2020 Recruiting Thread

[FearlessF]

So, what if I promised say $5000 every month to Recruit A to sign, and he signs, and I stop paying?

Recruit goes to you and/or the coach, says I need my $$$ or I'm blowing the whistle

takes everyone down

[Mdot21]

Cam Newton comes to mind
Reggie Bush???

Pretty sure Cam’s dad got paid for him to go to Auburn. 

As for Reggie, that was unrelated to him picking USC. Believe it was some drug dealer guy that knew Reggie was going to be a huge superstar and top 5 NFL draft pick, so he tried to pay for housing, cars, and give money to his family in order for him to be his first big time client. 

The only reason we ever found out about any of that is because Reggie reneged on the deal. Reggie signed with Drew Rosenhaus or one of those other big time hot shot sports agents or something like that and the dude who had been giving Reggie all that money asked for Reggie to repay him since he didn’t sign. 

Reggie was stupid enough to not only not sign with the guy but he stiffed the guy on paying him back for the house, cars, and cash so the guy leaked everything to the media. 

[FearlessF]

Cam gets to keep his trophy?

Reggie has to give his up?

weird

[ELA]

MSU gets a commitment from 4* S Darius Snow from Texas.  Had offers from Bama, Texas, UM, Georgia, ND, Oklahoma, etc...  Helps that his dad is former MSU basketball player Eric Snow.

Some think he'll grow into a linebacker, a la Denicos Allen

And right on cue, dropped 116 spots in the updated Rivals rankings.  Usually 247 is the most helmety, but whatever

[Mdot21]

And right on cue, dropped 116 spots in the updated Rivals rankings.  Usually 247 is the most helmety, but whatever

Rivals has been really bad for the last 3-4 years now. They used to be the standard. Now they are worse than ESPN. 

247 is owned by CBS and ESPN is owned by Disney. They’ll be around forever. Wouldn’t be surprised if Rivals folded sometime in the future though.

[Mdot21]

it’s a 2019 recruit, but apparently 5 STARZ ATH Bru McCoy from California signed with USC and early enrolled, then decided to transfer to his runner up during his recruitment Texas. He arrived at Texas for a couple months and then decided to transfer....back to USC.

I’ve never seen anything like that. Does he have to sit out for two years? Knowing the NCAA he’ll get a waiver to play right away bc he’ll claim someone at Texas yelled the N word about him out loud when he wasn’t around but he heard about the ordeal through the grape vine and now he feels unsafe at Texas. 

[ELA]

it’s a 2019 recruit, but apparently 5 STARZ ATH Bru McCoy from California signed with USC and early enrolled, then decided to transfer to his runner up during his recruitment Texas. He arrived at Texas for a couple months and then decided to transfer....back to USC.

I’ve never seen anything like that. Does he have to sit out for two years? Knowing the NCAA he’ll get a waiver to play right away bc he’ll claim someone at Texas yelled the N word about him out loud when he wasn’t around but he heard about the ordeal through the grape vine and now he feels unsafe at Texas. 

Yeah, I put that in the transfer portal thread a few days ago.  There's no way this system can keep going like this.  I'm not sure it's good for anybody.

[MaximumSam]

If the emotions of an 18 year old receiver could bring down the system, it wouldn't have gotten this far.

[ELA]

If the emotions of an 18 year old receiver could bring down the system, it wouldn't have gotten this far.

I mean the transfer portal system.  And I don't think it has gone very far.

[Cincydawg]

I wonder if "we" had a ratings system based solely on a recruits offers how close it would get to reality.  I know some legacy players might be outliers.

But if you see X with offers from Bama, Clemson, USC, Texas, Ohio State ...., it's a pretty good basis for rating him 4-5 *, without knowing anything else.

Then of course if he signs with say Michigan State, you drop him 126 places just because.

[847badgerfan]

Nah. Bama has 250 offers out. Michigan has 350. Nebraska has 400.

Not all offers are real offers.

[Cincydawg]

I do wonder how contingent some of these offers are in actuality.

There is no way they can be firm iron clad contractural offers.

[ELA]

Nah. Bama has 250 offers out. Michigan has 350. Nebraska has 400.

Not all offers are real offers.

Eh, better check if Johnny Majors and Jackie Sherrill are around

[Anonymous Coward]

I wonder if "we" had a ratings system based solely on a recruits offers how close it would get to reality.  I know some legacy players might be outliers.

But if you see X with offers from Bama, Clemson, USC, Texas, Ohio State ...., it's a pretty good basis for rating him 4-5 *, without knowing anything else.

Then of course if he signs with say Michigan State, you drop him 126 places just because.

I expect that's true. My bet is that "just judge the scholarship offers" is the #1 explanation for the recruiting services correlating with NCAA and Draft outcomes as tightly as they do.

Tthe population of true hired scouts at these scouting services seems low to me. Despite limited staff sizes, 247 and Rivals seem to have significantly more P.R. types to manage fan expectations than true scouts. I suspect there's nowhere near enough service scouting to rank these kids.

Whether a kid has no offer, a "contingent offer" or a truly unconditional offer is a sliding scale of valuable info -- and getting it, even parsing through lies that recruits might tell, doesn't take much sleuthing. That's way faster than scouting dozens of kids at a time per camp or viewing multi-game film on 5,000+ kids. And it's probably enough on its own to produce the reliable rankings we have. As you can tell, I'm skeptical of the notion these are coincidences.