2020 Recruiting Thread

[mcwterps1]

He hated his high school coach.

I wasn't good enough to play college soccer, but if I had, and my high school coach was now at a college, I would have gone anywhere but there.

But also, probably not that.  But maybe.

But he doesn't. 

They're a football factory. 

Talking about SC (little "u" for University).

This guy.... 

https://n.rivals.com/news/take-two-which-way-is-elite-2020-rb-marshawn-lloyd-leaning-

[FearlessF]

perhaps uSC is paying more

[Cincydawg]

I can see going to USCe.  You get exposure in the SEC.  You likely will start as a freshman and be The Man.  You have a shot at looking good, and probably think you will.  They have some modest history with running backs.  So, large fish in smallish pond with exposure, or perhaps go to a major program and compete for PT.

[847badgerfan]

I'm kinda amazed that UW can never seem to land an "elite" running back. But maybe I shouldn't be, with the zero payroll and all that.



This kid referenced above did not commit to THE USC. He committed to uSCe. Weird.

[Cincydawg]

I figure any top flight recruit basically wants to play on Sunday as soon as possible.  How best can you do that?

Going to a less heralded program in a major conference is a decent concept, I think.  Now, a QB probably would prefer to have an offensive line and some weapons, so perhaps it doesn't work so well for him.  A running back would like a more run oriented offensive style (and good line) and exposure with a good chance to start in year one.

He might have chosen the Dawgs and then sat a year, or had to play special teams, or simply not gotten many carries.  I would advice running backs not to go to UGA for that reason UNLESS they really really are top of the heap.

[847badgerfan]

I dunno. The current 3* UW tailback started as a true freshman. Coaches tend to play the best players. They want to (have to) win games.

[Cincydawg]

While the stars don't mean everything obviously, a 3 star is not often going to start as a freshman for a major program, it's just a fact.

A 4 star is not often going to start at running back aside from injuries or special circumstances.  A 5 star may ride the pine a while as well.

It just makes sense that walking into a program loaded with running backs is not going to generate much PT with very very rare exceptions.

[847badgerfan]

There has to be a solid reason the "elite" kids never look to Madison. The last 5* to commit was Ron Dayne, and he was rated as a fullback.

[mcwterps1]

I'm kinda amazed that UW can never seem to land an "elite" running back. But maybe I shouldn't be, with the zero payroll and all that.



This kid referenced above did not commit to THE USC. He committed to uSCe. Weird.

Yes. Out of the blue. Very weird.

Especially when the head coach of his HS is now the running backs coach at Maryland, and despite the speculation, is very well-liked and respected by the football players, so him abandoning his head coach over a weekend that quick is very odd.

Muschamp must be into that SEC "stuff".

[Mdot21]

There has to be a solid reason the "elite" kids never look to Madison. The last 5* to commit was Ron Dayne, and he was rated as a fullback.

Wisconsin has had an unbelievable run with RB's since the late 90s until now.

5* RB's aren't always what they're cracked out to be. Trust me. I've seen plenty at Michigan flop in the 2000's alone. 5* Justin Fargas was like THE top HS player in the country back in the day in '99 before the internet sites. He was a big deal, hot-shot recruit, as big as they come. Fargas was moved to free safety in 2000, was pissed about it then transferred back home to Cali to USC. Just a couple years later was 5* Kelly Baraka- freakish athlete, broke the state of Michigan 100m record that was set by Charles Rogers and Tyrone Wheatley. Got kicked out of school for pot before he ever did anything. 5* David Underwood was suppose to be the next big thing from Texas. Little 3* Mike Hart arrived just a year later and won that job as a true frosh and never looked back. 5* Kevin Grady came in the year after Mike Hart, was suppose to be the thunder to Hart's lightning. He never did jackshit. 5* Derrick Green was suppose to be the savior. Saved nothing. Busted out of the program in two years. 5* Ty Isaac transferred from USC to be closer to his mother who had a serious health issue. Isaac was a solid rotational back who had some nice moments, but he was a FAR cry from a 5* stud, impact type player that you'd have expected.

Tell ya what, I kinda wish Michigan had had some of those Wisconsin 3* backs.

[Mdot21]

Clemson seems to have something locked and loaded, they are in Alabama territory when it comes to reloading.

They have the #1 ranked class both overall and on average right now.

Clemson's class is absolutely ridiculous. It's only going to get better, as they lead for a bunch of other STARZ.

[Mdot21]

Five star receiver Julian Fleming commits to the bucks out of Pennsylvania

big-time pick up. gives OSU a big shot in the arm in the recruit rag rankings and in terms of buzz on the trail to help them lock up other top kids. Top players want to play with each other. The more of those you have in a class, the easier it is to get more.

I do have my doubts about just how good he is though. He's obviously very good. But he's rated as a top 5 player in the entire nation. And he "only" ran a laser timed 4.64 in the 40 at that Nike Opening combine thingy. He has good game speed on his HS tape but it's not blow you out of the water, top 5 player in the entire nation speed.

I don't know. All I'm saying- if a WR is gonna be ranked that high in HS- for me- he better damn well look and run like Julio Jones.

[Cincydawg]

It's easier to see the 5 stars that went bust than the ones who were as advertised, I think.  Plenty of them, RBs too, had excellent college and pro careers.

I still think a very good RB can do very very very well behind a great OL and scheme, versus a great RB behind a so-so OL (and scheme).  

A run oriented scheme can find itself ahead by say 14 points in the 3rd quarter and just run clock and build up yardage, wear down the defense, and make a back look good in the paper.

[Cincydawg]

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Zachary-Evans-top-five-Alabama-Georgia-LSU-Bijan-Robinson-Texas-132453172/

Some chat by recruiting so called experts about how this guy might be judging his options, including the rosters and who would be ahead of him, which makes sense.

He appears to be choosing between elite (recruitingwise) programs, nothing there second or third tier like USCe.