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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2021, 03:19:10 PM »
I think beyond population is:

1.  Quality of HS programs in the state, and
2.  Fervor for football in the state.

New York is not a hotbed for football recruits.  Georgia is, not only because of population, but because of enthusiasm for the sport which means money going into HS coffers which means better programs and training.  

I'd guess nearly every top Ohio HS player dreams of playing at OSU (some ND).  OSU is dominant for a reason.  I don't think Clemson has "staying power" because of these factors.

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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2021, 03:49:58 PM »
OSU's leg up is being the only 'name' program in a populous state.  I'll be radical and absurdist by suggesting they made sure that fact didn't change, over the years.
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2021, 08:16:49 AM »
2020 Census results: Georgia has packed on a million more people | Urbanize Atlanta

estimates show a 25-percent surge in City of Atlanta residents since 2010

It's unusual for a major city to grow this fast, this isn't the metro area, just the city.
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2021, 08:24:50 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 28, 2021, 08:16:49 AM
2020 Census results: Georgia has packed on a million more people | Urbanize Atlanta

estimates show a 25-percent surge in City of Atlanta residents since 2010

It's unusual for a major city to grow this fast, this isn't the metro area, just the city.
Did the physical size of the city change at all? In the south, I always wonder about annexing unincorporated territory
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2021, 09:46:54 AM »
I think they did annex a small portion around Emory U, but it wasn't significant, 6400 people apparently.  There are cranes all around me now putting up apartments and condos.  I keep thinking they are over building, but my realtor friends think not.

Atlanta City Council votes unanimously to annex Emory and CDC (ajc.com)
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2021, 10:27:38 AM »
In Atlanta's case, it may be that they've already grown out, now it's growing up.
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2021, 10:58:13 AM »
The growth in the city is a small fraction of the growth in the metro area outside the city.  The city is a bit over half a million, the metro is 5.6 million in addition.

We drove to DC and I noticed new subdivisions going up 45 miles NE of where we live and work to widen the freeway.

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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2021, 11:38:59 AM »
Right, but hasn't Atlanta grown out to it's loop and beyond it as well?  At some point, the Atlanta area ends and people are going to start paying crazy prices of high-rises.  
Maybe ATL is there.
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2021, 11:44:31 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 28, 2021, 11:38:59 AM
Right, but hasn't Atlanta grown out to it's loop and beyond it as well?  At some point, the Atlanta area ends and people are going to start paying crazy prices of high-rises. 
Maybe ATL is there.

The loop is about 12miles out, the metro area goes about 45 miles out.  The metro area grew well outside the loop in 1970.  We lived outside the loop in 1964, barely.

A two bedroom apartment near us goes for close to $3 K a month in the new buildings with the amenities.  Condos are around half a million, the newest ones start at $800 K and up for a 2 BDR.  Those are pretty upscale, but not near the park.

40 W 12th Street NW 901, Atlanta, GA, 30309 (40west12th.com)


40 West 12th Condos Selling from $800,000 | News & Blog



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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2021, 12:55:53 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 27, 2021, 03:19:10 PM
I think beyond population is:

1.  Quality of HS programs in the state, and
2.  Fervor for football in the state.

New York is not a hotbed for football recruits.  Georgia is, not only because of population, but because of enthusiasm for the sport which means money going into HS coffers which means better programs and training. 

I'd guess nearly every top Ohio HS player dreams of playing at OSU (some ND).  OSU is dominant for a reason.  I don't think Clemson has "staying power" because of these factors.


Living in a nearby state and knowing a few high school coaches, I find Georgia‘a investment in the sport to be ... a lot.

It’s not my money and I try not to get hot and bothered by anyone else’s choices, but it is pricey for some thing that is somewhat tangential to the educational mission.
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2021, 12:56:56 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 28, 2021, 09:46:54 AM
I think they did annex a small portion around Emory U, but it wasn't significant, 6400 people apparently.  There are cranes all around me now putting up apartments and condos.  I keep thinking they are over building, but my realtor friends think not.

Atlanta City Council votes unanimously to annex Emory and CDC (ajc.com)
Overbuilding in the sense of demand or infrastructure?
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2021, 12:57:31 PM »
it's not about education
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2021, 01:02:45 PM »
But it's under the guise of it, no?  Gotta keep that hyphenated term, 'student-athlete' in all official documents!
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Re: 2020 Census as relates to the B1G
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2021, 01:12:57 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 28, 2021, 12:57:31 PM
it's not about education
How do you mean?
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