2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[OrangeAfroMan]

Yeah, Tampa had to make that trade.

Wirfs was the last of the highly rated 4 OT’s available, and OT was a big need for the them. Can’t risk staying put and watching another team move to 13 and take him.

Wirfs is a freak of nature and damn near every mock draft I saw had him going in the top 10. They couldn’t sit there and risk it. They had to get him. 

Here's who I think had to change their plans, because a guy they thought would be gone was still on the board::
8.  Arizona - Simmons, LB
13. Tampa - Wirfs, OT
14. SF - Kinlaw, DT
20. Jax - Chaisson, LB
22. Minnesota - Jefferson, WR
28. Baltimore - Queen, LB

The Browns at 10 and the Broncos at 15 wouldn't have counted on who they got being there, but the Browns knew they'd get one of the top 3 OT and the Broncos knew they'd get one of the top 3 WR, so I don't really count that.

[Mdot21]

Ya well if he missed the whole 2019 season and is 32  he's not exactly on solid ground either.So if the skins could hammer out some agreement with him then swap him that could work out

Yeah the Redskins are asking too much and I’m not sure anyone is going to offer him a the fat contract he wants. 

I think if they take a 4th or 5th Rd pick and Williams agrees to a reasonably priced extension someone will make the trade. 

I think Redskins are being unrealistic in their asking price and Williams is being unrealistic in what he wants for a new contract. 

Redskins can save $12.5 million in cap space by cutting Williams. 

[Mdot21]

Holy hell when did this happen?I wanted him in the draft a few yrs back.Damn things are looking up in the old Town.Alright Baker time to man up and show us that Balling Leadership.Great find MDoT,there are shirts made up here in N.E.Ohio pertaining to the Browns/Indians - "Just once before I Die"

Happened right at the beginning of f/a. I thought it was a great move and they didn’t overpay either. Tennessee was stuck- they really made a terrible choice by signing Ryan Tannehill to that big contract. That move lead to them having to franchise Derrick Henry and not being able to keep Conklin. If I’m running that team- I am locking up Conklin and Henry for the long-term rather than wasting all that money on freaking Ryan Tannehill.

Conklin is only going to be 26 once the season starts. Wills will be 21. Browns got young studs at LT and RT. 

AND they signed the TE Hooper away from Atlanta and they’ll get Njoku back from injury. Browns will be able to play a lot of 2 TE sets this year. 

If Cleveland’s offense isn’t lighting it up next year then something went way wrong, because on paper it’s unreal.

[Mdot21]

So, second round is starting in about 6 hours. 

CBS Sports updated 2nd rd mock has Tampa getting RB D’Andre Swift in the 2nd rd. I’m on record, I thought Taylor should’ve been the first RB taken and a 1st rd pick. Swift might be a better fit for Tampa though considering his pass catching ability and being very slippery in space. Ronald Jones isn’t a bad back, he’s good- but Taylor or Swift would be a significant upgrade imo. 



https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-day-2-nfl-mock-draft-giants-trade-up-to-start-round-2-buccaneers-land-dandre-swift-patriots-go-qb/amp/

[CWSooner]

Ya well if he missed the whole 2019 season and is 32  he's not exactly on solid ground either.So if the skins could hammer out some agreement with him then swap him that could work out

I think that boat has sailed.  If they were going to do that, they would have done it a year ago.
It's probably going to end up as a lose-lose situation, with the Skins getting nothing and Williams getting a minimal free-agent contract.

[CWSooner]

Here's who I think had to change their plans, because a guy they thought would be gone was still on the board::
8.  Arizona - Simmons, LB
13. Tampa - Wirfs, OT
14. SF - Kinlaw, DT
20. Jax - Chaisson, LB
22. Minnesota - Jefferson, WR
28. Baltimore - Queen, LB

The Browns at 10 and the Broncos at 15 wouldn't have counted on who they got being there, but the Browns knew they'd get one of the top 3 OT and the Broncos knew they'd get one of the top 3 WR, so I don't really count that.

Dallas at #17 was looking for a DB, but CeeDee Lamb was still available, so they took him instead.

[Mdot21]

It's probably going to end up as a lose-lose situation, with the Skins getting nothing and Williams getting a minimal free-agent contract.

Yeah, I think that’s the most likely scenario at this point. That player-organization relationship is irrevocably damaged. There’s no making nice and going back to the way things were.

Washington will probably have to cut him, and the F/A market for Williams won’t be lucrative. He’ll probably get a 1-year prove it deal for $4-5 million or something like that.

Washington can cut him and clear up $12.5 million in cap space and only take a $2 million dead money hit. They’d have $35 million and change in cap space and be second to the Browns only in cap space. Could take that $12.5mil they saved and go after Clowney to pair with Chase Young.

[Mdot21]

Dallas at #17 was looking for a DB, but CeeDee Lamb was still available, so they took him instead.

I think Lamb was the best all-around WR in the draft, but that was a dumb move if you ask me. Amari Cooper is only 25 and just got a huge extension and Michael Gallup is a REALLY good up and coming receiver that’ll be 24. Both of them had over 1,100+ receiving yards last season.

There are a lot of really talented WR’s in this draft that can be gotten in the 2nd to 4th rd. Lamb is going to be their #3 WR this season. They probably could’ve gotten an explosive athlete like KJ Hamler to be their #3 WR in the slot in the 3rd rd.

Dallas had so many holes to fill on defense and they also needed to replace All-Pro center Travis Fredrick who just retired because of a horrible auto-immune disease- and Cesar Ruiz was sitting right there and probably one of the best center prospects to come out in at least a few years.  Should’ve went defense or Ruiz right there. 

Cowboys gonna Cowboy.

[CWSooner]

I think Lamb was the best all-around WR in the draft, but that was a dumb move if you ask me. Amari Cooper is only 25 and just got a huge extension and Michael Gallup is a REALLY good up and coming receiver that’ll be 24. Both of them had over 1,100+ receiving yards last season.

There are a lot of really talented WR’s in this draft that can be gotten in the 2nd to 4th rd. Lamb is going to be their #3 WR this season. They probably could’ve gotten an explosive athlete like KJ Hamler to be their #3 WR in the slot in the 3rd rd.

Dallas had so many holes to fill on defense and they also needed to replace All-Pro center Travis Fredrick who just retired because of a horrible auto-immune disease- and Cesar Ruiz was sitting right there and probably one of the best center prospects to come out in at least a few years.  Should’ve went defense or Ruiz right there.

Cowboys gonna Cowboy.

Yep.

And Jerry Jones gonna Jerry Jones.

[Cincydawg]

My take on Swift, FWIW, he's a notch below Gurley and Chubb and roughly parallel to Michel.

He's not the same as Sony Michel, but about as effective overall.  I'd probably take Chubb over the lot, though Gurley in his prime was special.

[Mdot21]

My take on Swift, FWIW, he's a notch below Gurley and Chubb and roughly parallel to Michel.

He's not the same as Sony Michel, but about as effective overall. I'd probably take Chubb over the lot, though Gurley in his prime was special.

I think Swift > Michel. If we’re talking NFL prospects....imo....I’d grade them...

1) Gurley - A+ 
2) Chubb - A-
3) Swift - B+
4) Michel - B

Gurley would’ve been in the HoF if not for the injuries. Who knows- he might overcome them and still might and have a resurgence in Atlanta. 

[MrNubbz]

I think that boat has sailed.  If they were going to do that, they would have done it a year ago.
It's probably going to end up as a lose-lose situation, with the Skins getting nothing and Williams getting a minimal free-agent contract.

A year ago he had not been injured and missed the whole season.But I was thinking the exact same thing lose-lose.That way the skins won't take it on the chin and Williams will get something later.But they'd rather be ignoranuses

[MrNubbz]

I think Lamb was the best all-around WR in the draft, but that was a dumb move if you ask me. Amari Cooper is only 25 and just got a huge extension and Michael Gallup is a REALLY good up and coming receiver that’ll be 24. Both of them had over 1,100+ receiving yards last season.

Cowboys gonna Cowboy.

Great points not only that what is the situation with DAK.Is he going to be under center this year(if it's played)?Definately have enough targets and holes in the roster to look elsewhere.Amazing idiots can rake in so much money and be so clueless

[Mdot21]

Great points not only that what is the situation with DAK.Is he going to be under center this year(if it's played)?Definately have enough targets and holes in the roster to look elsewhere.Amazing idiots can rake in so much money and be so clueless

Dak has no deal. He was franchise tagged but he hasn’t signed his franchise tag offer. He’s threatening to hold out as far as I know. 

If he signs the tag he’ll make $33 million this year, but Dak wants a long term deal.