2021 ludicruous recruting thread

[847badgerfan]

Sort of. He would be the highest who is listed as a tight end. They converted a defensive end and WR who were rated higher.

Travis Beckum too. He was a LB recruit with offers from everyone.

[847badgerfan]

Anyway, I think Pugh will commit to State Penn. 

[bayareabadger]

Travis Beckum too. He was a LB recruit with offers from everyone.

I meant LB when I wrote DE. I knew Beckum was kinda a hybrid. 

That class was super weird. They took five listed linebacker, plus an TE/athlete who became a linebacker. They were:
Beckum: one of the best recruits UW has ever had who went from defensive wrecking ball to 900-yard TE
O'Brien Schofield: Ended up at DE. A bit player for three years, he stepped in as a so-so starter on that bad 2008 team and then put up 12 sacks and 24.5 TFL as a senior for some HM AA nods.
DeAndre Levy: Three-year starter, twice second-team all-conference. Eventually earned a second-team all-pro nod in the NFL and was considered one of the best coverage linebackers out there.
Jonathan Casillas: Three-year starter, good play-maker, led the team in tackles once. Carved out nine years in the league.
Elijah Hodge: Brother of the former Iowa star, he was the 26th-highest rated recruit to every sign with UW. He waited behind veterans for two years (stealing a moped along the way), then was kind of forgettable as the started in the middle in 2007. Lost the starting job the next year and then transferred to Northern Iowa, where he was the fourth-leading tackler on a team that was better than its record. 

The other guy
Jaevery McFadden: Rounded into a solid two-year starter who led the team in tackles twice. 

[CatsbyAZ]

The state of California has been bleeding elite recruits leaving the state for programs on the other side of the country. USC being a shit show for a decade has opened the flood gates to the entire country.

It was incredibly rare for Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson, etc., etc.. to pull elite recruits from California. Under Pete Carroll this basically never happened.

California would lose an elite 5* here or there to Oregon and out of area to like Notre Dame or maybe Michigan or Ohio State or Florida State once in awhile. That was basically it.

Now it’s a free for all.

And back when USC (under Carroll) had a lock on all elite prospects west of the Rockies, Cal under Tedford and UCLA under Dorrell/Nuey did a good job of keeping the what USC didn't have room for away from the rest of the nation. If you were Notre Dame, Florida, Texas, etc not only did you defer to USC but you had an uphill battle Vs Cal and UCLA.

[MrNubbz]

Travis Beckum too. He was a LB recruit with offers from everyone.

I always liked him,think he only did like 4-5 yrs in the League.He had good hands and speed.Can't remember who was tossing the rock to him

[bayareabadger]

I always liked him,think he only did like 4-5 yrs in the League.He had good hands and speed.Can't remember who was tossing the rock to him

He was kinda a big WR. Not much of a blocker. He was weirdly UW's most productive TE, but there's at least 2-3 I'd take ahead of him.

His QB's were John Stocco, then Tyler Donovan, then a couple not good guys before he got hurt as a senior. 

I'm not sure if his legacy was helped or hurt by that last year. Had he left and they went to shit, he'd be blamed, but he stayed and had a bunch of issues and it went to shit. 

[MaximumSam]

Four star corner Denzel Burke commits to the Bucks out of Arizona

[Mdot21]

4* LB out of Tennessee, Junior Colson commits to Michigan. 

[CWSooner]

4* LB out of Tennessee, Junior Colson commits to Michigan.

Michigan, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Notre Dame were mentioned elsewhere as former Kings now sliding--or having already slid--into Dukes' territory.
A Tennessee program going well doesn't lose a 4-star linebacker to a Michigan program that still disappoints.
Could academics be the reason?

[ELA]

Michigan, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Notre Dame were mentioned elsewhere as former Kings now sliding--or having already slid--into Dukes' territory.
A Tennessee program going well doesn't lose a 4-star linebacker to a Michigan program that still disappoints.
Could academics be the reason?

Eh, one offs happen all the time.  Tennessee is still recruiting quite well.

[CWSooner]

Eh, one offs happen all the time.  Tennessee is still recruiting quite well.

Yeah.

But it's not like he just committed to Clemson or Bama.

[Mdot21]

Yeah.

But it's not like he just committed to Clemson or Bama.

a) Michigan can still recruit nationally- it is still a big-time brand. Maybe not quite to the degree that Clemson or Bama or Ohio State can at the moment- and honestly no one is recruiting at that level right now- maybe Georgia as well- and that's pretty much it. Michigan can still however pull top kids from anywhere in the country. When they were a dominant brand in the 90s and early 2000s- they used to be able to recruit on that same level. When you fail to win and slide into mediocrity- the dominant recruiting wanes. But Michigan is still a name brand and the block M can at least get them in the door into almost any recruitment.

b) Michigan has always recruited Tennessee relatively well- when there were recruits there worth nabbing- there hardly ever is. There was a 4* WR that they landed out of Tennessee a couple years back- he was the #2 player in Tennesee- he wound up getting kicked out of Michigan but that is neither here or there.

c) The kid isn't originally from Tennessee, he is originally from Haiti, he's only been in the US for 8 years and when he started following college football, Michigan somehow became his favorite team. Tennessee wasn't even the main competition for him, LSU was. And- he's a 4*, #116 in the nation overall in the 247Composite. It's not like he's a 5* rated in the top 25 in the nation. Those are a lot tougher to pull as the home-team usually goes all out in those type of battles.

edit: oh and by the way, you should realize this as Michigan went into Oklahoma last year and plucked Dax Hill, who was the #1 player in Oklahoma, the #1 safety prospect in the nation, the #14 overall player in the nation and a 5 STARZ. Michigan went into Oklahoma and plucked him out of OU's backyard.

[CWSooner]

OK.  I get it.  Special circumstances.  He didn't grow up a Vol fan.  The "M" brand is still strong.

About Dax Hill, OU recruited him hard and got some positive vibes from him.  But his older brother went to oSu, and his family loved oSu, and the skeptics said that there was no way his family was going to let him go to OU.  And, whether those people were right or wrong about the reasons, that prediction came true.

Tennessee has taken some good football players out of Oklahoma over the years, especially from Tulsa.  Felix Jones is a guy I recall.  Kansas State has taken the whole Lockett family of football players out of Tulsa.

OU hasn't recruited Tulsa particularly well over the last 25 years or so.  Tulsa has a lot of oSu fans for one thing, and Million-Dollar Mike Stoops, who was in charge of Tulsa recruiting for much of the time he was at OU, never seemed to put much effort into it.

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

Anyway, I think Pugh will commit to State Penn.

Who?  

I don’t follow recruiting that closely, but I think I would have heard the name if he was PSU bound.