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Topic: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #126 on: April 17, 2020, 12:45:50 PM »
Even Gordon doesn't have the best reputation in the NFL, due to low career ypc numbers.



The Chargers OL has also been a shitshow basically the entire time he's been there.

Aside from the reports of Brady wanting to be close to NYC area where his family has moved to, I'd guess a big part of him picking Tampa over the Chargers was the OL situation. Tampa had the #7 OL unit in the NFL according to PFF's rankings. Chargers? 29th. Aside from that, I'd also argue that Tampa's WR weapons are more physically talented/gifted than the Chargers'. Mike Evans is superior athletically to either Keenan Allen or Mike Williams, and Chris Godwin is superior athletically to Keenan Allen for sure. And as far as TE's go- he doesn't have the insane production yet to match his insane talents, but you will not find a better athlete at TE in the entire league than OJ Howard. Simply doesn't exist.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #127 on: April 17, 2020, 12:51:22 PM »
If Taylor loses a point for having the Wisconsin OL, so should Swift.  UGA had what many consider the best OL in the country.
Agreed. Georgia has a tackle that might be a top 20 pick. Their other tackle might go in the 2nd round. Oh and they have a guard projected to go in the 3rd to 4th round. 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #128 on: April 17, 2020, 12:55:27 PM »
Tread life?
JT:  926 carries
DS: 440 carries
If so, seems stupid to me. I don't buy the notion that every RB has X amount of carries in them. Injuries are a part of football, and they are just flukish things that happen that no one can control. Some guys get lucky and never get seriously injured over a decades plus long careers (see Barry Sanders or Emmitt Smith) and some blow their knees up after only a few great years (see Gale Sayers or Terrell Davis). It's a crap shoot.

RB's that run for 2,000+ yards basically 3 years in a row and are a couple double cheeseburgers away from 230 pounds and run legitimate 4.38 in the 40 don't grow on trees. If you can take a guy that has production + size + speed - yeah you freaking take him.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #129 on: April 17, 2020, 12:56:46 PM »
yup, why a 3 down back is better

the defense can't be deceived into thinking it's 3rd down
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #130 on: April 17, 2020, 12:59:01 PM »
yup, why a 3 down back is better

the defense can't be deceived into thinking it's 3rd down
that is what made Marshall Faulk- arguably the greatest complete RB ever when you think about it. Not saying he was the greatest pure runner- but in terms of running, pass protection, and receiving all rolled into one package- I've never seen anyone close to him. He probably could've been a Pro Bowl WR had he switched positions.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #131 on: April 17, 2020, 01:07:40 PM »
The draft is in less than a week. Will it be one of the highest rated events in sports?

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #132 on: April 17, 2020, 01:09:44 PM »
that is what made Marshall Faulk- arguably the greatest complete RB ever when you think about it. Not saying he was the greatest pure runner- but in terms of running, pass protection, and receiving all rolled into one package- I've never seen anyone close to him. He probably could've been a Pro Bowl WR had he switched positions.
Faulk was a great one

Roger Craig wasn't bad, back in the day
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #133 on: April 17, 2020, 01:10:57 PM »
The draft is in less than a week. Will it be one of the highest rated events in sports?
if the weather sucks for golf. I'll be watching

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #134 on: April 17, 2020, 01:17:46 PM »
I don't think so

a 3 down back is valuable in NCAA and NFL
Hence my question.  Almost no one considers Swift to be the top CFB running back.  He's probably top five.  But almost everyone says he will be the first RB taken in the draft.  One theory is fewer carries, OK.  Another is he's more of a three down back.  Perhaps what "we" value in CFB is more pure running ability without giving credit to pass blocking and catching the ball etc. and the NFL does.

I remember Sony Michel who backed up Nick Chubb was drafted before Chubb (who went early second round).  I though Chubb the better back.  Others thought Michel better for the NFL.  

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #135 on: April 17, 2020, 01:24:18 PM »
I remember Sony Michel who backed up Nick Chubb was drafted before Chubb (who went early second round).  I though Chubb the better back.  Others thought Michel better for the NFL. 
How's that working out? Chubb has been a significantly better pro RB than Michel. And that's despite Michel playing on arguably the greatest NFL franchise in the modern era, and Chubb playing on arguably the worst.

Anybody with a brain could see Chubb was the better RB and football player imo.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #136 on: April 17, 2020, 01:34:44 PM »
and the guys that make those decisions fail miserably year after year while making millions
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #137 on: April 17, 2020, 01:37:01 PM »
I don't pay enough attention to the NFL to have an opinion.  I've seen Taylor described as the best back in UW history, or close to that.  Swift might make the top ten at UGA (probably).



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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #138 on: April 17, 2020, 01:37:11 PM »
Hence my question.  Almost no one considers Swift to be the top CFB running back.  He's probably top five.  But almost everyone says he will be the first RB taken in the draft.  One theory is fewer carries, OK.  Another is he's more of a three down back.  Perhaps what "we" value in CFB is more pure running ability without giving credit to pass blocking and catching the ball etc. and the NFL does.

I remember Sony Michel who backed up Nick Chubb was drafted before Chubb (who went early second round).  I though Chubb the better back.  Others thought Michel better for the NFL. 
College success and NFL potential are very different things.  If that's news, then there's the reason you have difficulty distinguishing between the two when rating college-only all-star type things.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #139 on: April 17, 2020, 01:38:40 PM »
They are very different things?  Huh.  I think they are pretty similar, but maybe not.  Most NFL stars were CFB stars, and most CFB stars are NFL stars, it seems to me, if injuries are eliminated.

 

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