2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

[medinabuckeye1]

The E8 will be:

• #1's, three B1G, WCC, B12
• #2, AAC
• #3, SEC
• #6, P12
• #11, P12
• #12, P12

The three lowest seeds are all from the Pac. Good for them. 

[medinabuckeye1]

The E8 will be:

• #1's, three B1G, WCC, B12
• #2, AAC
• #3, SEC
• #6, P12
• #11, P12
• #12, P12

The three lowest seeds are all from the Pac. Good for them.

How does this year's E8 compare to the average since expansion?

• 3 #2's, average is 2.77
• 1 #2, average is 1.83
• 1 #3, average us 1.03
• 0 #4's, average is 0.6
• 0 #5's, average is 0.26
• 1 #6's, average is 0.4
• 0 #7's, average is 0.29
• 0 #8's, average is 0.23
• 0 #9's, average is 0.11
• 0 #10's, average is 0.23
• 1 #11's, average is 0.23
• 1 #12's, average is 0.03

No #13's or below have ever made the E8.

There are a few more upsets than normal but the bigger difference is that the upsets have been by lower seeds than normal. #11 UCLA is the ninth #11 to ever make the E8 and #12 Oregon State is only the second #12 or below to ever make the E8.

[Brutus Buckeye]

[MarqHusker]

West Coast (flashes hand signals)!

[ELA]

Pac 10 and SWC showed up!

[utee94]

SWC!SWC!SWC!

[ELA]

I was in middle school for the first year of the Big XII.  I remember SWC football, but I have zero recollection of SWC basketball.  I remember those great Arkansas teams, but that was after they jumped ship

[utee94]

I was in middle school for the first year of the Big XII.  I remember SWC football, but I have zero recollection of SWC basketball.  I remember those great Arkansas teams, but that was after they jumped ship

The pigs had some very good teams in the SWC as well.  But overall the SWC wasn't much of a roundball conference, for men at least. Texas made some fun tourney runs around 89/90 with Tom Penders as the coach.  Lots of offense, zero defense.

[FearlessF]

Nolan Richardson and 40 minutes of hell

[utee94]

Nolan Richardson and 40 minutes of hell

I remember it all too well.  I really hated that guy.

[medinabuckeye1]

For as many upsets as we saw earlier in this tournament, the first two F4 spots were claimed by a #1 seed from the B12 and a #2 seed from the AAC.

Tonight we have #1 seeds from the B1G and WCC playing a #11 and a #6 from the Pac.

Since expansion the average F4 has consisted of roughly 2.5 #1 and #2 seeds and 1.5 #3 seeds and below. If both #1 seeds win tonight we'll have the highest seeded F4 since all four #1 seeds made it which has only happened once (2008).

#11 UCLA would be only the fifth #11 to ever make the F4 and no team seeded below #11 has ever done so.

#6 USC would be only the fourth #6 to ever make the F4.

[medinabuckeye1]

As an Ohio State guy it is difficult for me to root for Michigan but man does it look bad for the B1G if two #1's and two #2's result in zero F4 slots.

[medinabuckeye1]

The F4 is set and here is how it compares to all of the prior F4's since expansion:

• 2 #1's, average was 1.66
• 1 #2, average was 0.8
• 0 #3's, average was 0.49
• 0 #4's, average was 0.37
• 0 #5's, average was 0.2
• 0 #6's, average was 0.09
• 0 #7's, average was 0.09
• 0 #8's, average was 0.14
• 0 #9's, average was 0.03
• 0 #10's, average was 0.03
• 1 #11's, average was 0.11
• 0 #12's and below, no #12 or below has ever made the F4.

So we have more #1's and more #2's than average. That may seem surprising after we had more upsets than usual in the first two rounds but it actually makes sense. The early round upsets only took out one #1 (Illinois) and two #2's (tOSU and Iowa). What those early round upsets did for the other top seeds was to clear an easier path for them:

• #1 Gonzaga's path was 16-8-5-6. #2 Iowa and #3 Kansas lost in the second round while #4 UVA lost in the first round.
• #1 Baylor's path was 16-9-5-3. #2 tOSU and #4 PU both lost in the first round.
• #2 Houston's path was 15-10-11-12. #1 Illinois, #3 WVU, and #4 OkSU all lost in the second round. Thus, Houston's path was essentially this: https://youtu.be/j3CANELyPo0

[medinabuckeye1]

What this group should accomplish:

• 6.15 teams in the R32
• 3.91 teams in the S16
• 2.62 teams in the E8
• 1.36 teams in the F4
• 0.69 teams in the NC
• 0.39 National Champions

The Big Ten's big flop is now complete. We were well behind all throughout the tournament and now our four of the top eight seeds have all been eliminated. Ugly.