2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[FearlessF]

Different animal picking apart NFL defenses,of course could have been a bad score.Factoring in health concerns though he's not 1st rd material IMO

he improved his score from a 13 while at Bama to a 19 for the combine

I thought Burrows' accuracy was much better than Tua's

[Mdot21]

Tua is 1st rd material imo. If not for the injuries he’d battle with Burrow at #1.

[OrangeAfroMan]

I mean, PPG is a context-heavy stat at times, certianly when the offense commits a turnover 20 percent of the time.

In a few more "tempo-free" stats, Tampa ranked:
6th in yards per play
A so-so 17th in point per drive
Sixth in average drive distance
Tied for sixth in red zone TD percentage allowed
First in opponents drives overall

So at the very least, that PPG is impacted a good bit. Who knows if that stays the case, but one can reasonably say Tommy inherits what very reasonably could be a good defense on the other side.

I can buy this, sounds fair.  
But Mdot1 can't help himself and has to call them elite.  

[Mdot21]

I can buy this, sounds fair. 
But Mdot1 can't help himself and has to call them elite. 

Reading and comprehension? I never once called them elite. I said they were among the elite in the advanced adjusted stats. Which, ya know, they are. 

[OrangeAfroMan]

I don't know how to credit Burrow without knowing exactly what Brady was doing at LSU.  It seemed like Burrow knew 100% where his 3 progressions were on every play, so well that that part of the game wasn't an issue.  He has the accuracy to put the ball where he wanted, but that first point helps with accuracy.  It's easier to be accurate if you know where the ball should go before the snap. 
We don't know how much of that was Burrow being a big studier, how much was ease of use in the play-calling/design, and how much was Burrow's on-field talent.  
Burrow was athletic enough the 2-3 times per game when none of his reads were there, to escape and gain positive yardage.  Tua seems really resistant to cut-and-run, to his physical detriment.  

As far as pure throwing, I'd pick Tua.  
But he also had a big talent advantage of those around him in nearly every game.  Look at his WRs - one has been called "the best route-runner EVER", another runs a 4.2, and the other 2 are like preseason All-Americans.  Plus the injuries, plural.  

I'm glad I'm not an NFL GM.  The percentage of your job that is out of your control has to be inconceivable.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Reading and comprehension? I never once called them elite. I said they were among the elite in the advanced adjusted stats. Which, ya know, they are.

LOL, okay.  That's totally different.  I'm wrooooooong again.  

[OrangeAfroMan]

I love the draft.  I wish they gave every pick the same study and coverage as the first round.  

[Cincydawg]

When Burrow played UGA, he very often went to second and third receivers and made pinpoint throws for completions.  We had them covered pretty well and had some pressure.  Dissection.  I was super impressed.  That was a good defense he faced with a lot of players that will start in the NFL.  It wasn't an NFL defense of course, nor scheme, but he was well prepared and made some incredible throws off balance.

[OrangeAfroMan]

A lot of his throws, even most of them, were pretty open, due to scheme.  He made accurate throws, but he won't see the kinds of scheme advantages in the NFL that he did routinely in college.

[rolltidefan]

When Burrow played UGA, he very often went to second and third receivers and made pinpoint throws for completions.  We had them covered pretty well and had some pressure.  Dissection.  I was super impressed.  That was a good defense he faced with a lot of players that will start in the NFL.  It wasn't an NFL defense of course, nor scheme, but he was well prepared and made some incredible throws off balance.

he did this in multiple games. dude was legit great this year in just about every facet. my only concern is if he'll do it again and without brady. he certainly can, probably even likely. but that's the only real question i have with him.

conversely for tua, i don't have that concern. he's done it his whole career with multiple different coordinators. question for him is how long will that career be? and that's probably the bigger question between the two.

but a tua without the health concerns, i'd take him over anyone else. and yes, there is bias in that no doubt, but it's not a completely homer take either.

[Cincydawg]

I thought Tu'a was fantastic.  Without the injury, I'd take him first.  But I also think Burrow was exceptional, more than just scheme.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Jesus, what happend to Chris Mortenson?  Wow, still battling cancer - I'm glad he's well enought to be on air.  That's a great sign, right?

[MaximumSam]

Still annoyed this thing doesn't start until 8 pm.  It should start at 8 am and each pick should get half an hour.  

[Cincydawg]

With all this S going on, I might watch some too, and I'm not really interested.  I might glance at the list after the fact in the past.  I don't really thrive on the fake drama.

As I get older, I find less and less interests me ...