2020 Recruiting Thread

[betarhoalphadelta]

Single year metrics mean very little. Thankfully, SBN each year seems to put out a 5-year recruiting ranking. Sortable by 1-year recruiting, 2-year recruiting, and 5-year recruiting. 

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2018/2/8/16990550/college-football-recruiting-rankings-2018-class

What does it say? The teams at the top of the CFP every year are absolutely zero surprise....

[Anonymous Coward]

The problem is that as transfers increase, the ranking is inaccurate. OSU doesn't have a class of 17, it has a class of 19. I'm not saying one must use the original ranking for a recruit. That would be silly. Also silly - ignoring transfers as if they aren't recruited.

My point is that it doesn't make sense to notice this "problem" and fix years old recruiting rankings when you can just abandon them for the already-made ranking that already accounts for roster updates.

But if you're going to modify rankings, I figure you have to add Fields to OSU's 2018 class, not their 2019 class, as that was his year of HS graduation and better accounts for his cohort and remaining eligibility.

[Anonymous Coward]

Transfers are a separate thing and should not be factored into anything except for their possible impact on the team they join.

That's my take and what Blue-chip ratio does. Adds up all of a team's active scholarship players who are former 4- and 5-stars and divides by total scholarship players. By that, OSU's already includes Fields but excludes Martell, etc. Conveniently, it also excludes any players that left early for the NFL. 

I don't  notice anything to fix.

[MaximumSam]

That's my take and what Blue-chip ratio does. Adds up all of a team's active scholarship players who are former 4- and 5-stars and divides by total scholarship players. By that, OSU's already includes Fields but excludes Martell, etc. Conveniently, it also excludes any players that left early for the NFL.

I don't  notice anything to fix.

Well, any recruiting ranking that ignores large numbers of recruits is not worthlooking at.

[ELA]

Well, any recruiting ranking that ignores large numbers of recruits is not worthlooking at.

Who are you saying should be included here that isn't?  I think you're missing what this is

[Cincydawg]

I'd opine that looking at current rosters would make sense, does anyone out there compile that?

I see some data about number of 5 stars currently on a roster.  As noted, a team with a lot of 4s and 5s on the roster is likely to be top ten.

[Cincydawg]

Anyway, this thread isn't about that, so I diverted the topic.  I know some folks who follow this very closely, but I never have and likely never will.  A nice number is good of course, and getting a top level commit comes across my screen at times, fine with me.

[MaximumSam]

Who are you saying should be included here that isn't?  I think you're missing what this is

The last two Heisman trophy winners have been transfers that never appeared on any recruiting ranking for Oklahoma.  I think what I'm saying is being misunderstood.  I'm not saying there is a problem that should be fixed.  I'm saying recruitniks have mostly ignored transfers because they were relatively rare and hard to fit in.  However, that is changing, and sites are already grappling with how to incorporate them, and I was just starting discussion on how transfers should be judged compared to other recruits.  Because I am pretty sure that will be happening within the next few years.

[Anonymous Coward]

I'd opine that looking at current rosters would make sense, does anyone out there compile that?

I see some data about number of 5 stars currently on a roster.  As noted, a team with a lot of 4s and 5s on the roster is likely to be top ten.

Bud Elliott does that for each team each year when compiling and ranking their active "Blue chip ratios."

[MaximumSam]

3 star Ohio OT Trey Leroux commits to the Bucks

[FearlessF]

Is there a 2021 thread???

2021 quarterback Dematrius Davis Jr. of Houston. The North Shore signal-caller still has two years of high school ball to play, of course, but NU quarterbacks coach Mario Verduzco and head coach Scott Frost are ahead of the game recruiting quarterbacks. 

Davis was on hand to watch the Huskers practice Monday morning and made his way toward the football offices after the session wrapped up around 11 a.m. 

The Huskers have a 2020 verbal commitment from Logan Smothers (Athens, Alabama) already secured, so Verduzco spent December and January visiting him but also evaluating younger prospects. 

Davis earned plenty of notoriety at the end of his sophomore campaign by throwing a game-winning touchdown pass in the Class 6A state championship game at the last second to beat Duncanville. 

According to the Houston Chronicle, Davis, a 5-foot-11 dual-threat, threw for 3,550 yards (71.6 percent completions), 49 touchdowns and just two interceptions as a sophomore. Now, he sports a 23-1 career record as a starter. 

Davis is one of a handful of 2021 quarterbacks that already hold an offer from Verduzco and the Huskers. That group also includes Jake Garcia (Narbonne, California), Brock Vandagriff (Bogart, Georgia), Preston Stone (Dallas), Jalen Milroe (Katy, Texas) and Notre Dame verbal commit Tyler Buchner (La Jolla, California). 

Davis already has a host of high profile offers and tweeted recently that he's on a swing of spring visits that's already included Arkansas, LSU and Texas A&M and is also expected to include Alabama, Florida State and others. 

[FearlessF]

back on topic.................

Reece Atteberry, a 6-5, 280-pounder from Eagle Crest, Colorado, named Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan Notre Dame and Duke as his leaders currently. 

The Class of 2020 prospect is ranked a four-star by 247Sports and the 247Sports composite and a three-star by Rivals. 

He's not the only Colorado lineman the Huskers are after, either. The school reportedly hosted four-star Roger Rosengarten (Valor Christian) on an unofficial visit last week. 

Those two plus four-star Turner Corcoran (Lawrence, Kansas) are among the top priorities up front for NU in the 2020 class so far. 

[FearlessF]

Huskers new D-line coach is from Hawaii.................

In all, the 247Sports composite service lists 23 three-star Hawaii prospects for the 2020 class. That’s strong for a state with a population of 1,420,491.

For comparison, the state of Nebraska, with 1,929,268 persons living in the state, has five three-star 2020 prospects according to the 247Sports composite. West Virginia — population 1,853,011 — has four three-star 2020 prospects.

Better yet: Just one of those 23 Hawaii prospects has verbally committed. Among 2019 signees from Hawaii, six signed with Pac-12 schools (four of those were with Washington), and one each signed with Ohio State, Notre Dame, Central Florida and Navy. In 2018, it was more eclectic — three of the top 11 signed with Mendenhall at Virginia.

McKenzie and Gilman become the third and fourth 2020 prospects from Honolulu to be offered by Nebraska. The first two — offensive tackle Solatoa Moea’i and linebacker Jordan Botelho — also play at Punahou and St. Louis High Schools, respectively.

[ELA]

MSU gets a 2nd commit, 3* in state TE Tommy Guajardo over Indiana, Pitt and WVU