2021 ludicruous recruting thread

[Mdot21]

sounds like 4* OLB Jamari Budden from Belleville High School isn’t being recruited by Michigan anymore. 

Belleville’s head coach Jermain Crowell has some kind of beef with the Michigan coaches. According to the top Michigan sports insider Sam Webb, Michigan isn’t recruiting the school anymore so long as Crowell is the head coach. 

Makes total sense Jim. Escalate tensions with one of the top talent producing high schools in your state. A state that produces very little high level D1 talent as is. 

Harbaugh is a fool. He should be trying to repair the rift with Crowell and Belleville, not throw gasoline and light a match on it. 

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

sounds like 4* OLB Jamari Budden from Belleville High School isn’t being recruited by Michigan anymore.

Belleville’s head coach Jermain Crowell has some kind of beef with the Michigan coaches. According to the top Michigan sports insider Sam Webb, Michigan isn’t recruiting the school anymore so long as Crowell is the head coach.

Makes total sense Jim. Escalate tensions with one of the top talent producing high schools in your state. A state that produces very little high level D1 talent as is.

Harbaugh is a fool. He should be trying to repair the rift with Crowell and Belleville, not throw gasoline and light a match on it.

I remember some stink a few years ago when Harbaugh called out Lavert Hill in a press conference.  Crowell lost his mind on twitter talking about how low class it was.

[CWSooner]

This is one of the reasons that I think Nebraska is the most likely helmet to forfeit that designation over time. Demographically, recruiting to Nebraska is a nightmare.

Low in-state talent and probably not great for regional (SD/ND/MT/WY) talent in nearby states without P5 schools either.

I think that the move to the Big Ten, while good for Nebraska as an academic institution, has delivered a powerful blow to Nebraska football.  Nebraska was better situated as the northern outpost of the Big 8, and even the Big 12, than it is as the western outpost of the B1G.
I'll be happy if it turns out that I'm wrong about that.

[Mdot21]

I remember some stink a few years ago when Harbaugh called out Lavert Hill in a press conference.  Crowell lost his mind on twitter talking about how low class it was.

It wasn’t Harbaugh it was the CB coach Zordich. Crowell used to coach Hill way back in the day as an assistant at Cass Tech before going over to Belleville and becoming the head coach. 

[Big Beef Tacosupreme]

It wasn’t Harbaugh it was the CB coach Zordich. Crowell used to coach Hill way back in the day as an assistant at Cass Tech before going over to Belleville and becoming the head coach.

Ah, gotcha.  Not a good look.  

Frankly, a lot of this stuff happens the longer a coaching staff is in place.  Paterno had a fair amount of rocky relationships with high schools.

[CWSooner]

Ah, gotcha.  Not a good look. 

Frankly, a lot of this stuff happens the longer a coaching staff is in place.  Paterno had a fair amount of rocky relationships with high schools.

There's a saying that was very prevalent during my 20 years in the Army: "One awshit wipes out a hundred attaboys."  That's probably not completely true, but it's truer than it should be, because it encourages a don't-rock-the-boat mentality that loses wars.
It probably applies to football recruiting too.  You may have offered 20 kids from one high school over the years, but the coach there remembers the one you didn't offer.

[Mdot21]

Ah, gotcha.  Not a good look. 

Frankly, a lot of this stuff happens the longer a coaching staff is in place.  Paterno had a fair amount of rocky relationships with high schools.

Crowell has deep ties in Detroit and all the top kids and their families know of him. Belleville is an important school right now for Michigan because they are producing a lot of P5 level talent year in year out. 

Just look at this years class. Michigan is in desperate need of DTs and Belleville has a 5*, #18 overall player, #1 DT in the nation recruit in Damon Payne. Payne isn’t even considering Michigan. And Jamari Budden is a 4* LB from the school as well and he was high on the Michigan staff board at LB. 

Harbaugh has really shit the bed recruiting in-state the last few years. Instate DT Justin Rogers was the #51 player overall and the #7 DT recruit in 2020 and Harbaugh was never a factor for him. Kid wound up at fricken Kentucky. And his mother flat out came out and said Harbaugh didn’t reach out to her enough. 

And then the year before that in 2019 Harbaugh lost probably the best OL prospect the state had in a decade in 5*, #7 player overall and #1 OT Logan Brown to Wisconsin.

Can’t be losing this much top talent to out of state schools. Not when your state doesn’t produce a lot of top talent. Have to lock it up.  

[MrNubbz]

I think that the move to the Big Ten, while good for Nebraska as an academic institution, has delivered a powerful blow to Nebraska football.  Nebraska was better situated as the northern outpost of the Big 8, and even the Big 12, than it is as the western outpost of the B1G.
I'll be happy if it turns out that I'm wrong about that.

Well they evidently had connections in Texas with 4 schools playing in conference.A kid from there could go to UNL and vist or be visited by the Lone Star Schools and players

[CWSooner]

Well they evidently had connections in Texas with 4 schools playing in conference.A kid from there could go to UNL and vist or be visited by the Lone Star Schools and players

We'd have to go back and look at rosters and playing time to verify that, but it sure seems that that would be the case.

[FearlessF]

not as many Texas kids on the roster today as back in the Big 12 days, but not a huge difference

Pelini recruited Texas pretty well after joining the Big Ten because of previous relationships.

This obviously changed with Riley and Frost, but Frost is still getting some Texas kids

it'a all about relationships with high school coaches and how much effort

[Entropy]

Where UNL recruited well in the past had more to do with relationships than a region.  Texas really never was a hot spot for UNL.  You'd have great players from Texas, but big numbers.  UNL has always recruited nationally, but really focused on the states around Nebraska.    I'd argue losing Missouri kids hurt more.   UNL has not recruited Missouri like they did back in the Big8.    

[CWSooner]

Where UNL recruited well in the past had more to do with relationships than a region.  Texas really never was a hot spot for UNL.  You'd have great players from Texas, but big numbers.  UNL has always recruited nationally, but really focused on the states around Nebraska.    I'd argue losing Missouri kids hurt more.  UNL has not recruited Missouri like they did back in the Big8.

It might have been better for all concerned had Mizzou and Nebraska gone into the B1G together.
Of course, that might have meant sacrificing the plan to add Rutgers.

[Cincydawg]

Missouri and A&M both, to me, seem like interlopers, added solely for $$$$.  I was content with how things were, which perhaps is a reflection of my age.  I'm not sure still that USCe and Arkansas should be SEC teams either.

Money drives this obviously.  I don't hafta like it.

I am a bit curious as to why the SEC doesn't charge $250 per ticket for the SEC CG.  They let sellers and SH make money they could have.

[ELA]

MSU picks up 3* OG Kevin Wiginton from NJ over USC, Tennessee, Maryland, UCLA, Pitt and Vandy

Weird hard line from Rutgers coaches to lose this lifelong Rutgers fan

Wigenton grew up a Rutgers fan. His father, Kevin Wigenton Sr., went to Rutgers Law School. His family cheered for the Scarlet Knights on the football field.

“That was my favorite team,” he said. “I thought the plan was to go to Rutgers.”

And indeed, Wigenton received an offer from then-coach Chris Ash in September 2019.

But Ash was fired at the end of the month, four games into the season. When Greg Schiano was hired in December — his second head coaching stint with the program — Wigenton got cold feet.

Wigenton said Schiano wanted him to commit on the spot.

“Not a lot of people know this,” he said, “but the new staff came in and asked if I was ready to commit if they’d offer a scholarship that day. If not, they didn’t want to get involved. I didn’t like that. I just didn’t get a good vibe from the Rutgers staff.