2020 Recruiting Thread

[Cincydawg]

I saw an OL dude from Texas commit to A&M, then to UGA, now back to A&M.  He was 100% committed each time of course.

He may end up at Oklahoma or Colorado for real.

[ELA]

Make it 3 with LB Devin HIghtower, who, based on his offer list, looks more like a 4* FWIW.

3* WR Ricky White out of Georgia to close out before the dead period.

[847badgerfan]

Arizona LB Malik Reed commits to UW. Took official visits to UCLA, Nebraska and Arizona, in addition to UW.

https://247sports.com/Player/Malik-Reed-46055685/

Waiting on two more still.

Probably get one per day, I'm guessing.

[Mdot21]

Harbaugh on a recruiting hot streak right now. Wow.

Lands 247Composite 4*'s Safety Jordan Morant, WR AJ Henning, 4* RB Blake Corum, and 4* LB Kalel Mullings all in the last 48 hours? Wow.

I'd bet Morant and Henning make moves up the rankings, as well as in-state DE Braiden McGregor. 247 seems to love them some Morant. Henning looks like he's coming back from that nasty injury, his recent 100m times are ridiculous again. Like they were before his injury. If Henning has a big season- really think he could shoot towards 5* status. As for McGregor- seems like 247 and ESPN both love him- both have basically as a 5*. Rivals? 3* and the #30 OLB or something. Kinda odd ranking for a kid that will be playing DE and had offers from every school in the country. Have a feeling McGregor winds up a 5*.

I'd bet Corum and Mullings stay in that top 150-200 range they are in now. Corum is on the smallish side at under 5'9- he measured 5'8 and change and 184 pounds at one of those NIKE combine Opening things- but he also ripped off a laser timed 4.42 in the 40. I'll take a back with that sort of speed, yes please.

[847badgerfan]

Michigan commit = rating bump.. up


UW commits = rating bump.. down. 


Happened yesterday on a UW guy that made his commit last weekend. 4* now 3*.

[Mdot21]

Michigan commit = rating bump.. up


UW commits = rating bump.. down.


Happened yesterday on a UW guy that made his commit last weekend. 4* now 3*.

Hey now, I don't think that's fair!

Jordan Morant has seen his ranking sky rocket on 247- he's shot all the way up to the #47 player overall in the nation in their rankings. That was way before he ever committed to Michigan. 247 is usually the trend setter and the other sites catch up later. He's a big-time prospect with offers from everyone Alabama to Clemson to LSU and in between.

AJ Henning was on those way too early 5* watch lists. In the very first 247 rankings he was in the top 20 in the nation because of dominating frosh and soph seasons and ridiculous verified 100m track times in the 10.5's. He had a pretty bad hip injury that cost him virtually his entire jr year and he saw his rankings fall like a rock. He's got a great shot to sky rocket back up those rankings if he's healthy. He is as explosive and fast a play-maker as there is in the entire nation.

Braiden McGregor was ranked 26th overall by ESPN and 27th overall by 247 before he ever committed to Michigan. Rivals ridiculous ranking on him is killing his 247 composite ranking. I think Rivals is going to have to change that ranking eventually. I trust their rankings the least to be honest. I put stock in the composite the most obviously, but in terms of the sites- I put stock in 247's the most- honestly I put the least stock in Rivals now. ESPN's rankings are more legit than Rivals' now imo.

[847badgerfan]

Hey now, I don't think that's fair!

Jonathan Taylor = 3*



'nuff said.

[bayareabadger]

Michigan commit = rating bump.. up


UW commits = rating bump.. down.


Happened yesterday on a UW guy that made his commit last weekend. 4* now 3*.

Which LB was that?

[847badgerfan]

Turner. ESPN was the culprit. Rivals and 247 did not change their ratings on him (yet).

[ELA]

These aren't Consumer Reports, they are subscription driven businesses, and the helmet schools provide the most subscribers.  Thanks to Fox News/MSNBC culture, people don't want to hear anything than a validation of their own opinions, so to keep subscriptions up, they have to cater to those large subscriber bases.

A helmet offer used to mean something, and I had no problem with giving a boost there.  The issue now is that they have so many offers out, that you never know which ones are real, and you can't boost all of those kids.  MSU got an Ohio kid with an OSU "offer" already this cycle, but nobody thought that was commitable.

It's the post-commit boost, that is 100% subscriber pandering, that means very little to me.

[847badgerfan]

It's the post-commit boost, that is 100% subscriber pandering, that means very little to me.

I enjoy it when you point it out though. That's why I'm going to start doing it. Ha!

[Anonymous Coward]

I haven't seen a persuasive analysis to know whether post-commit helmet bumps are often/sometimes/rarely illegitimate. Such an analysis has to begin with outcomes for those players. And how they compare to the larger cohort (or other small cohorts, like non-helmet post-commits without bumps). 

For now this is nothing more than a subjective thing that feels fishy and even then no one is saying that it's guaranteed to be fishy every time. They're just saying "Sometimes it probably is; telling when is hard" and throwing their hands in the air in protest. I say make it quantitative because it can be or accept that the argument is only anecdotal and guessy.

[Anonymous Coward]

Also, even if "illegitimate helmet bump" is statistically significant (meaning it's real and of some mild or severe extent), it obviously isn't so rampant as to render recruiting rankings uncoupled (in correlation) to All-conference, All-american, and NFL draft status. Being correlated to those outcomes is the crown jewel of the industry. So, playing off that observation, perhaps "illegitimate helmet bump" really is serious and the recruiting services would have a better (maybe even godly) correlation if it weren't for this one bad industry habit. Or perhaps this is a clue that "illegitimate helmet bump" is closer to a figment than real (closer to mild than severe).

[FearlessF]

A helmet offer used to mean something, and I had no problem with giving a boost there.  The issue now is that they have so many offers out, that you never know which ones are real, and you can't boost all of those kids.  MSU got an Ohio kid with an OSU "offer" already this cycle, but nobody thought that was commitable.

It's the post-commit boost, that is 100% subscriber pandering, that means very little to me.

Perhaps the post-commit boost is the way to sort out the unreal and real offers?