2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread

[betarhoalphadelta]

B1G prospects in the draft per the Athletic

4. Jaden Ivey
5. Johnny Davis
8. Keegan Murray
22. Max Christie
26. Caleb Houstan
27. Bryce McGowens
42. EJ Liddell
45. Moussa Diabete
51. Gabe Brown
64. Kofi Cockburn
68. Pete Nance
70. Zach Edey
87. Trevion Williams
95. Trayce Jackson-Davis

A bit surprised Edey isn't getting more hype. I realize that he's not exactly a "modern" big, but he's also not a slow-footed ogre like Isaac Haas. 

Especially since the NBA so often drafts on potential. Edey has only been playing basketball since middle of high school. He came in as a completely green freshman, and his development in-season was amazing. He's jumped into the starting spot over a more skilled Williams, but his physical attributes are something that neither Williams or even Cockburn can match. 

If I'm an NBA GM, I'm looking at someone like Edey and saying he's someone I want to target in the 2nd round. He's certainly not a sure-fire lock, but one of those guys that if he hits, he's going to be REALLY dominant because you can't teach 7'4". He's got potential. 

[MaximumSam]

A bit surprised Edey isn't getting more hype. I realize that he's not exactly a "modern" big, but he's also not a slow-footed ogre like Isaac Haas.

Especially since the NBA so often drafts on potential. Edey has only been playing basketball since middle of high school. He came in as a completely green freshman, and his development in-season was amazing. He's jumped into the starting spot over a more skilled Williams, but his physical attributes are something that neither Williams or even Cockburn can match.

If I'm an NBA GM, I'm looking at someone like Edey and saying he's someone I want to target in the 2nd round. He's certainly not a sure-fire lock, but one of those guys that if he hits, he's going to be REALLY dominant because you can't teach 7'4". He's got potential.

He seemed pretty low on big guys who don't move that well. Hunter Dickinson didn't even make his top 100 and he was pretty vocal that he didn't have a place in the NBA, which surprised me. Most of his reasoning was Dickinson can't guard in space, and I assume that is why Edey wouldn't be a top prospect for him too. Though he was ranking everyone - would be a bit surprising to see Edey leave this season when he is due to be the fulltime dude next year.

[MaximumSam]

Ugh the sound on the Buckeye game is kind of messed up, so it is glaringly obvious that you are hearing these talking heads talk from home and the sounds from the game are muted. Thanks ESPN

[TyphonInc]

But it was a Buckeye win. I listened to the radio any way.

[medinabuckeye1]

But it was a Buckeye win. I listened to the radio any way.

And a road win to boot.  Actually all three of tonight's B1G games were won by the visiting team which is pretty rare.  

[medinabuckeye1]

Update almost 1/2 way through the season:
The tiers are:

• tOSU, MSU even(+1,-1), PU+1 (+2,-1), IL-1 (+1,-2), UW even(+1,-1)
• RU even(+1,-1), IA-1 (+1,-2), IU-1
• UMD+1 (+3,-2), M even(+1,-1), PSU+1, NU even(+2,-2), MN even(+1,-1)
• blank
• UNL

Upsets so far have been:

Games "postponed" and at this point projected NOT to be played are:

Based on all of this the updated projected final standings and BTT seeds are as follows:

• 14-5/23-7 Michigan State (see tiebreaker below)
• 14-5/25-5 Purdue
• 14-5/21-7 Ohio State
• 14-6/22-9 Illinois (wins tie with UW based on H2H, no game in Madison)
• 14-6/23-7 Wisconsin
• 11-9/17-13 Rutgers
• 10-10/20-11 Iowa (wins tie with IU based on H2H, no game in Bloomington)
• 10-10/19-11 Indiana
• 8-12/16-15 Maryland
• 7-11/13-15 Michigan
• 7-12/12-15 Penn State
• 7-13/14-15 Northwestern
• 6-13/15-13 Minnesota
• 0-19/6-24 Nebraska

Thus the match-ups for the BTT in Indianapolis would be:
Wednesday, March 9, 2022:

• #11 Penn State vs #14 Nebraska, 830 BTN
• #12 Northwestern vs #13 Minnesota, 6 BTN

Thursday, March 10, 2022:

• #5 Wisconsin vs NU/MN, 230 BTN
• #6 Rutgers vs PSU/UNL, 9 BTN
• #7 Iowa vs #10 Michigan, 630 BTN
• #8 Indiana vs #9 Maryland, noon BTN

Friday, March 11, 2022:

• #1 Michigan State vs IU/UMD, noon BTN
• #2 Purdue vs IA/M, 630 BTN
• #3 Ohio State vs RU/PSU/UNL, 9 BTN
• #4 Illinois vs UW/NU/MN, 230 BTN

Saturday, March 12, 2022:

• MSU/IU/UMD vs IL/UW/NU/MN, 1 CBS
• PU/IA/M vs tOSU/RU/PSU/UNL, 330 CBS

Sunday, March 13, 2022:

• MSU/IU/UMD/IL/UW/NU/MN vs PU/IA/M/tOSU/RU/PSU/UNL, 330 CBS

Tiebreaker for the three co-champions:
The first tiebreaker is H2H.  In a full double-round-robin each would be projected to go 2-2 against the other two but each one misses one home game and one road game so that moves them all to 1-1.  That is still tied so we move to:

The second tiebreaker is record against the best team(s) then the next, etc.  Each of the three would be expected to go 2-2 against the two 14-6 teams (IL, UW) in a double-round-robin but Ohio State does not host IL so that drops them to 1-2.  Purdue has offsetting upsets (by UW in West Lafayette, of Illinois in Champaign) while MSU has an upset of UW.  Thus their projected records against the 14-6 teams are:

• 3-1 Michigan State (sweep of UW, split with IL)
• 2-2 Purdue (sweep of IL, swept by UW)
• 1-2 Ohio State (home win over UW, road losses to IL and UW)

It is important to point out that the top-5 are all within 1/2 a game of each other so anything can happen.  The current projected #1 seed is Michigan State and they host Michigan this weekend in a game they are projected to win.  If they lose they drop all the way to #5.  Similarly the current projected #5 seed is Wisconsin and they travel to Illinois on Tuesday in a game they are projected to lose.  If they win they move all the way up to #1.  

[medinabuckeye1]

All 14 teams are in action between Saturday and Monday:

• Michigan at Michigan State Saturday at 1230 on CBS
• Indiana at Maryland Saturday at 230 on FOX
• Illinois at Northwestern Saturday at 430 on BTN
• Rutgers at Nebraska Saturday at 630 on BTN
• Ohio State at Purdue Sunday at noon on CBS
• Minnesota at Wisconsin Sunday at 1 on BTN
• Iowa at Penn State Monday at 7 on BTN

[ELA]

He seemed pretty low on big guys who don't move that well. Hunter Dickinson didn't even make his top 100 and he was pretty vocal that he didn't have a place in the NBA, which surprised me. Most of his reasoning was Dickinson can't guard in space, and I assume that is why Edey wouldn't be a top prospect for him too. Though he was ranking everyone - would be a bit surprising to see Edey leave this season when he is due to be the fulltime dude next year.

Yeah, I'm not worried about Edeys lack of a modern NBA offensive game, I just don't know how he can guard anyone at the next level.

As for the MSU guys, surprised to see no Bingham, and surprised to see Gabe Brown on there at all, let alone all the way up at #51.  He seems like a dime a dozen wing. Bingham is long, with good defensive skills, and a shot that still looks pretty good, even if it doesn't get the best results. If I was an NBA guy, I'd trust our ability to fix that.  Feels like there are a million Gabe browns, as much as I love the guy

[847badgerfan]

Games "postponed" and at this point projected NOT to be played are:

UW @ UNL was played last night as a makeup game.

[ELA]

UW @ UNL was played last night as a makeup game.

And Michigan and Purdue just announced they are playing a makeup game on February 10th

[MrNubbz]

They should move it to the 14th - in the spirit of the Day

[ELA]

They should move it to the 14th - in the spirit of the Day

I mean, you can't top this 


https://youtu.be/nt-YNOAEzYI

[medinabuckeye1]

UW @ UNL was played last night as a makeup game.

You are right.  I put it on that list when I thought it was not going to be played.  When they rescheduled I put it back in the results so it is included there but forgot to delete it from the list of games not to be played.  I fixed it in my spreadsheet.  

[medinabuckeye1]

And Michigan and Purdue just announced they are playing a makeup game on February 10th

I hadn't seen that, thank you.  I added it to the projections and Purdue is now projected to win the league at 15-5 with tOSU/MSU 1/2 game back at 14-5 and IL/UW one game back at 14-6.  

They had to move IL@PU from 2/10 to 2/8 to make this work.  Purdue's schedule in that stretch is now:

• 2/5 vs M
• 2/8 vs IL
• 2/10 at M
• 2/13 vs UMD

Michigan's is:

• 2/5 at PU
• 2/8 at PSU
• 2/10 vs PU
• 2/12 vs tOSU