wisconsin getting upset, and Michigan not taking advantage of the late ref gifts might lose us the final one

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #258 on: November 30, 2022, 12:33:49 AM »
Well, Wisconsin getting upset, and Michigan not taking advantage of the late ref gifts might lose us the final one
Yeah, not looking so good now.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #259 on: November 30, 2022, 10:26:23 AM »
We are now 3-5 and here is what is left with lines from the ap on my phone (sorted best BIG chance to worst):

  • Purdue -15.5 at FSU
  • Nebraska -6 vs BC
  • Indiana -4.5 vs UNC
  • Michigan State -2.5 at ND
  • Rutgers +3 at Miami
  • tOSU +5.5 at Dook

According to my phone we should go 4-2 tonight to tie this up. 

Our two underdogs are reasonably close so we have a chance to pick up an extra win either in Coral Gables or Durham but three of our four favorites are also reasonably close so we could also lose a game we are favored in.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #260 on: November 30, 2022, 10:44:01 AM »
I think Michigan is going to regret running off Frankie Collins for this transfer, their offense appears to be just jacking up threes, or hoping Dickerson can win one on ones. Juwan is a defense coach, and it's clear he has no sets in the half court. He needs a PG to run some stuff, and Llewellyn isn't that
Completely agree with this. The Michigan backcourt is rough to watch. The first half isn’t going to be replicable very often.

That being said. I don’t love how much contact officiating allowed in the 2nd half. Virginia definitely took advantage and became far more aggressive and physical because of it. That also made me scratch my head when Dickinson didn’t half something called on him for a clear foul on him for his elbows swinging high. 

Fickinson and Jett will keep them in a lot of games, but the backcourt will lose them many.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #261 on: November 30, 2022, 07:28:09 PM »
On the radio they said that the basketball Buckeyes have defeated the Blue Devils, directly following each of their last two Michigan FB losses. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #262 on: November 30, 2022, 07:30:06 PM »
I think the UM-MSU rivalry toxicity would be solved if MSU would go back to sucking at football, and UM sucking at basketball.  Then, there are no stakes other than pulling an upset, and seeing MSU's sad football attendance this year, and now UMs sad basketball attendance, I don't think the fan bases would actually care that much
Michigan sucking at basketball and MSU being really good at basketball meanwhile Michigan being really good at football and Michigan State sucking at football just feels right to me. Like, that's the way it's suppose to be.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #263 on: November 30, 2022, 09:14:17 PM »
Purdue struggling with FSU for some reason. 

Rutgers couldn't pull the upset.

Ohio State about out of time.

We are going to need three close favorites tonight to win just to salvage a tie in the final B1G/ACC Challenge. 

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #264 on: November 30, 2022, 10:08:18 PM »
Sheesh.  ELA, I know that you are busy with not being able to take your eyes off of the traffic accident that is ND / MSU, but since I know you are such a fan of crowds booing every call, I reccomend not turning on the IU / NC game.

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Re: 2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #265 on: December 01, 2022, 08:41:18 AM »
We were favored to win 8-6 but ended up losing 8-6 because none of our underdogs managed to pull an upset and two of our favorites lost badly.

Apparently this thing is now over and we lost overall 13-8-3 in 24 years. I'll add some good and some bad perspective to that:

  • Good: After losing the first ten (1999-2008) the B1G went 8-3-3 the past 14 years.
  • Bad: Two of the three losses were BAD (11-3 in 2017 and 9-5 in 2016) while nearly all the wins were 8-6 or 7-5 type deals.

I'll be sad to see it go.

 

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