2020 Recruiting Thread

[Cincydawg]

I would guess each coach might have either philosophy.  UGA has something of a tradition with good place kickers, so perhaps they are more apt to sign one in HS.

[ELA]

How have they turned out.

My sense is scholarship kickers aren't that much more successful than walk-ons, or at least, scholarships don’t seem to have that high a rate of turning into solid starters.

Agree.  I think they succeed/fail at the same rate as non-scholarship kickers.

[bayareabadger]

Agree.  I think they succeed/fail at the same rate as non-scholarship kickers.

I’m guessing it’s a better rate, but so much of a better rate. 

They also seem to have a high bust rate for guys that eat maybe one scholarship on the roster. Like college kicking is just different. 

[ELA]

3* DE Kyle King from Indiana committed to MSU out of the blue, over Purdue and Indiana.  Hadn't even heard the name, apparently just offered him this week.

Another 3* DE out of the blue this morning.  Jeff Pietrowski from Lakewood, OH.  Picked MSU over Pitt, Purdue and Minnesota.  Hadn't even heard the name until he committed.

Also added 3* ILB Cal Haladay from PA yesterday over UM, Nebraska and Pitt

[Cincydawg]

It would be interesting to see how many kickers are signed out of HS and which teams seem to do this and which rarely do this.

My memory is that UGA signs one every 2-3 years, punters not so much, if ever.

[bayareabadger]

It would be interesting to see how many kickers are signed out of HS and which teams seem to do this and which rarely do this.

My memory is that UGA signs one every 2-3 years, punters not so much, if ever.

After I mentioned it, I looked back and UGA and UW both seem to do that. UW occasionally adds a punter and recently a long snapper (double checking it can get weird). 

The downside side is when one busts, it’s just a deeply sunk cost. And you can get a Blankenship without the risk. 

[ELA]

Ugh, looks like MSU slow played QB Mike Alaimo, waiting on Chubba Purdy, and Alaimo committed to Purdue.

Purdy is higher rated, but honestly, I liked Alaimo better.  Really, really good get for Brohm

[ELA]

Out of HS? No.

Usually you bring in walk-on, they compete, once one is settled for a bit as a starter, scholarship.

Id forgotten UW had a scholarship guy. He was pretty good, but up and down. Not great last year, and maybe less of a rangy weapon than you’d hope.

This means MSU will have three KICKERS on scholarship in 2020.  Coghlin as the senior and primary kicker; Hahn as a junior kickoff specialist, and the incoming freshman, who will be redshirting.

That seems out of line with the norm.

[Cincydawg]

Does anyone know how schools play this scheme where they have 50+ offers out at a time?

They are contingent offers?  If they get their quota of LBs do they rescind other offers suddenly?

Do they get caught at times with more commits than they can accept under the limits?

Do they "bank" a couple openings to be safe?

[847badgerfan]

All schools have more offers out then they can accept commitments for. I know how it works in Madison.

There are elite offers, of course. Those you hold until it becomes clear they will not visit. After those, there are the true Plan A guys (some of which could be elite). You hold out for those until it becomes clear they will not commit.  The Plan B guys are normally first come/first served. You hope to not get to Plan C, but it happens.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Ugh, looks like MSU slow played QB Mike Alaimo, waiting on Chubba Purdy, and Alaimo committed to Purdue.

Purdy is higher rated, but honestly, I liked Alaimo better.  Really, really good get for Brohm

Looks like he's the highest-rated QB recruit for Purdue since Kyle Orton. 

[bayareabadger]

Does anyone know how schools play this scheme where they have 50+ offers out at a time?

They are contingent offers?  If they get their quota of LBs do they rescind other offers suddenly?

Do they get caught at times with more commits than they can accept under the limits?

Do they "bank" a couple openings to be safe?

It works like this, offers don’t have to be accepted. So to commit, you have to call the coach and say you will, and the coach in theory can say “we can’t take you at this time.” Sometimes they make something up like you have to do x, y, z as a senior.

Usually coaches show their disinterest simply by not calling. Kids they no longer want, they ignore. Some they keep on the back burner, some they go all the way after. I assume early you take guys you really want or think you can back out of, later, get a bit more selective.

Kids rarely make a fuss because it’s embarrassing to admit you have an offer that doesn’t mean much and in a sport where bending to authority is paramount, you look like someone who won’t go along.

I know some schools are on the picky side. Stanford has like 30 offers total, moving only when they lose a guy. Clemson is low now, but that’s because they can win most three stars they really like.

[betarhoalphadelta]

Could more decent commits for Purdue over the last few days.

3* Antonio Stevens listed as WR or DB depending on recruiting service, likely to play DB for Purdue. 

High 3* Collin Sullivan, WR with a solid offer list already and it's said both Texas and Oklahoma were showing interest.

[ELA]

Ugh, looks like MSU slow played QB Mike Alaimo, waiting on Chubba Purdy, and Alaimo committed to Purdue.

Purdy is higher rated, but honestly, I liked Alaimo better.  Really, really good get for Brohm

Well they had both kids on campus last weekend, and now Purdy moved up his commitment to tomorrow, so I guess they had a plan...hopefully...