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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6510 on: August 20, 2020, 07:07:57 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on August 20, 2020, 06:35:06 PM
I used to do so when I had the motorcycle.

Biggest adrenaline rush ever. Even moreso than jumping out of an airplane.

Never done one in a car. I don't think either my Ford Flex or Jeep Wrangler would be great on a track lol...

But I highly recommend it. It's a whole different ballgame compared to anything you dare do on public roads.

I've considered buying another motorcycle and ripping off anything that would make it street-legal to be purely a track bike. Or buying a track-only sporty car. Just haven't had time/room/money for such a "toy" unless I sell the Jeep, and I don't want to do that.
https://www.monticellomotorclub.com/

this is one of a few tracks I’ve been able to drive on. My goodness is it a good time. I also got to drive on the Chicagoland speedway as part of the SRT Track experience. It’s amazing with those 45° banked curves how well the vehicle sticks when you’re sitting almost sideways to the ground but you’re going 150 miles an hour.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6511 on: August 20, 2020, 07:09:19 PM »
Most people live in or near cities.  Driving in a city is not especially fun, trust me.  I suspect in most cities driving a car on most streets yourself will be illegal, or even impossible.  

You can pack cars tightly together at 70 mph with autonomous driving.  You can fly a plane today from X to Y with zero human intervention.  You can land one on a carrier deck in fact.  That's a bit different except in concept.

We might also see freeways redesigned for toll lanes with inductive recharging of batteries.  You zip along with power from the road and then when you exit to a side street you go to battery power.  If gasoline goes away, so does revenue from gas tax.

I ponder if mass transit is not obsolescent, including HSR.

That California HSR thing ended up being the worst possible end point I think.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6512 on: August 20, 2020, 07:28:21 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 20, 2020, 07:09:19 PM
We might also see freeways redesigned for toll lanes with inductive recharging of batteries.  
Cincy, you're smarter than this. Let's not start peddling snake oil. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6513 on: August 20, 2020, 07:33:33 PM »
Well, I could say we COULD  all have flying cars in 2040 of course.  It's possible.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6514 on: August 20, 2020, 07:41:00 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 20, 2020, 07:33:33 PM
Well, I could say we COULD  all have flying cars in 2040 of course.  It's possible.
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Unless we suddenly come upon a basically free and inexhaustible energy source, flying cars won't ever be a thing. You know this as a pilot.

When you're flying, a portion of your energy is spent getting where you want to go. A portion of your energy is also devoted to the various drag elements of your airplane that generate lift. 

When you're driving, all of your energy can go to propulsion. You don't need to expend energy to generate lift, because the weight of your vehicle and the opposing force of the ground keeping it from falling it into the earth are in balance. 

Therefore, flying cars are by definition much less energy-efficient than rolling cars. Nothing can possibly get around that fact unless you dramatically reduce the cost of energy, and I don't see that happening.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6515 on: August 20, 2020, 10:13:31 PM »
I reject your conclusion that my Jetsons world will not exist.  Take it back.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6516 on: August 21, 2020, 07:01:21 AM »
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6517 on: August 21, 2020, 08:01:40 AM »
Yeah, flying cars are "out there", inherently, and you have the air space thing to consider (thought that is amenable to control with computers I think).

The primary function of a wing is to covert drag into lift.  To get a thing "up" requires energy, a lot of it.  A car does have some rolling resistance and wind drag of course.

But as you say, the only part of that related to "lift" is meant to generate downforce, antilift.

Cars with a lot of downforce have a lower top speed than the same car with fewer "wings" on them (spoilers etc.).
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6518 on: August 21, 2020, 08:06:07 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 20, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
Most people I know don't like having to drive.  I do, so it works out. 

In about 20 years or so, having your own internal-combustion engine car will be akin to owning a boat today.  Relatively few will have one, they'll mostly use it on weekends, and it'll just be a luxury item. 
With many people living in urban areas, that may be the case. But us folks out here in rural America may beg to differ. There are many things we do with our vehicles that will not easily comport to autonomous vehicles such as farming, towing, snow plowing, etc. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6519 on: August 21, 2020, 08:26:00 AM »
The vast majority of us live in (sub)urban areas, and that is where the vast majority of cars reside.  Farming items like plowing are amenable to autonomous now.

Imagine a slimmed down tractor with no cab and AC and stereo unit in it that plows off GPS signals i a pattern you determine on your computer.  Pretty simple.

Same with fertilizing.

But most cars will be autonomous, I suspect by 2035-2040.

And temporary renting with be the thing (Lyft/Uber).
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6520 on: August 21, 2020, 09:41:15 AM »
Quote from: MarqHusker on August 20, 2020, 05:53:58 PM
His job is sales for a moving company....in the city he lives in where he is also the mayor.  Its not the moonlighting that is strange its the juxtaposition of duties.

'Let me help you move and get the !@#$ out of my city. '
Mayor is a volunteer position. No moonlighting. The conflict is kinda ironic though.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6521 on: August 21, 2020, 09:42:31 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 21, 2020, 08:26:00 AM
The vast majority of us live in (sub)urban areas, and that is where the vast majority of cars reside.  Farming items like plowing are amenable to autonomous now.

Imagine a slimmed down tractor with no cab and AC and stereo unit in it that plows off GPS signals i a pattern you determine on your computer.  Pretty simple.

Same with fertilizing.

But most cars will be autonomous, I suspect by 2035-2040.

And temporary renting with be the thing (Lyft/Uber).
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6522 on: August 21, 2020, 10:02:57 AM »
I think if (IF) we see most cars autonomous by 2040, they will mostly be EVs.  You won't need much range out of them, and they'd be borrowed.  Once one gets low it finds a recharging outlet.  Of course, this increases demand for E by about 30% or so.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #6523 on: August 21, 2020, 10:37:29 AM »
and said charging outlet is automated w/o human interaction?

wireless charging?
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