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medinabuckeye1

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1442 on: March 09, 2022, 03:23:10 PM »
Interesting.  Also weird how 3 seeds fare MUCH better in the Final 4 than 2 seeds
I think a lot of that is that the few 3's that have made it that far are probably largely underseeded teams.  3's fare much better on a percentage basis 64.7% wins compared to 41.4% for 2's.  For that matter 3's do better on a percentage basis than even the 1's (61.7%) but in raw numbers the 3's are WAY behind the 1's and slightly behind the 2's.  Semi-Final records:
  • #1's are 37-23 or .617 in 60 attempts.  
  • #2's are 12-17 or .414 in 29 attempts.   
  • #3's are 11-6 or .647 in 17 attempts.  
  • All others are a combined 12-26 or .316 in 38 attempts.  

On a percentage basis #6's are actually the best in semi-finals at .667 but that is made up of being 2-1 in just three attempts.  


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« Reply #1443 on: March 09, 2022, 07:04:58 PM »
Not doing a true bracket at this point, but a daily update with the seeds.  You can read this as a true snake, so, if you go straight down a line, that would be a region, if they didn't adjust to avoid rematches, and regional considerations, with auto-bids in bold

(number in parenthesis indicates moving up or down a seed line, or new)

NCAA

  • Baylor, Auburn, Kentucky, Arizona
  • Duke, Tennessee, Kansas, Gonzaga
  • PURDUE, Villanova, Texas Tech, Houston
  • Arkansas, WISCONSIN, ILLINOIS, UCLA
  • Providence, Texas, Murray State, Connecticut (+1)
  • North Carolina, IOWA (+1), LSU, Saint Mary's (-1)
  • Alabama (-1), USC, OHIO STATE, Colorado State
  • Wake Forest (+1), Iowa State, Seton Hall, MICHIGAN STATE
  • TCU (-1), MICHIGAN, Davidson, San Diego State
  • Loyola(Chi), Marquette, Boise State, San Francisco
  • Notre Dame, Memphis, Miami, Oklahoma (+1)
  • Florida/SMU, Crieghton/VCU (-1), South Dakota State, North Texas
  • Chattanooga, Vermont, Iona, Toledo
  • Montana State (+1), Longwood, Princeton, NM State
  • UC Irvine, Norfolk State, Delaware (+1), Georgia State
  • Bryant (N)/Texas Southern, Nicholls State/Wright State, Colgate, Jacksonville State (N)


NIT

  • Xavier, Virginia Tech, Wyoming, INDIANA
  • Texas A&M, RUTGERS, BYU, Dayton
  • St. Bonaventure, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Virginia
  • Kansas State, West Virginia (+1), UAB, Saint Louis
  • Belmont (-1), Colorado, St. John's, Oregon
  • Vanderbilt (N), Drake, Santa Clara, MARYLAND
  • Towson, Florida State (-1), NORTHWESTERN (N), Northern Iowa
  • Alcorn State, Cleveland State, Long Beach State, Texas State (N)


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1444 on: March 09, 2022, 08:19:44 PM »
I may be attending IU v Mich tomorrow.  Don't think I've managed to see IU in a conference tourney game before despite catching about 10 games over the years in Indy.

Nebraska's impeccable 0 Fer in the NCAA continues another year.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1445 on: March 09, 2022, 09:14:53 PM »
Pitino and Iona upset by the 9 seed in the MAAC quarterfinals

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1446 on: March 09, 2022, 09:36:12 PM »
Some Wednesday night MAACtion? 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1447 on: March 10, 2022, 07:16:46 AM »
I'll just leave this here.

U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #1448 on: March 10, 2022, 07:17:45 AM »
And this too:

U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1449 on: March 10, 2022, 09:04:39 AM »
Not sure there's a ton of difference there.  I always think the big gap is between the 2s and the 3s.  That's the only reason I care about it this year, is to see if MSU can beat Maryland and Wisconsin, and if so, is that enough to get them up to a 6?  I still think they probably need to get to Sunday, but who knows.  In 2016, I thought they were a lock for a 1, and they got a 2.  And in 2017 I was just hoping to avoid being in the First 4, and they ended up getting an 8
Torvik still has MSU as likely a 7 seed with wins over Maryland, Wisconsin and Purdue.  Only get bumped up to a 6 seed by then beating Illinois.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1450 on: March 10, 2022, 09:22:25 AM »
Composite Computer Rankings (last week in parenthesis) - 60 computers
  • Gonzaga (1)
  • Arizona (2)
  • Baylor (3)
  • Auburn (7)
  • Kentucky (5)
  • Kansas (4)
  • Duke (6)
  • Villanova (12)
  • Tennessee (10)
  • Houston (9)
  • PURDUE (8)
  • UCLA (13)
  • Texas Tech (11)
  • ILLINOIS (15)
  • Arkansas (14)
  • IOWA (22)
  • Saint Mary's (20)
  • Connecticut (16)
  • Texas (17)
  • WISCONSIN (18)
  • LSU (24)
  • Providence (21)
  • Alabama (19)
  • OHIO STATE (23)
  • San Francisco (-)


  • 35. Michigan State (27)
  • 36. Michigan (34)
  • 46. Indiana (39)
  • 63. Rutgers (65)
  • 81. Maryland (80)
  • 87. Northwestern (89)
  • 99. Penn State (92)
  • 107. Minnesota (98)
  • 140. Nebraska (174)


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1451 on: March 10, 2022, 09:24:30 AM »
lucky for me, right in the middle of spring football practice
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1452 on: March 10, 2022, 10:27:15 AM »
Torvik still has MSU as likely a 7 seed with wins over Maryland, Wisconsin and Purdue.  Only get bumped up to a 6 seed by then beating Illinois.
Do you expect them to go 3-1?

As for my Buckeyes I think looking at the seeds to determine tOSU's best/worst performances pretty much sums up my view of this team.  Based on BTT Seeds:
  • The Buckeyes best win is over #1 Illinois . . .  on the road.  
  • The Buckeyes worst loss is to #13 Nebraska . . . at home.  

If the Buckeyes can beat the best team in the league on the road or lose to the second-worst team in the league at home then it is impossible to project what they will actually do in any individual game.  I wouldn't be surprised if they lose to Penn State tonight but I wouldn't be all that shocked if they beat PSU, beat PU, beat UW, then beat IL to win the BTT.  I mean, I'd be surprised that  they won four in a row but none of those wins individually would be all that surprising.  


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1453 on: March 10, 2022, 10:48:14 AM »
Updated Big Board of NBA prospects on The Athletic

3. Jaden Ivey, Purdue
7. Keegan Murray, Iowa
9. Johnny Davis, Wiscy
19. Malaki Branham, OSU :'(
21. Bryce McGowens, Nebraska
25. E.J. Liddell, OSU
39. Caleb Houstan, Michigan
50. Moussa Diabate, Michigan
56. Kris Murray, Iowa
60. Gabe Brown, MSU
66. Kofi Cockburn, Illinois
68. Zach Edey, Purdue
77. Trevion Williams, Purdue
85. Hunter Dickinson, Michigan
91. Pete Nance, Northwestern
100. Trayce Jackson-Davis, Indiana

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1454 on: March 10, 2022, 10:53:12 AM »
3/10 Update

Not doing a true bracket at this point, but a daily update with the seeds.  You can read this as a true snake, so, if you go straight down a line, that would be a region, if they didn't adjust to avoid rematches, and regional considerations, with auto-bids in bold

(number in parenthesis indicates moving up or down a seed line, or new)

NCAA
  • Baylor, Arizona, Auburn, Kentucky
  • Duke, Tennessee, Kansas, Gonzaga
  • PURDUE, Villanova, Texas Tech, Houston
  • Arkansas, ILLINOIS, WISCONSIN, UCLA
  • Providence, Texas, Saint Mary's (+1), Murray State
  • Alabama (+1), North Carolina, LSU, IOWA
  • Connecticut (-2), USC, Colorado State, OHIO STATE
  • MICHIGAN (+1), Iowa State, MICHIGAN STATE, Seton Hall
  • TCU, Boise State (+1), San Diego State, Davidson
  • Notre Dame (+1), San Francisco, Loyola(Chi), Marquette
  • Wake Forest (-3), Memphis, Miami, SMU (+1)
  • Florida/VCU, Creighton/Oklahoma (-1), South Dakota State, North Texas
  • Chattanooga, Vermont, Toledo, NM State (+1)
  • UC Irvine (+1), Montana State (+1), Longwood, Princeton
  • Saint Peter's (N), Norfolk State, Delaware, Georgia State
  • Bryant/Texas Southern, Nicholls State/Wright State, Jacksonville State, Colgate, Jacksonville State

NIT
  • INDIANA, Virginia Tech, Wyoming, BYU (+1)
  • Xavier (-1), RUTGERS, Dayton, Texas A&M
  • South Carolina, St. Bonaventure, Virginia, UAB (+1)
  • Belmont (+1), Saint Louis, West Virginia, Mississippi State (-1)
  • Colorado, Kansas State (-1), St. John's, Vanderbilt (+1)
  • Santa Clara, Drake, Oregon (-1), Iona (N)
  • MARYLAND (-1), Towson, NORTHWESTERN, Northern Iowa
  • Alcorn State, Cleveland State, Long Beach State, Texas State


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1455 on: March 10, 2022, 10:56:45 AM »
Do you expect them to go 3-1?
Not at all.  I had just speculated earlier if beating Maryland and Wisconsin would be enough to get them up to a 6.  Based on that, even beating Maryland, Wisconsin AND Purdue likely wouldn't.

 

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