2020 Recruiting Thread

[Cincydawg]

I think most of the commits end up signing, probably 85% or so, so I trust most will follow through, but a flip instantly raises questions.

[Mdot21]

I think most of the commits end up signing, probably 85% or so, so I trust most will follow through, but a flip instantly raises questions.

1 flip is generally OK. what you really have to watch out for the multi-flippers. there's been kids that commit to 5 different schools in the course of the crootin season. it's insane.

[Cincydawg]

UGA had one guy decommit, which is fine, and then recommit.  I suspect those who flip or decommit are more likely to flip again than those who commit and never waiver.

Anyway, they either sign or they don't, I can't control it obviously.

Every year some dudes widely predicted to sign with A end up with B, but many never committed in public.

I find it fascinating how much attention this gets.

[847badgerfan]

There are always going to be some flips. Generally, for my school, if a kids flips there it's from a smaller school after a late offer (diamond in the rough-type kid). Seems to happen once a year or so.

[847badgerfan]

And one of the big fish is now landed.

https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Article/Nick-Herbig-Four-Star-Linebacker-Commits-to-Wisconsin-Badgers-Football-Recruiting-132717017/


Nick Herbig:


The four-star linebacker chose UW over UCLA, Washington, Stanford, USC, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Nebraska, and more.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Nick-Herbig-113408/RecruitInterests/

[FearlessF]

nice steal from the PAC

[Cincydawg]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2019-nfl-draft-picks-high-school-recruiting-star-rankings-for-first-round-selections/

I may have posted this already, found it interesting.  Considering that the 3 star ranking includes a large number of players this isn't surprising.  The 5 stars are few in number, something like 30 per year.  The unranked is interesting of course.  So, like most things, there is some correlation that is far from perfect.  Are there 1 star rated players?  

2019 NFL Draft first round by recruiting rating 

• 5-stars: 8  
• 4-stars: 9 
• 3-stars: 11
• 2-stars: 1  
• Unranked: 3 

[FearlessF]

I'll take the 4 on the bottom

[bayareabadger]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2019-nfl-draft-picks-high-school-recruiting-star-rankings-for-first-round-selections/

I may have posted this already, found it interesting.  Considering that the 3 star ranking includes a large number of players this isn't surprising.  The 5 stars are few in number, something like 30 per year.  The unranked is interesting of course.  So, like most things, there is some correlation that is far from perfect.  Are there 1 star rated players? 

2019 NFL Draft first round by recruiting rating

• 5-stars: 8 
• 4-stars: 9
• 3-stars: 11
• 2-stars: 1 
• Unranked: 3

No one-stars. I believe the breakdown goes something like this.
Five-stars: 30 or so per class
Four-stars: 380
Three-stars: 1328
Two-stars: 1,859

So the top 11.4 percent or so of recruits accounts for 60.7 percent of first-round picks that were rated. Not much idea on the unrated because frankly almost none end up in the FBS. 

[bayareabadger]

I'll take the 4 on the bottom

This is a noble statement, but it got me thinking, who are those guys. 
They are
Duke QB Daniel Jones
Josh Allen, Kentucky
Tytus Howard, Alabama State
Marquise Brown, Oklahoma 

Jones' story is interesting. Private school kid in Charlotte, basically missed his whole post junior year recruiting cycle. Still surprised no on picked him up. Duke had to greyshirt him. Also might not be first-rounder good, but that's another matter.

Allen came in undersized, but also probably underrated. He'd been a receiver through his junior year, and not a fast one. He transferred his last year and was moved to defense, but still probably should've been rated better.

Howard gained 80 pounds in college after coming in as a tall, 230-pount TE. He was part of a 4-7 team that averaged 14.7 points a game, so he might well be a workout warrior.

Brown is sort of cheating. He came out of HS either at 130 or 140 pounds with enough grad issues he couldn't enroll at Utah State. He was a four-star out of JUCO.

So mostly these are small players, projects, whose bodies allowed them to become better (or they were simultaneously underrated but also overdrafted in the QB's case)

[FearlessF]

yup, except for the QB, you've got kids that worked hard to overcome shortcomings in HS and peaked as JRs and SRs in college.

I'd give them a good chance to succeed in the NFL.

It would also be interesting to correlate the rest of the NFL draft to HS recruiting stars, not round by round, but overall.  Round by round would also be good, but perhaps time consuming. 

[Briguy]

never trust any of 'em til they sign.

And so much for the notion that OSU's 'crootin would suffer without Urbs. Ryan Day has been killing it on the trail.

Offensively Day and staff have been doing very well. I wouldn’t say killing it. Defensive side they are sucking a$$. Not sure any of the new coaches he added has a commit yet. I don’t like it. Hopefully  the Def starts getting commitments 

[ELA]

4 star OT Grant Toutant flips from PSU to OSU

PSU also lost 4* CB Josh Moten this afternoon.  He's the third 4* recruit to decommit from Penn State this week.  Texas A&M looks like the favorite to land him now.

[847badgerfan]

De-commitments happen when coaches are high-pressure types. PJ Barnum is another one. I think he's lost 4 this year too.